October 2004 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:11427] Re: Chilling!
by John Bellows 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

I read that sentence to place the obligation on the unlicensed BPL providers not to create interference with licensed services. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Wade Walstrom [mailto:walstrom@mchsi.com] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:34 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11425] Chilling! Recall earlier I expressed concern about BPL susceptibility to interference from licensed users and that the FCC had addressed this issue. They did today! This sentence was in the second paragraph of the FCC press release. "The rule changes in the Order establish specific technical and administrative requirements for Access BPL equipment and operators to ensure that interference does not occur and, should it occur, to provide for a timely resolution of that harmful interference without disruption of service to Access BPL subscribers." This is the most chilling sentence for Amateur Radio of all that were released. 73, Wade W0EJ

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[ARRL-ODV:11426] FW: UTC Industry Intelligence - October 14, 2004
by Tom Frenaye 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

The arrl-odv reflector bounced this one several times, so the text is an attachment. Looks like the BPL folks are happy with the FCC result. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:11425] Chilling!
by Wade Walstrom 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Recall earlier I expressed concern about BPL susceptibility to interference from licensed users and that the FCC had addressed this issue. They did today! This sentence was in the second paragraph of the FCC press release. "The rule changes in the Order establish specific technical and administrative requirements for Access BPL equipment and operators to ensure that interference does not occur and, should it occur, to provide for a timely resolution of that harmful interference without disruption of service to Access BPL subscribers." This is the most chilling sentence for Amateur Radio of all that were released. 73, Wade W0EJ

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[ARRL-ODV:11424] Re: From a Regional Source...
by Tom Frenaye 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

At 08:30 PM 10/14/2004, you wrote: >Alan admits he wasn't paying close attention. My speculation is that he may have heard the "Broadband Revolution" remark and misinterpreted it. But I have several inquiries into the Kerry campaign via various channels to get clarification. The news editor I spoke to at KVBC Channel 3 said it was a prepared speech, that he believes the text on the Kerry web site is what was delivered. They have the video from a couple of news stories about the event on their web site, but no video of the full speech. http://www.kvbc.com/ Even so, perhaps the extra attention Dave is giving to it may find some "in" to get our concerns on the table. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:11423] Re: From a Regional Source...
by Jim K8JE 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Art, I have absolutely no intention of defending Mr. Kerry, but just having a phone line does not make DSL or even dial-up readily and economically available. I suspect rural Indiana and Ohio are no different from most of the other states, although a bit better off than some people in the hills and broad plains. DSL most likely is not available to what truly is rural America -- too far from the switch. Dial-up is available, but many rural areas can use it only with long distance calls. Wireless, ad we know it, forever! Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: Art Goddard [mailto:w6xd@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:30 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11412] From a Regional Source... John Kerry is live on Las Vegas CH 3 making a speech to the AARP convention being held here. He just said he supports BPL as a means of getting the internet to rural areas so kids can have a better education and wants to push its installation and use. Why do they need BPL? If they have a phone line they can use dial-up or DSL. But the point is he wants to push BPL. This is not meant to be a political statement, I am just relaying what I have just heard with my own ears off my T.V. concerning his stand on BPL. I normally watch the CH 3 News at Noon program but today it was pre-empted for Kerry's speech. FYI FWIW. Please no Flames, remember, its not nice to kill the messenger. 73

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[ARRL-ODV:11422] Re: FCC"s BPL news release and statements
by Jim K8JE 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Chris, John, Zach, Does not the fact the Commissioners acknowledge the potential of interference to legally operated radio systems (in at least the BPL range of transmission) provide another argument to use with Representative Upton in seeking his/Congresses intervention in the BPL issue? Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: W3KD(a)aol.com [mailto:W3KD@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:28 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11409] Re: FCC"s BPL news release and statements In a message dated 10/14/2004 2:43:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, walstrom(a)mchsi.com writes: It does not appear the Powell recused himself. They all gave the interference issue lip service, but only one gave any indication of taking that issue seriously. (sigh!) Wade, Powell didn't recuse himself because the FCC General Counsel recommended that he didn't have to. The issue isn't over. I got a fax late yesterday (after the courts were closed) of a letter from the General Counsel, Rogovin, who said that there was an applicable exception to the ex parte prohibition during the sunshine period. I just sent the attached memo to Dave Sumner on this subject. Forgive me, it is long and somewhat ponderous. I didn't have time to shorten it. We plan to tell Rogovin that he is wrong, that we have been irreparably harmed, and that the Commission should vacate the Report and Order as the result of its taint. The basic point is that the exception doesn't apply to this situation, and even if it did, FCC didn't comply with the very specific disclosure requirements where the exception does apply. Please keep all this confidential for now, OK? 73, Chris W3KD

