October 2004 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:11437] Re: The news cycle
by Art Goddard 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Right, then... EGBOK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ" <dsumner(a)arrl.org> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:31 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11433] The news cycle > One last thought before heading to the airport. Given the way the news cycle works, BPL stories are likely to be popping up in the press today. Lots of members are going to see them and send them in. Then there will be a rash of stories in weeklies, then in monthlies. All of these stories will be based on less than what we know right now, which is that neither we nor the BPL industry had our prayers answered by the FCC. So let's not get too worked up about the press coverage, and by means let's spike any talk of this being the death of amateur radio as we know it. It certainly isn't, although it wouldn't be hard to turn that into a self-fulfilling prophecy. > > Five years from now, amateur radio is still going to be here. I wouldn't make that bet on behalf of most of the BPL companies. > > Dave K1ZZ >

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[ARRL-ODV:11436] Hams Remember Children
by Hobart, Mary K1MMH 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Good morning. This message comes from PR Manager Alan Pitts on a terrific project for the coming holiday season. This message will be going out to section managers today. 73, Mary K1MMH Hams Remember Children We need your help. Over the past weeks, we have all heard of the devastation in central Florida. Many hams actually heard it first hand through volunteer service or on the HF nets. While many areas of the country were affected to differing degrees, Florida was the worst. Thousands of families are without a place to live and will be homeless over the coming Holiday Season. For a child suddenly living out of a tent, or car, or someone else's home, the 2004 holiday season will be anything but jolly. But hams are coming to their rescue in a new way. Your role as a leader can make a major difference! Over the next weeks we will be making a major effort in a national toy drive. This is both a true aid to the children affected by the disaster and also a great public relations opportunity for hams across the country. Your support in this endeavor will be most appreciated. Between now and Thanksgiving, hams across the country are being asked to purchase a new child's toy and send it with a QSL card or 3x5 showing their callsign to: Ham Radio The United Way White Dove Project 50 Kindred Street - Suite 207 Stuart, FL 34994 "The storms and their aftermath have been especially traumatic for children. In addition to the frightening experience of going through the hurricanes, youngsters are coping with a great deal of stress felt within their families and at school," writes Carol Hodnett, a Director at the United Way site, who will be handling the distribution end of the program. "Because of the overall strain on our state, we have been looking outside the area for help in supporting the White Doves Holiday Project this year. We are so incredibly thankful to you and the American Radio Relay League for thinking of the children of our area in planning your toy drive." The Martin County United Way in Stuart still has the facilities to manage a large toy drive. They have agreed to serve as the collection point and also coordinate distribution to the surrounding counties whose agencies are no longer capable of managing such a project. "Just let me know what you need," offered Steve Blary, N1XC, the ARES Emergency Coordinator for Stuart County, Florida. "This is a great idea and we're ready to help at this end." Unwrapped toys for boys and girls of ages 1 to 14 will be gathered and shipped by amateur radio operators to the Stuart facility between now and Thanksgiving for distribution over the holidays. Non-hams are also encouraged to join in this effort to provide for the thousands of children suddenly homeless due to the series of hurricanes. Those wishing to donate money instead of toys can send a check to: White Dove, c/o United Way of Martin County 50 Kindred Street, Suite 207, Stuart, FL 34994 Recent figures from FEMA and the Red Cross showed over 22,000 homes destroyed and over 40,000 severely damaged. Whole families who once had their own home or apartment are now living wherever they can, in vehicles, or tents, or sharing undamaged homes or shelters. It is not simply a shortage of affordable housing; it is a lack of ANY housing. We are asking all hams to make the coming Holiday Season a little bit brighter for a child by participating in this toy drive. Purchase a new toy and ship it to the Ham Radio/United Way-White Dove address. Maybe it's not a new home to live in, but knowing that someone "out there" remembers you is a start for these children. What kind of toy? The homeless children come in all ages, but we suggest thinking of age 1 to 14, both boys and girls. Should I wrap it? No, just put it in the box unwrapped. Why the QSL card? The cards will be collected and sent to the ARRL headquarters to track results. Can my non-ham friends join in? SURE! And if you give them your QSL cards to put in the boxes, your area will get the credit for their generosity. Can't I just give to something here locally? Of course you can. We're not saying "don't give" to any other place or cause. We are simply offering this option for hams to both show the world that we remember the victims in disasters after the headlines are gone, and doing something good for children in real need. I know our club can get more people involved than their club.... Club and area and section challenges are encouraged. We'll use the QSL cards as a way to track results. Can I just give money? Money is always good. Checks should be made payable to: White Doves, c/o United Way of Martin County 50 Kindred Street, Suite 207, Stuart, FL 34994 Just how bad is it really? The following numbers are from FEMA and the Red Cross County Destroyed homes - Major damage to Home - Displaced People Charlotte 5013 12006 24235 Escambia 5224 9385 23006 Desoto 3644 2671 13445 Brevard 2607 2498 9254 Polk 2064 2520 8310 St. Lucie 840 2538 5273 Palm Beach 366 1451 2510 Indian River 1830 1759 6232 Volusia 332 1124 2056 Orange 82 325 636 Santa Rosa 938 3026 6446 Lee 331 654 1513 Osceola 158 652 1355 Martin 301 1473 2283 Hardee 367 1052 2768 You can help make the coming Holiday Season a little bit brighter for a child. Maybe it's not a new home to live in, but knowing that someone "out there" remembers you is a start for these children. Buy a toy (or three!) and send them with your QSL card today. Thank you for your support and consideration. Allen G. Pitts, W1AGP Media and Public Relations Manager ARRL (860) 594-0200 x328

