October 2003 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:9588] Re: Fwd: congressional outreach program
by W5JBP＠aol.com 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

CONFIDENTIAL-Not to be put out to Newsline, Rain Report, QRZ, E-ham, AARA, AM window BBS, (as our July meeting was) or the web in general. In a message dated 10/09/2003 11:18:32 AM Central Daylight Time, frenaye(a)pcnet.com writes: > It also sounds to me like the decision has been made on which strategies > have been selected for 2004 implementation. I think we ought to agree on them > first before we just bull forward. > No, that is not the case at all. Speaking just for myself, I thought the board would decide that at the January meeting based on the results of the long range planning seminars put on by Bud Couch for which we paid good money. You have his summary, but I have heard nothing from any of you about "it was good, bad or indifferent." Dave Sumner and I have discussed Chwat & Company and we think they are doing a good job. If the board thinks we need to do more, no problem but is putting another $80,000 job in the mix should be considered carefully. I will be brutally honest, but when Steve Mansfield was our Washington representative, all Chwat & Company did was set his appointment calendar. Pretty expensive social secretary in my view. We have John and Derek doing a lot more these days. I want you to go back and look at some of Steve's reports. In the reports there was a lot of "fluff" such as: "Tried to see xxx, but they were not in, talked to zzz but they seemed disinterested." Making 50 calls per month without quality is make work, but no results. I had rather see Derek make 10 calls but with substance and just scatter shoot. My last trip to Washington was covered by a report from Chris Imlay and we discussed it and he agreed to write it for me. Why? Because of the attorney-client privilege clause in the e-mail. I do not like putting people's names in print over e-mail, for several reasons. If it involved inside information, that person could lose his/her job if the e-mail found it's way to some of the ham web sites. I was very uncomfortable in mentioning Bruce Franca in my earlier report, but Chris did under the above caveats. Chris, Dave and I have developed some good relations with key people over the years because they know that if they give us something in the way of a "heads up" we won't print it in QST. Having these contacts have served the League well over the years and it would be counter productive to operate otherwise. While I am rambling, don't you all think that it is strange that the membership has not asked us: "Why is there no hurry to comment on the CW petitions?" Well, you know the answer, we were at the FCC and ask, and pointed out our time line to them. That was in Chris' report. A lot of the amateurs would go ballistic if they knew that we used influence in the matter. BPL- We are presently working on our list of people to invite to a "BPL Coalition" to discuss our mutual interest and how all would be impacted in the 2 to 80 MHz spectrum. Paul, Chris and Dave are taking the lead, but so far the date has not been pinned down exactly nor has the list we have. Each of you should be aware, amateur radio cannot thwart BPL by ourselves. We will need partners. How much should we make public? You have seen (or should have by now) how the PLCA has started down playing Ed Hare's reports. We are working (Paul and Chris) with an outside company to certify our data. We continue to gather information and put out fires at the same time. Morse Code- 1st Vice President Harrison has submitted an excellent white paper to the EC. The members are studying it now. There has been a few questions as to the number of license classes but we should have a lively discussion at the EC meeting on November the 9th. After that, the results will be submitted to the full board for consideration. I assume that all of you are still taking input from the membership and have a "tally sheet" going to help the decision making process. Now, back to the subject line of this post. We have done a terrible job in getting grass root support for our two bills in Congress. I get e-mails all the time about why we have not thrown more support to the bills in the way of cash and work. Simply put and I quote myself: "We can get the bills introduced, but the amateurs have to write their representatives to get them passed." Unquote. I talked to John Chwat at length about this last month. It was our collective opinion that the members don't know what to do or how to do it. The majority do not have the experience or courage to call a district congressional office much less go in person. Each of you have made many talks before clubs and conventions. You are old hands at meeting people and public speaking. Our members are not, so we need to give them a little help. I put John's draft paper out to all you and I have had only two responses. I think it is a good piece and with a little polish we could put it up on our web site along with a story and hot link for down load. Enough for now, the phone is ringing. Jim Haynie

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[ARRL-ODV:9587] Re: Fwd: congressional outreach program
by Tom Frenaye 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

