April 2007 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

RE: Re RM11306 RM15416
by John Bellows 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

Joel: Thanks for the follow up information. That is good news. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Joel Harrison [mailto:w5zn@arrl.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 6:14 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: RE: Re RM11306 RM15416 Jay, One of the things the EC made very clear to me, Dave and Chris (and we heard it 59 ++++) was that if we withdraw our petition we must have a plan to proceed that includes very clear and positive news stories about what we are doing, and why throughout the rest of this process. A write-up is in the works right now, and it will be sent to the board first for review before publication. It will be posted just prior to any filing to withdraw the petition. 73 Joel W5ZN _____ From: John Bellows [mailto:jbellows@skypoint.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:04 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: Re RM11306 RM15416 This is a follow up to my ODV of Friday April 13th. (see attachment) I am now convinced that if we still believe in the substance of our Regulation by Bandwidth Proposal the appropriate action is to follow the EC recommendation and withdraw the petition at his time. (RM11306) I continue to believe that Regulation by Bandwidth Proposal is preferable to Regulation by Mode. We shouldnt underestimate the challenge of crafting a proposal that will overcome the natural inclination of Amateurs to stay with a regulatory system, however cumbersome, that we are accustomed to. We shouldnt underestimate the inevitable opposition that will arise from some due to misunderstanding, mistrust or dislike of ARRL. I agree with much of what Jim Weaver says in ODV 15436, but I think our challenge is even greater than asking folks to just buy a product.. If we are to succeed we will need to carefully craft the revised petition, anticipate the opposition and be ready to respond with simple clear statements and facts that are easily communicated. Unfortunately it is becoming a sound bite world. We will need to have both the supporting information and the sound bites. If we do withdraw the Petition I hope we will be ready with a clear and positive statement as to what we are doing and why we are taking this action. Jay, KØQB

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[arrl-odv:15448] Senater Version of HR462
by Joel Harrison 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

For several weeks now we have been seeking a sponsor in the U.S. Senate to introduce a Senate version of HR462 that Mike Ross introduced several weeks ago in the House of Representatives. Senator Mark Pryor was lined up to introduce the bill into the Senate around March 1, but then got cold feet for some unknown reason. Last Friday and over the weekend John Chwat and I cranked up the heat in the Senator's home state and today we were advised he is planning to introduce the bill this week. More as this develops. 73 Joel W5ZN

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RE: [arrl-odv:15445] Re:!st Quarter Financial Reports
by Jim Weaver 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Dick, I echo your comments concerning the rather glowing quarterly financial report. However, may I have the temerity to suggest that real growth in membership will come only after we, the Board and Management, learn how to become successful in selling our intellectual products to the FCC, our current members and potential members? No, I am not Joe Btfsplk of L'il Abner fame, but I'm afraid ARRL may have been taking on this persona gradually over the past many years because of our repeated failures caused by our own failure to plan adequately. Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel.: 513-459-0142 ARRL - The Reason Amateur Radio Is! Members - The Reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: dick(a)pobox.com [mailto:dick@pobox.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 7:02 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:15445] Re:!st Quarter Financial Reports 17 APR 2007 - 1755 CDT With all the financial stormy weather we have endured for virtually all of my tenure on the board, Barry's first quarter 2007 financial reports are a very welcome change. I know we are riding the crest of the membership wave generated by the elimination of the Morse code licensing requirement. But it is a nice feeling... However, I sincerely hope we will be able to use this opportunity to successfully reverse our membership decline and demographics. Thanks to all the staff for their extra work caused by this membership increase and license upgrade rush. 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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RE: Re RM11306 RM15416
by Joel Harrison 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Jay, One of the things the EC made very clear to me, Dave and Chris (and we heard it 59 ++++) was that if we withdraw our petition we must have a plan to proceed that includes very clear and positive news stories about what we are doing, and why throughout the rest of this process. A write-up is in the works right now, and it will be sent to the board first for review before publication. It will be posted just prior to any filing to withdraw the petition. 73 Joel W5ZN _____ From: John Bellows [mailto:jbellows@skypoint.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:04 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: Re RM11306 RM15416 This is a follow up to my ODV of Friday April 13th. (see attachment) I am now convinced that if we still believe in the substance of our Regulation by Bandwidth Proposal the appropriate action is to follow the EC recommendation and withdraw the petition at his time. (RM11306) I continue to believe that Regulation by Bandwidth Proposal is preferable to Regulation by Mode. We shouldnt underestimate the challenge of crafting a proposal that will overcome the natural inclination of Amateurs to stay with a regulatory system, however cumbersome, that we are accustomed to. We shouldnt underestimate the inevitable opposition that will arise from some due to misunderstanding, mistrust or dislike of ARRL. I agree with much of what Jim Weaver says in ODV 15436, but I think our challenge is even greater than asking folks to just buy a product.. If we are to succeed we will need to carefully craft the revised petition, anticipate the opposition and be ready to respond with simple clear statements and facts that are easily communicated. Unfortunately it is becoming a sound bite world. We will need to have both the supporting information and the sound bites. If we do withdraw the Petition I hope we will be ready with a clear and positive statement as to what we are doing and why we are taking this action. Jay, KØQB

