October 2010 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[arrl-odv:19424] Re: New Division Information Page -PSE Review
by G.P. Widin 14 Oct '10

14 Oct '10

Harold, It's good that the page has been updated. A major factor on many current ARRL web pages is that the actions from those pages are "below the fold"--far enough down the page that they don't show up unless you scroll down. In many of these cases, there is also no visual cue that the page continues below the current view. Thus, many people never even know that there is other information or links available. The Division-new URL is an example. After the text, there is a list of the Divisions--but that list currently shows up only if I scroll down. I strongly recommend putting those two lines of Division links at the TOP of the page. If someone thinks it's still important to have it where it is, these lines could even be repeated where they are right now. But I think it is critical to get those lines up where people can take advantage of them. As implied above, I think it would be helpful to review all current site pages, and if the point of a page is mostly the next level of links, then moving the links to the top should be considered strongly. -- 73, Greg, KØGW Director, Dakota Division ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Kramer, WJ1B" <wj1b(a)arrl.org> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Cc: "Katie Glass, KB1ULQ" <kglass(a)arrl.org> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 8:37:41 AM Subject: [arrl-odv:19422] New Division Information Page -PSE Review Hi, Here is a link to the new Division information page that we have put together. This page is for “public” view. We changed the page based on feedback from members. Its presentation has been modified from the current page to let the user find the information easier and faster. Please review it and let Katie Glass know if there any corrections or revisions. http://www.arrl.org/divisions-new This page will replace the current page located here: http://www.arrl.org/divisions We plan to make the new page live Friday morning Also, if you have not added your picture to your profile, we would appreciate it if you do so. We have most of your photos here so we can add them for you but you would have to contact Katie. If you want to do it yourself, and need a copy of your official Board picture, I can email you a copy. 73, Harold Harold Kramer, WJ1B Chief Operating Officer ARRL -the national association for Amateur Radio 225 Main Street Newington, CT 06111 (860) 594 -0220

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RE: W4TV's measurments
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 14 Oct '10

14 Oct '10

You're quite right, Dwayne. It's fortunate that it comes out this way because it would be quite a mess otherwise. The Netherlands Antilles have been two separate DXCC entities by reason of distance separation since 1955. The two parts are in different continents, so CQ would count them separately anyway. Dave From: Dwayne Allen [mailto:dwayne@wy7fd.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:02 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: W4TV's measurments Folks, I am no lawyer (thankfully) but the following was copied from the DXCC rules. 2. Geographic Separation Entity b) Island Areas (Separation by Water): ii) The island is separated from its Parent by 350 kilometers or more, and from any other island attached to that Parent in the same or a different island group by 800 kilometers or more. I see no instructions on the method of measurement to be employed in determining the distance between the islands or island group. If the greater circle method was used in determining the correct distance between Saba and Bonaire, then the distance is 801 KM. This is clearly a case of nit-picking. Also if one employs the scientific significant figures rules, 799.609 will round to 800 anyway. If I am wrong, please correct me... I am used to it. . My two cents worth. 73, WY7FD, Dwayne Allen Vice-Director ARRL Rocky Mountain Division

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[arrl-odv:19422] New Division Information Page -PSE Review
by Kramer, Harold, WJ1B 14 Oct '10

14 Oct '10

Hi, Here is a link to the new Division information page that we have put together. This page is for "public" view. We changed the page based on feedback from members. Its presentation has been modified from the current page to let the user find the information easier and faster. Please review it and let Katie Glass know if there any corrections or revisions. http://www.arrl.org/divisions-new This page will replace the current page located here: http://www.arrl.org/divisions We plan to make the new page live Friday morning Also, if you have not added your picture to your profile, we would appreciate it if you do so. We have most of your photos here so we can add them for you but you would have to contact Katie. If you want to do it yourself, and need a copy of your official Board picture, I can email you a copy. 73, Harold Harold Kramer, WJ1B Chief Operating Officer ARRL -the national association for Amateur Radio 225 Main Street Newington, CT 06111 (860) 594 -0220

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[arrl-odv:19421] RE: PJs and DXCC
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 14 Oct '10

