[arrl-odv:22410] Fwd: ARRL Board Meeting Minutes
It still seems to me that the vote is moot, since the minutes have already been published (see attached message). For the record, I approve. 73, Greg, K0GW ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ARRL Web site <memberlist@www.arrl.org> Date: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:18 AM Subject: ARRL Board Meeting Minutes To: gpwidin1@gmail.com Dear ARRL Member: You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to "ARRL Board meeting agendas and minutes" on your ARRL Profile. To unsubscribe, go to "Edit Your Profile," "Edit Email Subscriptions," uncheck the appropriate box, and "Save" the change. David Sumner, K1ZZ Secretary, ARRL To unsubscribe from messages, go to: http://p1k.arrl.org/oo/c8cf25fcf1f6540545569de970e317f5
Greg, I am following the procedure established by the Board. In the past the minutes were published in QST long before they were formally approved by the Board, which did not occur until the subsequent meeting. Dave From: Widin, Gregory, K0GW On Behalf Of G Widin Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:03 PM To: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; arrl-odv Subject: Fwd: ARRL Board Meeting Minutes It still seems to me that the vote is moot, since the minutes have already been published (see attached message). For the record, I approve. 73, Greg, K0GW ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ARRL Web site <memberlist@www.arrl.org<mailto:memberlist@www.arrl.org>> Date: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:18 AM Subject: ARRL Board Meeting Minutes To: gpwidin1@gmail.com<mailto:gpwidin1@gmail.com> Dear ARRL Member: You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to "ARRL Board meeting agendas and minutes" on your ARRL Profile. To unsubscribe, go to "Edit Your Profile," "Edit Email Subscriptions," uncheck the appropriate box, and "Save" the change. David Sumner, K1ZZ Secretary, ARRL To unsubscribe from messages, go to: http://p1k.arrl.org/oo/c8cf25fcf1f6540545569de970e317f5
Greg raises a good point. We should be prompt in publishing the minutes, but it should be after we formally approve the minutes, not before. If we think that the minutes should be published before the existing timetable for approval can be completed, then we should consider shortening the approval timeline. Cliff K0CA On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:03 AM, G Widin <gpwidin@comcast.net> wrote:
It still seems to me that the vote is moot, since the minutes have already been published (see attached message). For the record, I approve. 73, Greg, K0GW
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Cliff, in the past the minutes were always published long before they were formally approved by the Board. In July 2011 the Board adopted the procedure that was described in my earlier message soliciting approval. It was deliberately worded so as to not introduce any new delay in the distribution of the minutes to members. The minutes have been available to members on the website since January 23. See http://www.arrl.org/news/kay-craigie-n3kn-wins-third-term-as-arrl-president The distribution I just did today was in accordance with Standing Order 10-1.57: 10-1.57) Both agendas and minutes for ARRL Board and Executive Committee meetings will be posted on the ARRL web site, and members who wish to be sent copies by e-mail can request them via a selection on the ARRL Member Data Page. This distribution was delayed by my trip to Puerto Rico. Normally it's done somewhat earlier. In short, I think it would be a step backwards to delay distribution of the minutes until after formal Board approval. Dave From: Ahrens, Cliff, K0CA Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 1:13 PM To: G Widin Cc: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; arrl-odv Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:22410] Fwd: ARRL Board Meeting Minutes Greg raises a good point. We should be prompt in publishing the minutes, but it should be after we formally approve the minutes, not before. If we think that the minutes should be published before the existing timetable for approval can be completed, then we should consider shortening the approval timeline. Cliff K0CA On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:03 AM, G Widin <gpwidin@comcast.net<mailto:gpwidin@comcast.net>> wrote: It still seems to me that the vote is moot, since the minutes have already been published (see attached message). For the record, I approve. 73, Greg, K0GW ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ARRL Web site <memberlist@www.arrl.org<mailto:memberlist@www.arrl.org>> Date: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:18 AM Subject: ARRL Board Meeting Minutes To: gpwidin1@gmail.com<mailto:gpwidin1@gmail.com> Dear ARRL Member: You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to "ARRL Board meeting agendas and minutes" on your ARRL Profile. To unsubscribe, go to "Edit Your Profile," "Edit Email Subscriptions," uncheck the appropriate box, and "Save" the change. David Sumner, K1ZZ Secretary, ARRL To unsubscribe from messages, go to: http://p1k.arrl.org/oo/c8cf25fcf1f6540545569de970e317f5 _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> http://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
As I mentioned, I don't think we should introduce any delay in publishing the minutes. I'm in total agreement with promptly publishing the minutes. But the news release you cite includes a link to the "Official Minutes." Maybe we should expedite our approval process so that they can be truly considered "official" while at the same time insuring that the board has approved them as accurately reflecting the actions of the board. Cliff K0CA On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ <dsumner@arrl.org>wrote:
Cliff, in the past the minutes were always published long before they were formally approved by the Board. In July 2011 the Board adopted the procedure that was described in my earlier message soliciting approval. It was deliberately worded so as to not introduce any new delay in the distribution of the minutes to members.
