January 2003 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:8256] Re: Fwd: Is K1MAN Authorized To Distribute The Video?
by Frank Fallon - N2FF 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

I agree that it is annoying and frustrating that K1MAN has proven once again to be a sleazoid. But, having said that, I do not remember seeing any copyright info or an ARRL logo or trademark info either. Dave Bell in his haste to get the product out may have overlooked that. I think Chris is going to tell us that we have a very weak case for any legal action here. I certainly think we need to handle the volunteers with kid gloves here as we certainly want them to do another video or two. Here again this is Baxter at his worst. I am a bit worried about how Walter will feel about this as we certainly do not want to have him feel that he has once again been had by Baxter. Please let us not loose sight of the fact that this is great uplifting video to showcase Amateur Radio at its best. Cronkite is the most trusted man in American, Baxter is way out on the opposite end of the scale. Our members are going to feel very good about themselves and what hams do. That is a very good thing. The positive spin here is that K1MAN is helping us distribute a great video. Yes, I know we don't want or need his help. I am also not about to make any motion to thank him for it. It is unfortunate that we have to deal with such "negativity" after such a uplifting and positive Board meeting. It is cold as all get out on LI today. I really miss the palm trees. I hope everyone got to their warm homes safely. Frank...N2FF.........

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[ARRL-ODV:8255] Video
by W5JBP＠aol.com 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

Until we can get some problems ironed out please do not allow copies to be made of the CD or tape. If you have the capability to add the line: Copywrite 2003 ARRL all rights reserved; to the beginning OK. Other wise, please stand by. Jim Haynie

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[ARRL-ODV:8254] Re: K1MAN
by Art Goddard 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

Tom, with my Mac I can import this ARRL MPEG and write it in as a DVD. 73, Art ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Frenaye" <frenaye(a)pcnet.com> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 5:46 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:8252] Re: K1MAN > At 08:04 PM 1/19/2003 -0800, Jim/W6CF wrote: > > >1. We don't know what Baxter is giving away. It *seems* as if it's the ARRL DVD, but is it? > > I sent Jim Haynie some of my own comments about Baxter but that's a different topic than this message. > > I'm not sure why some people are referring to the new video as the ARRL DVD. It does NOT require a DVD player and I think we'll be making a mistake if any of us refer to it that way. It is a CD with one 70mb MP3 (mpeg) file, similar to what is used for music and other multi-media on the Internet. DVD CDs are the same size as our CD but have content in a different format. > > -- Tom > > > ===== > e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ > Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444 > > >

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[ARRL-ODV:8253] Re: K1MAN
by Tom Frenaye 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

At 08:46 AM 1/20/2003 -0500, I wrote: >It does NOT require a DVD player and I think we'll be making a mistake if any of us refer to it that way. Actually, it may not play in a DVD-only player. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:8252] Re: K1MAN
by Tom Frenaye 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

At 08:04 PM 1/19/2003 -0800, Jim/W6CF wrote: >1. We don't know what Baxter is giving away. It *seems* as if it's the ARRL DVD, but is it? I sent Jim Haynie some of my own comments about Baxter but that's a different topic than this message. I'm not sure why some people are referring to the new video as the ARRL DVD. It does NOT require a DVD player and I think we'll be making a mistake if any of us refer to it that way. It is a CD with one 70mb MP3 (mpeg) file, similar to what is used for music and other multi-media on the Internet. DVD CDs are the same size as our CD but have content in a different format. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:8251] K1MAN
by Jim Maxwell 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

Some comments - 1. We don't know what Baxter is giving away. It *seems* as if it's the ARRL DVD, but is it? Shouldn't someone who lives near Baxter send for a copy and see exactly what it is he's distributing and what state it's in? (Modified?) 2. The disk itself says (c) ARRL 2003, but there is no mention of the copyright on the web page or in the downloading process. All we say is that it's free, with no restrictions mentioned. 3. The first image on the disk says "ATTENTION; Copyright Material Not For Broadcast." If Baxter really has the ARRL DVD, he isn't broadcasting or selling it. He's giving it away. 4. If he's giving the ARRL DVD away, is he obligated to admit in his advertising where he got it? It *will* be interesting to hear what Chris has to say about this. 73. Jim, W6CF

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[ARRL-ODV:8250] Re: Fwd: Is K1MAN Authorized To Distribute TheVideo?
by STeve Mendelsohn 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

Jim, I suggest you ask whomever produced the CDs if they Watermarked them. This is done for copyright uses and, if done, should protect us. -73- Steve, W2ML/6 at Super Bowl

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[ARRL-ODV:8249] Re: Fwd: Is K1MAN Authorized To Distribute The Video?
by Kay Craigie 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

I hope it turns out that we can stop this. 73 - Kay WT3P --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/2003

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[ARRL-ODV:8248] Re: Fwd: Is K1MAN Authorized To Distribute The Video?
by W5JBP＠aol.com 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

No, Kay, I think that if you down load from our site, it is for personal use, and not for mass distribution. I have a message in to Dave and Chris about this. I will be talking to them tomorrow. As you can imagine, I am furious! Jim Haynie

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[ARRL-ODV:8247] Re: Fwd: Is K1MAN Authorized To Distribute The Video?
by Kay Craigie 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

I don't like this turn of events, either. But how could we have ensured that only nice guys, or pro-ARRL guys, download this video? When we put it on the web for free download, we gave up control over it. 73 - Kay WT3P --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/2003

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