14 Oct '10

The answers to Jim's questions are: 1. This was an administrative matter handled by the DXCC Desk. 2. The ADIF country numbers are generated by the DXCC system and will be available on the Awards blog, http://www.arrl.org/awards-blog soon -- perhaps as early as later today, Dave From: James F. Boehner MD [mailto:jboehner01@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:59 PM To: arrl-odv Cc: arrl-odv Subject: PJs and DXCC Dave, If someone asks, was this the final decision of the DXCC desk, the DXAC, or both? Just want to make sure I'm accurate in my statement. Second, does the DXCC Desk generate ADIF country numbers? If so, have they been assigned yet? Lots of fun on the bands! '73 de JIM N2ZZ ARRL Vice Director Roanoke Division ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio(tm) From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:38 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [Bulk] [arrl-odv:19409] PJs and DXCC Shortly there will be an announcement that the dissolution of the Netherlands Antilles has resulted, in addition to the deletion of the two Netherlands Antilles entities announced earlier, in four new DXCC entities effective 0400 UTC 10 October 2010: (1) Curacao, (2) St. Maarten, (3) Saba & St. Eustatius, and (4) Bonaire. The announcement will not include the following additional background, which may be useful to you if you're asked. Curacao and St. Maarten are added by virtue of their appearance on the U.S. Department of State list of "Dependencies and Areas of Special Sovereignty" http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm <http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm> as Political Entities under Section II, Rule 1.c) of the DXCC Rules. The two other new entities, Saba & St. Eustatius and Bonaire, are added as Geographic Separation Entities under Section II, Rule 2.b)ii) of the DXCC Rules. While some have questioned whether the distance between Bonaire and the northern islands is 800 km, multiple tests of the distance using a WGS84-equipped calculator and other calculators and charts show the required minimum separation of 800km. Prior to the appearance of the revised State Department list there was some uncertainty as to whether Bonaire, Saba, and St. Eustatius also would be added to the list, each with its own local administrative center. Had that occurred there would have been five new entities rather than four. Confirmations for these new entities will be accepted for DXCC credit beginning 1 January 2011. 73, Dave Sumner, K1ZZ

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Gail Iannone's husband
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 14 Oct '10

14 Oct '10

Most if not all of you have some contact with Gail Iannone of the HQ staff. I am saddened to have to report that Gail's husband Tony died this morning after a brief illness. Dave Sumner

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[arrl-odv:19419] Re: RE: W4TV
by Gary Johnston KI4LA 14 Oct '10

14 Oct '10

Geez Louise, we're only talking about a 1,298.88' difference. So shouldn't we also be asking whether measured at high or low tide? I'm not a super serious DX guy, but isn't it to everyone's advantage to have more declared countries? Why not have a committee rule to round up, or average the two measurements? Gary Sent from Gary's iPhone 4. On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:55 PM, "Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ" <dsumner(a)arrl.org> wrote: > Dave, Joe's earlier comments on this subject were the reason for my backgrounder earlier today. > > Dave K1ZZ > > > From: David A. Norris [mailto:k5uz@suddenlink.net] > Sent: Thu 10/14/2010 1:46 AM > To: arrl-odv > Subject: [arrl-odv:19410] W4TV > > Would anyone care to check Joe’s math??? > > > > 73 ES DX > > > > David A. Norris, K5UZ > > Vice Director, Delta Div. > > > > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > > > I call your attention to this release by the "DXCC Desk" today and urge you to become immediately involved to stop this blatant > > disregard of the DXCC rules. Under the current rules, Bonaire > > can not qualify as a separate "geographic separation entity" because the separation between Saba and Bonaire is less than the required 800 km when calculated using WGS84 (more accurate than a simple spherical earth or "great circle method" calculation). > > > > Specifically when calculated using these endpoints > > > > For Saba ..... 17 36 56.63 N 63 15 06.12 W > > For Bonaire .. 12 13 15.90 N 68 11 49.53 W > > > > The WGS84 calculation shows 799.609 km (496.854 mi) > > The great circle method shows 801.088 km (497.773 mi) > > > > See http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/distance.html for both calculations. > > > > In any case, the disagreement between calculation methods is sufficient to exclude Bonaire from the DXCC list as it does not *unambiguously* meet the qualifications as a "geographic separation entity." > > > > Please, enforce a respect for the DXCC rules as most recently modified. "Overlooking" inconvenient facts will inevitably place the DXCC program on the path to another "Baldwin's Reef" as political considerations and personal preferences take precedence over the rules. Your failure to put a stop to this blatant disregard for the rules can represent a serious threat to the integrity of the program. > > > > 73, > > > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > > >

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PJs and DXCC
by James F. Boehner MD 14 Oct '10