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[ARRL-ODV:11435] Re: Re: Chilling!
by W5JBP＠aol.com 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

...provide for a timely resolution of that harmful interference without disruption of service to Access BPL subscribers." I see this as telling the provider to move the frequency to another area of the spectrum. It will be interesting how they will do this. As far as I know, they have had problems in doing this. Jim Haynie

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[ARRL-ODV:11434] Re: Chilling!
by Frank Fallon - N2FF 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Wade, I read that same section a slightly different way, but of course we have yet to see the report and order which should make it clearer, hopefully. What I took it to mean, and I am not happy about that, is that they are NOT going to shut the system down when we complained and then fix the problem. It appears that they are codifying their present enforcement mode of letting the business guys do all they want. I sure hope they are not going to require us to shut down if we cause interference to BPL, which we will. Until we see the report and order it will all be speculation and could remain so with a poorly written report. Frank.....N2FF...... Wade Walstrom wrote: >Recall earlier I expressed concern about BPL susceptibility to >interference from licensed users and that the FCC had addressed this >issue. They did today! This sentence was in the second paragraph of >the FCC press release. > >"The rule changes in the Order establish specific technical and >administrative requirements for Access BPL equipment and operators to >ensure that interference does not occur and, should it occur, to provide >for a timely resolution of that harmful interference without disruption >of service to Access BPL subscribers." > >This is the most chilling sentence for Amateur Radio of all that were >released. > >73, > >Wade W0EJ > > > > > > >

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[ARRL-ODV:11433] The news cycle
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

One last thought before heading to the airport. Given the way the news cycle works, BPL stories are likely to be popping up in the press today. Lots of members are going to see them and send them in. Then there will be a rash of stories in weeklies, then in monthlies. All of these stories will be based on less than what we know right now, which is that neither we nor the BPL industry had our prayers answered by the FCC. So let's not get too worked up about the press coverage, and by means let's spike any talk of this being the death of amateur radio as we know it. It certainly isn't, although it wouldn't be hard to turn that into a self-fulfilling prophecy. Five years from now, amateur radio is still going to be here. I wouldn't make that bet on behalf of most of the BPL companies. Dave K1ZZ