At 02:38 PM 10/8/2003, W5JBP wrote: >At the meeting in St. Louis group "A" came up with the suggestion that each division have a Congressional representative. It can be more than one and what I am thinking of is also involving the Section Managers. > >It is no secret that I have been disappointed in the amount of grass root contacts our members have had with congressional representatives. I had asked John Chwat & Company to prepare a paper that would help us and it is below as a zip file. Print it out and let me know what you think. As I said in a message to you in early August, "We used to have regular reporting of activities on the Hill from Steve Mansfield, at the [July] Board meeting we found out that Chwat & Co has continued to write up visit reports but they are not being distributed to the Board any more. It's been a couple of weeks and I've still seen nothing." In my brief discussions with John Chwat, he seemed quite frustrated that he was only dealing with you and Chris, and wanted to work more directly with Board members. We still don't seem to be getting copies of any of his reports with members of Congress, so maybe nothing is happening. My understanding was that our dependence on Chwat this last year or so was a temporary thing, and that Steve Mansfield's position was going to be filled. Is that the plan for 2004? I don't think we can possibly do a good job of Congressional relations unless there is focused staff support. I just don't think the program will work with Chwat working directly with volunteers (Board, Officers and members). Rather than taking this proposal as the final word, I'd prefer to have it reviewed by EVP/CEO Sumner. He's who we pay the big bucks to make things work. This program will cost some time and money, and we need to institutionalize it. The last several "projects" that we've embarked upon have suffered through a difficult start-up process because we did them on an ad-hoc basis (Big Project, DHS MOU, BPL). It also sounds to me like the decision has been made on which strategies have been selected for 2004 implementation. I think we ought to agree on them first before we just bull forward. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:9586] Another Morse petitions update
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

Here is Rick Lindquist's latest summary of the Morse petitions, reflecting the recently assigned RM numbers. Dave K1ZZ

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[ARRL-ODV:9585] Re: 73 Magazine QRT
by Stephen Mendelsohn 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

Hummm that may be the reason some of Wayne's advertisers have approached me about buying the Brooklyn Bridge. My standard reply is "for a donation to the ARRL BPL fund, the bridge is yours" :-)) -73- Steve, W2ML Kay Craigie wrote: >Somebody who will buy advertising in a magazine that has already >announced its own demise may also be in the market for that bridge in >Brooklyn or vacation home sites in the Okefenokee Swamp. 73 - Kay N3KN > > > > > > >

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[ARRL-ODV:9584] Re: 73 Magazine QRT
by Kay Craigie 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

Somebody who will buy advertising in a magazine that has already announced its own demise may also be in the market for that bridge in Brooklyn or vacation home sites in the Okefenokee Swamp. 73 - Kay N3KN

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[ARRL-ODV:9583] Re: 73 Magazine QRT
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

Well, now Wayne is fudging: "if the advertisers will ante up we'll come out with a combined October/November issue." But as Joel says, hardly anyone cares any more. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Harrison, Joel (1st Vice President) Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 6:20 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9580] Re: 73 Magazine QRT Its been dead for years. Someone just finally covered the carcass with dirt. Joel -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 8:57 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9574] 73 Magazine QRT Wayne Green has confirmed that 73 magazine has ceased publication. See below. We'll have a Web story up shortly. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Lindquist, Rick, N1RL Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:42 AM To: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; Wilson, Mark K1RO; 'Dennis Motschenbacher, K7BV' Subject: FW: 73 Magazine The view from 73 World . . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rick Lindquist, N1RL Senior News Editor ARRL HQ 860-594-0222 n1rl(a)arrl.org Read Amateur Radio News in The ARRL Letter at http://www.arrl.org/news/arrlletter See Late-Breaking Amateur Radio News in The ARRLWeb Extra at http://www.arrl.org/members-only/extra Hear Amateur Radio News at http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/audio/ (or call 860-594-0384) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: W2NSD(a)aol.com [mailto:W2NSD@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 8:23 PM To: Lindquist, Rick, N1RL Subject: Re: 73 Magazine 73 Magazine has ceased publication -- after completing 43 years of publication. With the hobby slowly dying as a result of a lack of new hams, the industry is fading awayand without sufficient advertising the magazine couldn't continue. It was an interesting 43 years. I'll write about it some time. I'll be continuing my essays on my web site for those subscribers who mainly bought the magazine for them. No definite arrangements have been made yet about subscriptions. I do plan to scan in articles of lasting interest on a Web site so they'll be available. Wayne

