December 2007 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[arrl-odv:16277] We got elfed
by Andy Oppel 21 Dec '07

21 Dec '07

Holiday greetings from the Oppel family. http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=1635003427 Andy Oppel andy(a)andyoppel.com andy_oppel(a)alamedanet.net

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RE: NFCC
by K8JE 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

Joel, Useful information. Tnx. Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: <mailto:k8je@arrl.org> k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel.: 513-459-0142 ARRL - The Reason Amateur Radio Is! Members - The Reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: Joel Harrison [mailto:w5zn@arrl.org] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:54 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: NFCC Just a follow-up to my previous email about the NFCC's, if you are asked about this there is nothing wrong with you telling people that we have an existing MOU with the original group. That MOU is still in effect and who we recognize. That was the result of a Board action a few years ago. We have not been contacted by the new group calling themselves NFCC and don't know anything about them other than what has been printed in the announcement that is circulating. Steve Ford, who is the Repeater Directory contact at HQ, has received calls and emails from a few repeater coordinators and that is exactly what he has been telling everyone. The MOU identifies NFCC as a "District of Columbia non-profit corporation." If the NFCC with which we have the agreement is no longer incorporated in DC then there is a basis for confusion, but nonetheless I believe it is obvious who our MOU is with. 73 Joel W5ZN

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NFCC
by Joel Harrison 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

Just a follow-up to my previous email about the NFCC's, if you are asked about this there is nothing wrong with you telling people that we have an existing MOU with the original group. That MOU is still in effect and who we recognize. That was the result of a Board action a few years ago. We have not been contacted by the new group calling themselves NFCC and don't know anything about them other than what has been printed in the announcement that is circulating. Steve Ford, who is the Repeater Directory contact at HQ, has received calls and emails from a few repeater coordinators and that is exactly what he has been telling everyone. The MOU identifies NFCC as a "District of Columbia non-profit corporation." If the NFCC with which we have the agreement is no longer incorporated in DC then there is a basis for confusion, but nonetheless I believe it is obvious who our MOU is with. 73 Joel W5ZN

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[arrl-odv:16274] RE: [arrl-odv:16270] Bogus NFCC Has Appeared.
by Andy Oppel 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

Indeed - frequency coordination is one of those quagmires we need to avoid. -- Andy, N6AJO At 10:10 AM 12/20/2007, Joel Harrison wrote: > >I received info about this early yesterday. Apparently the "new" >group is claiming ARRL support in some circles. > >Just so there is no misunderstanding, ARRL does have an agreement in >place with the original NFCC, but you should clearly understand this >is brewing up to be a fight between two separate organizations that >are in no way directly connected to ARRL. > >We don't have a dog in whatever fight ensues, nor should we put our >dog in it. So be cautious if you are approached for comments on this >issue regarding ARRL support. It is NOT our fight. > >73 Joel W5ZN > > > > >---------- >From: dick(a)pobox.com [mailto:dick@pobox.com] >Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:20 PM >To: arrl-odv >Cc: w3kd(a)aol.com >Subject: [arrl-odv:16270] Bogus NFCC Has Appeared. > >19 DEC 2007 - 2115 CST > >Fellow Board Members... > >I just finished a phone conversation with the (real) NFCC Secretary and >Treasurer, and my long-time friend, Nels Harvey, WA9JOB. > >The group calling itself the National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc. >is not the amateur radio frequency coordination organization that >has an MOU with the ARRL. This bogus NFCC is the same group of >Texas hams that tried to usurp the Texas repeater frequency >coordination entity, the Texas VHF Society. > >After losing its District of Columbia not-for-profit incorporation in 2002, >the National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc. was again >incorporated in Nebraska as of the first week of this month. This >is the amateur radio frequency coordination organization that has >the MOU with the ARRL. After >some internal difficulties about three years ago, the (original) >NFCC is alive and well with a properly elected board of directors >and an updated website hosted by the ARRL >at: http://www.arrl.org/nfcc/index.htm > >On this website, you will find a brief bit of the NFCC's history, information >about the current NFCC officers, NFCC certified coordination entities, the >articles of incorporation, bylaws, and coordinator certification guidelines. > >I would not be surprised to see the real NFCC respond to the >December 18th announcement of this rogue organization in the near >future. There is already >a brief mention of this group on the NFCC website listed above. > >- Dick, W9GIG Andy Oppel andy(a)andyoppel.com andy_oppel(a)alamedanet.net