The minutes have been available to members on the website since January 23. See http://www.arrl.org/news/kay-craigie-n3kn-wins-third-term-as-arrl-president
The distribution I just did today was in accordance with Standing Order 10-1.57:
10-1.57) Both agendas and minutes for ARRL Board and Executive Committee meetings will be posted on the ARRL web site, and members who wish to be sent copies by e-mail can request them via a selection on the ARRL Member Data Page.
This distribution was delayed by my trip to Puerto Rico. Normally it's done somewhat earlier.
In short, I think it would be a step backwards to delay distribution of the minutes until after formal Board approval.
Dave
*From:* Ahrens, Cliff, K0CA *Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 1:13 PM *To:* G Widin *Cc:* Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; arrl-odv *Subject:* Re: [arrl-odv:22410] Fwd: ARRL Board Meeting Minutes
Greg raises a good point. We should be prompt in publishing the minutes, but it should be after we formally approve the minutes, not before. If we think that the minutes should be published before the existing timetable for approval can be completed, then we should consider shortening the approval timeline.
Cliff K0CA
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:03 AM, G Widin <gpwidin@comcast.net> wrote:
It still seems to me that the vote is moot, since the minutes have already been published (see attached message). For the record, I approve. 73,
Greg, K0GW
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I wouldn't have chosen the word "official." To that extent I agree with you, Cliff. Dave From: Ahrens, Cliff, K0CA Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 1:55 PM To: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Cc: G Widin; arrl-odv Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:22410] Fwd: ARRL Board Meeting Minutes As I mentioned, I don't think we should introduce any delay in publishing the minutes. I'm in total agreement with promptly publishing the minutes. But the news release you cite includes a link to the "Official Minutes." Maybe we should expedite our approval process so that they can be truly considered "official" while at the same time insuring that the board has approved them as accurately reflecting the actions of the board. Cliff K0CA On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ <dsumner@arrl.org<mailto:dsumner@arrl.org>> wrote: Cliff, in the past the minutes were always published long before they were formally approved by the Board. In July 2011 the Board adopted the procedure that was described in my earlier message soliciting approval. It was deliberately worded so as to not introduce any new delay in the distribution of the minutes to members. The minutes have been available to members on the website since January 23. See http://www.arrl.org/news/kay-craigie-n3kn-wins-third-term-as-arrl-president The distribution I just did today was in accordance with Standing Order 10-1.57: 10-1.57) Both agendas and minutes for ARRL Board and Executive Committee meetings will be posted on the ARRL web site, and members who wish to be sent copies by e-mail can request them via a selection on the ARRL Member Data Page. This distribution was delayed by my trip to Puerto Rico. Normally it's done somewhat earlier. In short, I think it would be a step backwards to delay distribution of the minutes until after formal Board approval. Dave From: Ahrens, Cliff, K0CA Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 1:13 PM To: G Widin Cc: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; arrl-odv Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:22410] Fwd: ARRL Board Meeting Minutes Greg raises a good point. We should be prompt in publishing the minutes, but it should be after we formally approve the minutes, not before. If we think that the minutes should be published before the existing timetable for approval can be completed, then we should consider shortening the approval timeline. Cliff K0CA On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:03 AM, G Widin <gpwidin@comcast.net<mailto:gpwidin@comcast.net>> wrote: It still seems to me that the vote is moot, since the minutes have already been published (see attached message). For the record, I approve. 73, Greg, K0GW ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ARRL Web site <memberlist@www.arrl.org<mailto:memberlist@www.arrl.org>> Date: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:18 AM Subject: ARRL Board Meeting Minutes To: gpwidin1@gmail.com<mailto:gpwidin1@gmail.com> Dear ARRL Member: You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to "ARRL Board meeting agendas and minutes" on your ARRL Profile. To unsubscribe, go to "Edit Your Profile," "Edit Email Subscriptions," uncheck the appropriate box, and "Save" the change. David Sumner, K1ZZ Secretary, ARRL To unsubscribe from messages, go to: http://p1k.arrl.org/oo/c8cf25fcf1f6540545569de970e317f5 _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> http://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
Just label the published ones "Draft". Once approved, that label can be removed on the Web site version. Marty N6VI From: arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:02 AM To: Ahrens, Cliff, K0CA Cc: G Widin; arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:22417] Re: Fwd: ARRL Board Meeting Minutes I wouldn't have chosen the word "official." To that extent I agree with you, Cliff. Dave From: Ahrens, Cliff, K0CA Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 1:55 PM To: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Cc: G Widin; arrl-odv Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:22410] Fwd: ARRL Board Meeting Minutes As I mentioned, I don't think we should introduce any delay in publishing the minutes. I'm in total agreement with promptly publishing the minutes. But the news release you cite includes a link to the "Official Minutes." Maybe we should expedite our approval process so that they can be truly considered "official" while at the same time insuring that the board has approved them as accurately reflecting the actions of the board. Cliff K0CA
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