14 Oct '10

Dave, If someone asks, was this the final decision of the DXCC desk, the DXAC, or both? Just want to make sure I'm accurate in my statement. Second, does the DXCC Desk generate ADIF country numbers? If so, have they been assigned yet? Lots of fun on the bands! '73 de JIM N2ZZ ARRL Vice Director Roanoke Division ARRL, the national association for Amateur RadioT From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:38 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [Bulk] [arrl-odv:19409] PJs and DXCC Shortly there will be an announcement that the dissolution of the Netherlands Antilles has resulted, in addition to the deletion of the two Netherlands Antilles entities announced earlier, in four new DXCC entities effective 0400 UTC 10 October 2010: (1) Curacao, (2) St. Maarten, (3) Saba & St. Eustatius, and (4) Bonaire. The announcement will not include the following additional background, which may be useful to you if you're asked. Curacao and St. Maarten are added by virtue of their appearance on the U.S. Department of State list of "Dependencies and Areas of Special Sovereignty" <http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm> http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm as Political Entities under Section II, Rule 1.c) of the DXCC Rules. The two other new entities, Saba & St. Eustatius and Bonaire, are added as Geographic Separation Entities under Section II, Rule 2.b)ii) of the DXCC Rules. While some have questioned whether the distance between Bonaire and the northern islands is 800 km, multiple tests of the distance using a WGS84-equipped calculator and other calculators and charts show the required minimum separation of 800km. Prior to the appearance of the revised State Department list there was some uncertainty as to whether Bonaire, Saba, and St. Eustatius also would be added to the list, each with its own local administrative center. Had that occurred there would have been five new entities rather than four. Confirmations for these new entities will be accepted for DXCC credit beginning 1 January 2011. 73, Dave Sumner, K1ZZ

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W4TV's measurments
by Dwayne Allen 14 Oct '10

14 Oct '10

Folks, I am no lawyer (thankfully) but the following was copied from the DXCC rules. 2. Geographic Separation Entity b) Island Areas (Separation by Water): ii) The island is separated from its Parent by 350 kilometers or more, and from any other island attached to that Parent in the same or a different island group by 800 kilometers or more. I see no instructions on the method of measurement to be employed in determining the distance between the islands or island group. If the greater circle method was used in determining the correct distance between Saba and Bonaire, then the distance is 801 KM. This is clearly a case of nit-picking. Also if one employs the scientific significant figures rules, 799.609 will round to 800 anyway. If I am wrong, please correct me. I am used to it. . My two cents worth. 73, WY7FD, Dwayne Allen Vice-Director ARRL Rocky Mountain Division

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[arrl-odv:19416] R2 YS photo
by Bruce Frahm 14 Oct '10

14 Oct '10

I don't know the ins and outs of Facebook so am not sure if the link below will work if you don't have a Facebook account. Anyway it's a group photo of the IARU R2 gang at the resort/convention in El Salvador http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=448371405911&set=a.446319005911.2… Buena Suerte Bruce K0BJ

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RE: [arrl-odv:19409] PJs and DXCC
by Jim Weaver K8JE 14 Oct '10

14 Oct '10

OK, OK. I think there are several of us who could use a good laugh or two tonight. You just gave me one! Tnx. 73, Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040; Tel. 513-459-1661 ARRL, The national organization for Amateur Radio _____ From: David A. Norris [mailto:k5uz@suddenlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:45 PM To: arrl-odv Cc: 'arrl-odv' Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:19409] PJs and DXCC Jim, Greg, Dave, I realize that, I was just being sarcastic! I was in dire need of a laugh today! 73 David A. Norris, K5UZ Vice Director, Delta Div. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Weaver K8JE [mailto:K8JE@ARRL.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:06 PM To: 'David A. Norris' Cc: 'arrl-odv' Subject: FW: [arrl-odv:19409] PJs and DXCC Dave, I've not attempted to recheck Joe's math'; however, his question was addressed in Dave Sumner's message, below. Note par. 3. Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040; Tel. 513-459-1661 ARRL, The national organization for Amateur Radio _____ From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:38 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:19409] PJs and DXCC Shortly there will be an announcement that the dissolution of the Netherlands Antilles has resulted, in addition to the deletion of the two Netherlands Antilles entities announced earlier, in four new DXCC entities effective 0400 UTC 10 October 2010: (1) Curacao, (2) St. Maarten, (3) Saba & St. Eustatius, and (4) Bonaire. The announcement will not include the following additional background, which may be useful to you if you're asked. Curacao and St. Maarten are added by virtue of their appearance on the U.S. Department of State list of "Dependencies and Areas of Special Sovereignty" <http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm> http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/10543.htm as Political Entities under Section II, Rule 1.c) of the DXCC Rules. The two other new entities, Saba & St. Eustatius and Bonaire, are added as Geographic Separation Entities under Section II, Rule 2.b)ii) of the DXCC Rules. While some have questioned whether the distance between Bonaire and the northern islands is 800 km, multiple tests of the distance using a WGS84-equipped calculator and other calculators and charts show the required minimum separation of 800km. Prior to the appearance of the revised State Department list there was some uncertainty as to whether Bonaire, Saba, and St. Eustatius also would be added to the list, each with its own local administrative center. Had that occurred there would have been five new entities rather than four. Confirmations for these new entities will be accepted for DXCC credit beginning 1 January 2011. 73, Dave Sumner, K1ZZ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3193 - Release Date: 10/13/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3195 - Release Date: 10/13/10 14:34:00

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