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[ARRL-ODV:11421] Re: Relayed Without Further Comment
by dick＠pobox.com 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Delivered-To: dick(a)pobox.com Received: from icicle (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by icicle.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DEF11B7D9 for <dick(a)pobox.com.42727661.001.icgmh>; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 22:17:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Pobox-Pass: kermit(a)arr.com is whitelisted Received: from arr.com (unknown [66.151.21.34]) by icicle.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4908211B7A7 for <dick(a)pobox.com>; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 22:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Laptop1 [192.168.2.116] by arr.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.14) id A1A026C028E; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:17:04 -0500 From: "Kermit Carlson" <kermit(a)arr.com> To: <dick(a)pobox.com> Subject: RE: ARRL Asks FCC Chairman To Withdraw From BPL Vote Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:16:53 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c4b193$df880a00$7402a8c0@Laptop1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C4B169.F6B20200" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal 13 October 2004 Dear Mr Isely; Thank you and the ARRL leadership for leading the fight for unpolluted radio spectrum. I especially appreciate your efforts since it is apparent that FCC Chairman Powell is involved with blatant influence peddling, a fact which will certainly cast a doubt on the reasoning behind his decisions as a Commissioner. The real proof of this is his most recent role as Lead Cheerleader in the BroadBand (over) Power Line (BPL) issue. BPL is a marginal technology that has the potential to compromise the access by all licensed users to all of the High Frequency radio spectrum, not just the Amateur Radio Operators you represent. He is willing to sacrifice all of this radio spectrum on the basis of false promises by upstart BPL equipment manufacturers who are promising inexpensive Internet access for the masses over power lines. He persists in this role despite solid proof , based on the laws of Physics, that BPL causes serious interference to the use of the High Frequency radio spectrum for all radio communications users as a by-product of it's intended normal use. It is indeed unfortunate that we find an appointed steward of our communications laws blatantly disregarding his appointed charge; that of affording protection to his Commission's licensees. Thank You Kermit Carlson 1150 Mc Kee St Batavia, Illinois 60510

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[ARRL-ODV:11420] Re: From a Regional Source...
by dick＠pobox.com 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

14 OCT, 2004 - 1930 CDT Thank you Tom for quickly digging up the text of John Kerry's speech to the AARP today. I did a very quick read of text of Kerry's speech and I did not see the term BPL used. The only reference to (Internet) broadband I could find is: "We will offer tax credits to help us seize the possibilities of the Broadband Revolution and make Internet access available to all of America's families." But maybe I read too fast. - Dick, W9GIG

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[ARRL-ODV:11419] Re: From a Regional Source...
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Alan admits he wasn't paying close attention. My speculation is that he may have heard the "Broadband Revolution" remark and misinterpreted it. But I have several inquiries into the Kerry campaign via various channels to get clarification. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Frenaye, Tom (Dir, NE) Sent: Fri 10/15/2004 12:30 AM To: arrl-odv Cc: Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11418] Re: From a Regional Source... At 06:01 PM 10/14/2004, K1ZZ wrote: >There is no mention of BPL in the speech he gave to the AARP. It may have been an unscripted remark. I've asked K7ACZ what the context was. Here's the official text... http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/spc_2004_1014.html -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:11418] Re: From a Regional Source...
by Tom Frenaye 14 Oct '04

14 Oct '04

At 06:01 PM 10/14/2004, K1ZZ wrote: >There is no mention of BPL in the speech he gave to the AARP. It may have been an unscripted remark. I've asked K7ACZ what the context was. Here's the official text... http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/spc_2004_1014.html -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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