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[ARRL-ODV:11432] Re: FW: UTC Industry Intelligence - October 14, 2004
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Haven't read the attachment yet (have to get to the airport for the EC meeting) but I doubt that the design engineers are all that pleased, nor will the higher-ups be happy when they see what it's going to cost and how long it's going to take to come up with compliant devices. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Frenaye, Tom (Dir, NE) Sent: Fri 10/15/2004 4:54 AM To: arrl-odv Cc: Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11426] FW: UTC Industry Intelligence - October 14, 2004 The arrl-odv reflector bounced this one several times, so the text is an attachment. Looks like the BPL folks are happy with the FCC result. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:11431] Re: Chilling!
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

And, I should add (sorry for missing it the first time -- early here, no coffee yet) I'm sure the reference to harmful interference is to interference from BPL, not to BPL. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Sent: Fri 10/15/2004 11:00 AM To: arrl-odv Cc: Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11429] Re: Chilling! We'll have to see what the actual rules say, but they can't legally alter the obligation of the unlicensed device operator not to cause harmful interference. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Bellows, John (Dir, Dakota) Sent: Fri 10/15/2004 6:47 AM To: arrl-odv Cc: Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11427] Re: Chilling! I read that sentence to place the obligation on the unlicensed BPL providers not to create interference with licensed services. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Wade Walstrom [mailto:walstrom@mchsi.com] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:34 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11425] Chilling! Recall earlier I expressed concern about BPL susceptibility to interference from licensed users and that the FCC had addressed this issue. They did today! This sentence was in the second paragraph of the FCC press release. "The rule changes in the Order establish specific technical and administrative requirements for Access BPL equipment and operators to ensure that interference does not occur and, should it occur, to provide for a timely resolution of that harmful interference without disruption of service to Access BPL subscribers." This is the most chilling sentence for Amateur Radio of all that were released. 73, Wade W0EJ

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[ARRL-ODV:11430] Re: From a Regional Source...
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

After looking at everything available, including Mr. Bush's speech in Las Vegas made at about the same time just to make sure Alan didn't get the candidates mixed up, I'm pretty confident he simply misheard the "Broadband Revolution" reference. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Frenaye, Tom (Dir, NE) Sent: Fri 10/15/2004 3:21 AM To: arrl-odv Cc: Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11424] Re: From a Regional Source... At 08:30 PM 10/14/2004, you wrote: >Alan admits he wasn't paying close attention. My speculation is that he may have heard the "Broadband Revolution" remark and misinterpreted it. But I have several inquiries into the Kerry campaign via various channels to get clarification. The news editor I spoke to at KVBC Channel 3 said it was a prepared speech, that he believes the text on the Kerry web site is what was delivered. They have the video from a couple of news stories about the event on their web site, but no video of the full speech. http://www.kvbc.com/ Even so, perhaps the extra attention Dave is giving to it may find some "in" to get our concerns on the table. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:11429] Re: Chilling!
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

We'll have to see what the actual rules say, but they can't legally alter the obligation of the unlicensed device operator not to cause harmful interference. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Bellows, John (Dir, Dakota) Sent: Fri 10/15/2004 6:47 AM To: arrl-odv Cc: Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11427] Re: Chilling! I read that sentence to place the obligation on the unlicensed BPL providers not to create interference with licensed services. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Wade Walstrom [mailto:walstrom@mchsi.com] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:34 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11425] Chilling! Recall earlier I expressed concern about BPL susceptibility to interference from licensed users and that the FCC had addressed this issue. They did today! This sentence was in the second paragraph of the FCC press release. "The rule changes in the Order establish specific technical and administrative requirements for Access BPL equipment and operators to ensure that interference does not occur and, should it occur, to provide for a timely resolution of that harmful interference without disruption of service to Access BPL subscribers." This is the most chilling sentence for Amateur Radio of all that were released. 73, Wade W0EJ

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[ARRL-ODV:11428] Re: From a Regional Source...
by Art Goddard 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Actually it's a voting nadir situation ----- Original Message ----- From: <W3KD(a)aol.com> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:53 PM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11417] Re: From a Regional Source... > In a message dated 10/14/2004 5:51:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, > walstrom(a)mchsi.com writes: > > > > > > This does, however, confirm my concern that November 2 is a lose-lose > > situation > > for Amatuer Radio. > > > > > > So are we all voting for Nader? > JUST KIDDING! > Chris >

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