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RE: [arrl-odv:16270] Bogus NFCC Has Appeared.
by Joel Harrison 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

I received info about this early yesterday. Apparently the "new" group is claiming ARRL support in some circles. Just so there is no misunderstanding, ARRL does have an agreement in place with the original NFCC, but you should clearly understand this is brewing up to be a fight between two separate organizations that are in no way directly connected to ARRL. We don't have a dog in whatever fight ensues, nor should we put our dog in it. So be cautious if you are approached for comments on this issue regarding ARRL support. It is NOT our fight. 73 Joel W5ZN _____ From: dick(a)pobox.com [mailto:dick@pobox.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:20 PM To: arrl-odv Cc: w3kd(a)aol.com Subject: [arrl-odv:16270] Bogus NFCC Has Appeared. 19 DEC 2007 - 2115 CST Fellow Board Members... I just finished a phone conversation with the (real) NFCC Secretary and Treasurer, and my long-time friend, Nels Harvey, WA9JOB. The group calling itself the National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc. is not the amateur radio frequency coordination organization that has an MOU with the ARRL. This bogus NFCC is the same group of Texas hams that tried to usurp the Texas repeater frequency coordination entity, the Texas VHF Society. After losing its District of Columbia not-for-profit incorporation in 2002, the National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc. was again incorporated in Nebraska as of the first week of this month. This is the amateur radio frequency coordination organization that has the MOU with the ARRL. After some internal difficulties about three years ago, the (original) NFCC is alive and well with a properly elected board of directors and an updated website hosted by the ARRL at: http://www.arrl.org/nfcc/index.htm On this website, you will find a brief bit of the NFCC's history, information about the current NFCC officers, NFCC certified coordination entities, the articles of incorporation, bylaws, and coordinator certification guidelines. I would not be surprised to see the real NFCC respond to the December 18th announcement of this rogue organization in the near future. There is already a brief mention of this group on the NFCC website listed above. - Dick, W9GIG

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[arrl-odv:16272] Internet Project
by Kramer, Harold, WJ1B 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

FYI I sent this out to the full HQ staff this morning. Many folks here in the building were curious about what was going on so I thought that I would let them know directly rather than have the rumor mill ramp up further! I am hoping to have more comprehensive discussion of the Internet Project at January Board Meeting, either or both at the Committees or full Board. I have already discussed the preliminary phase of the project with both A & F and P& SC. If you have any additional questions at this time, please let me know. 73, Harold Harold Kramer, WJ1B Chief Operating Officer ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio 860 594 0220 hkramer(a)arrl.org <http://www.arrl.org/> ________________________________ From: Kramer, Harold, WJ1B Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:59 AM To: HQ Staff Subject: Fathom Meeting Hi, You may have noticed the meeting that we had in the Conference room Tuesday morning and the group of visitors that I walked around the building. This meeting was with Fathom, a Hartford firm, that will be helping us re-architect, redesign and update our web site. Here is the URL for their website: http://www.fathom.net/ If you would like to see a portfolio of their work, I have a couple of copies in my office. See me and I will lend you one to look at. Some of you may be familiar with their work since they just rebuilt the Connecticare Site that we have used for our insurance coverage. http://www.connecticare.com/default.aspx Fathom will be working with Jon's group and many others in the building and outside the building over the next few months to develop a long range strategy and plan for redoing the web site. The A & F Committee of our Board has already approved the funding for this phase of the project. We have a very large, content rich, and heavily used web site. We believe that it has over 30,000 pages of content. Our Web site receives nearly 100 million page views a year. It has become the principal way that our members interact with us. We believe that this project will result in a new and improved Web site where our members can find what they need, interact with us quickly and efficiently. Because of the size and complexity of our web site, and the fact that we need to maintain our current web site during the process, we envision that this effort may take two or three years to complete. By the way, we have already seen the positive impact of redesigning parts of our Web site. The Web-Seibel Integration Team has updated our membership pages and credit card processing system this year and the results have been outstanding. We still hope to achieve full Web-Seibel integration for membership in a few weeks. After the membership pages are fully integrated, our internal team will begin working on a new ARRL web store. Thanks to all of you who have participated in these efforts. 73, Harold Harold Kramer, WJ1B Chief Operating Officer ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio 225 Main Street Newington, CT 06111 Telephone: 860 594 0220 email: hkramer(a)arrl.org web: www.arrl.org/ <http://www.arrl.org/>