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[arrl-odv:15445] Re:!st Quarter Financial Reports
by dick＠pobox.com 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

17 APR 2007 - 1755 CDT With all the financial stormy weather we have endured for virtually all of my tenure on the board, Barry's first quarter 2007 financial reports are a very welcome change. I know we are riding the crest of the membership wave generated by the elimination of the Morse code licensing requirement. But it is a nice feeling... However, I sincerely hope we will be able to use this opportunity to successfully reverse our membership decline and demographics. Thanks to all the staff for their extra work caused by this membership increase and license upgrade rush. 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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[arrl-odv:15444] !st Quarter Financial Reports
by Shelley, Barry, N1VXY 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

The financial reports for the first quarter of 2007 have been posted to the ODV section of the ARRL Web site. http://www.arrl.org/members-only/ODV/docs/Financial%20Reports-2007/ If you have questions, please let us know. 73, Barry J. Shelley, N1VXY Chief Financial Officer

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RE: Re RM11306 RM15416
by Jim Weaver 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Jay, Please read the first Product Research as I should have said it Process Development. Of course, the precise nomenclature can be expected to vary among companies. Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: <mailto:k8je@arrl.org> k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel.: 513-459-0142 ARRL - The Reason Amateur Radio Is! Members - The Reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: Jim Weaver [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:18 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: RE: Re RM11306 RM15416 Jay, I support what you say, fully. As to the detail you raised, this is indeed part of selling a product. This selling begins with the inception of a conceptualized product, through its scientific development (Product Research), through its fine-tuned presentation in final form (Product Research and Consumer Research) on through its pre-introduction and introduction into the market (Market Development and Consumer Research to anticipate the attacks and plan on preventing and managing them). I believe we are together, completely in the basic concept of what needs to be done. Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: <mailto:k8je@arrl.org> k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel.: 513-459-0142 ARRL - The Reason Amateur Radio Is! Members - The Reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: John Bellows [mailto:jbellows@skypoint.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:04 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: Re RM11306 RM15416 This is a follow up to my ODV of Friday April 13th. (see attachment) I am now convinced that if we still believe in the substance of our Regulation by Bandwidth Proposal the appropriate action is to follow the EC recommendation and withdraw the petition at his time. (RM11306) I continue to believe that Regulation by Bandwidth Proposal is preferable to Regulation by Mode. We shouldnt underestimate the challenge of crafting a proposal that will overcome the natural inclination of Amateurs to stay with a regulatory system, however cumbersome, that we are accustomed to. We shouldnt underestimate the inevitable opposition that will arise from some due to misunderstanding, mistrust or dislike of ARRL. I agree with much of what Jim Weaver says in ODV 15436, but I think our challenge is even greater than asking folks to just buy a product.. If we are to succeed we will need to carefully craft the revised petition, anticipate the opposition and be ready to respond with simple clear statements and facts that are easily communicated. Unfortunately it is becoming a sound bite world. We will need to have both the supporting information and the sound bites. If we do withdraw the Petition I hope we will be ready with a clear and positive statement as to what we are doing and why we are taking this action. Jay, KØQB