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[ARRL-ODV:9582] Re: Fwd: congressional outreach program
by Greg Milnes 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

I like it. Both papers are fine. 73/Greg W7OZ

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[ARRL-ODV:9581] Re: Fwd: congressional outreach program
by Jim 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

Jim, I've finally been able to make the time to review the Chwat proposal. I think it is great. I am sure that when we review it very closely, we might have relatively minor fine-tunings to make, but I could buy into as is. Good job. Jim W. AMATEUR RADIO: The only fail-safe communications system in the world. ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio is! Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040-9660, Tel. 513-459-0142, E-mail <mailto:k8je@arrl.org> k8je(a)arrl.org -----Original Message----- From: W5JBP(a)aol.com [mailto:W5JBP@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 2:39 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9575] Fwd: congressional outreach program At the meeting in St. Louis group "A" came up with the suggestion that each division have a Congressional representative. It can be more than one and what I am thinking of is also involving the Section Managers. It is no secret that I have been disappointed in the amount of grass root contacts our members have had with congressional representatives. I had asked John Chwat & Company to prepare a paper that would help us and it is below as a zip file. Print it out and let me know what you think. 73 Jim Haynie, W5JBP

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[ARRL-ODV:9580] Re: 73 Magazine QRT
by Joel Harrison 08 Oct '03

08 Oct '03

Its been dead for years. Someone just finally covered the carcass with dirt. Joel -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 8:57 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9574] 73 Magazine QRT Wayne Green has confirmed that 73 magazine has ceased publication. See below. We'll have a Web story up shortly. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Lindquist, Rick, N1RL Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:42 AM To: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; Wilson, Mark K1RO; 'Dennis Motschenbacher, K7BV' Subject: FW: 73 Magazine The view from 73 World . . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rick Lindquist, N1RL Senior News Editor ARRL HQ 860-594-0222 n1rl(a)arrl.org Read Amateur Radio News in The ARRL Letter at http://www.arrl.org/news/arrlletter See Late-Breaking Amateur Radio News in The ARRLWeb Extra at http://www.arrl.org/members-only/extra Hear Amateur Radio News at http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/audio/ (or call 860-594-0384) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: W2NSD(a)aol.com [mailto:W2NSD@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 8:23 PM To: Lindquist, Rick, N1RL Subject: Re: 73 Magazine 73 Magazine has ceased publication -- after completing 43 years of publication. With the hobby slowly dying as a result of a lack of new hams, the industry is fading awayand without sufficient advertising the magazine couldn't continue. It was an interesting 43 years. I'll write about it some time. I'll be continuing my essays on my web site for those subscribers who mainly bought the magazine for them. No definite arrangements have been made yet about subscriptions. I do plan to scan in articles of lasting interest on a Web site so they'll be available. Wayne

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[ARRL-ODV:9579] Re: Fwd: congressional outreach program
by Dick Mondro 08 Oct '03

08 Oct '03

I think it is very well done and could serve as a valuable resource for use at the section level. This work should not lie about gathering moss. 73, Dick Mondro ----- Original Message ----- From: W5JBP(a)aol.com To: arrl-odv Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 2:38 PM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9575] Fwd: congressional outreach program At the meeting in St. Louis group "A" came up with the suggestion that each division have a Congressional representative. It can be more than one and what I am thinking of is also involving the Section Managers. It is no secret that I have been disappointed in the amount of grass root contacts our members have had with congressional representatives. I had asked John Chwat & Company to prepare a paper that would help us and it is below as a zip file. Print it out and let me know what you think. 73 Jim Haynie, W5JBP --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 9/29/2003

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