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[arrl-odv:16271] Re: Bogus NFCC Has Appeared.
by Tom Frenaye 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

At 10:19 PM 12/19/2007, dick(a)pobox.com wrote: >The group calling itself the National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc. is not the amateur radio frequency coordination organization that has an MOU with the ARRL. This bogus NFCC is the same group of Texas hams that tried to usurp the Texas repeater frequency coordination entity, the Texas VHF Society. A couple of them (N5UN, N5IUF) also filed election complaints with ARRL against NTx SM N5GAR earlier this year. So be very cautious here... -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[arrl-odv:16270] Bogus NFCC Has Appeared.
by dick＠pobox.com 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

19 DEC 2007 - 2115 CST Fellow Board Members... I just finished a phone conversation with the (real) NFCC Secretary and Treasurer, and my long-time friend, Nels Harvey, WA9JOB. The group calling itself the National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc. is not the amateur radio frequency coordination organization that has an MOU with the ARRL. This bogus NFCC is the same group of Texas hams that tried to usurp the Texas repeater frequency coordination entity, the Texas VHF Society. After losing its District of Columbia not-for-profit incorporation in 2002, the National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc. was again incorporated in Nebraska as of the first week of this month. This is the amateur radio frequency coordination organization that has the MOU with the ARRL. After some internal difficulties about three years ago, the (original) NFCC is alive and well with a properly elected board of directors and an updated website hosted by the ARRL at: http://www.arrl.org/nfcc/index.htm On this website, you will find a brief bit of the NFCC's history, information about the current NFCC officers, NFCC certified coordination entities, the articles of incorporation, bylaws, and coordinator certification guidelines. I would not be surprised to see the real NFCC respond to the December 18th announcement of this rogue organization in the near future. There is already a brief mention of this group on the NFCC website listed above. - Dick, W9GIG

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[arrl-odv:16269] Re: FW: Important announcement from National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc.
by Andy Oppel 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

Interesting spelling of "Columbia" ("Colombia" would be the correct Spanish language spelling of a country in South America). Otherwise, it looks very official. -- Andy Oppel, N6AJO At 03:04 PM 12/19/2007, K8JE wrote: >I'll show my ignorance. Is the resurrection of the NFCC good, bad >or indifferent? > >Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director >ARRL Great Lakes Division >5065 Bethany Rd. >Mason, OH 45040 >E-mail: <mailto:k8je@arrl.org>k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel.: 513-459-0142 >ARRL - The Reason Amateur Radio Is! >Members - The Reason ARRL Is! > >-----Original Message----- >From: NFCC info [mailto:nfccinfo@gmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:33 AM >To: NFCCinfo(a)gmail.com >Subject: Important announcement from National Frequency Coordinators >Council, Inc. > >An important letter is attached to this email in .pdf format. It >contains an important announcement from the National Frequency >Coordinators Council, Inc (NFCC). > >Happy Holidays, > >National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc. Andy Oppel andy(a)andyoppel.com andy_oppel(a)alamedanet.net

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RE: [arrl-odv:16266] FW: Important announcement from National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc.
by John Bellows 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

I dont know but I thought NFCC was the National Frequency Coordination Council not the National Frequency Coordinators Council. W9GIG was formerly involved and he should be able to shed some light on this. Jay. KØQB -----Original Message----- From: K8JE [mailto:K8JE@arrl.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:05 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:16266] FW: Important announcement from National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc. Ill show my ignorance. Is the resurrection of the NFCC good, bad or indifferent? Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: <mailto:k8je@arrl.org> k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel.: 513-459-0142 ARRL - The Reason Amateur Radio Is! Members - The Reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: NFCC info [mailto:nfccinfo@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:33 AM To: NFCCinfo(a)gmail.com Subject: Important announcement from National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc. An important letter is attached to this email in .pdf format. It contains an important announcement from the National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc (NFCC). Happy Holidays, National Frequency Coordinators Council, Inc.

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