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RE: Re RM11306 RM15416
by Jim Weaver 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Jay, I support what you say, fully. As to the detail you raised, this is indeed part of selling a product. This selling begins with the inception of a conceptualized product, through its scientific development (Product Research), through its fine-tuned presentation in final form (Product Research and Consumer Research) on through its pre-introduction and introduction into the market (Market Development and Consumer Research to anticipate the attacks and plan on preventing and managing them). I believe we are together, completely in the basic concept of what needs to be done. Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: <mailto:k8je@arrl.org> k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel.: 513-459-0142 ARRL - The Reason Amateur Radio Is! Members - The Reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: John Bellows [mailto:jbellows@skypoint.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:04 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: Re RM11306 RM15416 This is a follow up to my ODV of Friday April 13th. (see attachment) I am now convinced that if we still believe in the substance of our Regulation by Bandwidth Proposal the appropriate action is to follow the EC recommendation and withdraw the petition at his time. (RM11306) I continue to believe that Regulation by Bandwidth Proposal is preferable to Regulation by Mode. We shouldnt underestimate the challenge of crafting a proposal that will overcome the natural inclination of Amateurs to stay with a regulatory system, however cumbersome, that we are accustomed to. We shouldnt underestimate the inevitable opposition that will arise from some due to misunderstanding, mistrust or dislike of ARRL. I agree with much of what Jim Weaver says in ODV 15436, but I think our challenge is even greater than asking folks to just buy a product.. If we are to succeed we will need to carefully craft the revised petition, anticipate the opposition and be ready to respond with simple clear statements and facts that are easily communicated. Unfortunately it is becoming a sound bite world. We will need to have both the supporting information and the sound bites. If we do withdraw the Petition I hope we will be ready with a clear and positive statement as to what we are doing and why we are taking this action. Jay, KØQB

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Re RM11306 RM15416
by John Bellows 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

This is a follow up to my ODV of Friday April 13th. (see attachment) I am now convinced that if we still believe in the substance of our Regulation by Bandwidth Proposal the appropriate action is to follow the EC recommendation and withdraw the petition at his time. (RM11306) I continue to believe that Regulation by Bandwidth Proposal is preferable to Regulation by Mode. We shouldnt underestimate the challenge of crafting a proposal that will overcome the natural inclination of Amateurs to stay with a regulatory system, however cumbersome, that we are accustomed to. We shouldnt underestimate the inevitable opposition that will arise from some due to misunderstanding, mistrust or dislike of ARRL. I agree with much of what Jim Weaver says in ODV 15436, but I think our challenge is even greater than asking folks to just buy a product.. If we are to succeed we will need to carefully craft the revised petition, anticipate the opposition and be ready to respond with simple clear statements and facts that are easily communicated. Unfortunately it is becoming a sound bite world. We will need to have both the supporting information and the sound bites. If we do withdraw the Petition I hope we will be ready with a clear and positive statement as to what we are doing and why we are taking this action. Jay, KØQB

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Re RM11306 RM15416
by John Bellows 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

This is a follow up to my ODV of Friday April 13th. (see attachment) I am now convinced that if we still believe in the substance of our Regulation by Bandwidth Proposal the appropriate action is to follow the EC recommendation and withdraw the petition at his time. (RM11306) I continue to believe that Regulation by Bandwidth Proposal is preferable to Regulation by Mode. We shouldnt underestimate the challenge of crafting a proposal that will overcome the natural inclination of Amateurs to stay with a regulatory system, however cumbersome, that we are accustomed to. We shouldnt underestimate the inevitable opposition that will arise from some due to misunderstanding, mistrust or dislike of ARRL. I agree with much of what Jim Weaver says in ODV 15436, but I think our challenge is even greater than asking folks to just buy a product.. If we are to succeed we will need to carefully craft the revised petition, anticipate the opposition and be ready to respond with simple clear statements and facts that are easily communicated. Unfortunately it is becoming a sound bite world. We will need to have both the supporting information and the sound bites. If we do withdraw the Petition I hope we will be ready with a clear and positive statement as to what we are doing and why we are taking this action. Jay, KØQB

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