January 2003 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:8215] Re: BOD Meeting
by Kustosik, Lisa, KA1UFZ 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

Just wondering who will be bringing their laptop computers inside the board room? Working on outlet setup. Please respond directly to me, not ODV. TNX Lisa

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[ARRL-ODV:8214] Re: [Fwd: ARLB004 ARRL Board to Take Strategic Tack at Januar...
by Kay Craigie 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

The bulletin refers to the "adult population," which means anybody over the age of 18, not just "seniors." If the bulletin had said "seniors" (i.e., old people), then I'd agree it sends an undesirable message. However, I didn't get the impression that "adult" was a code-word for "old people," in this bulletin, as it is a code-word for "pornographic" in a context with which of course none of us has had any personal experience whatsoever. 73 - Kay WT3P --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/2003

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[ARRL-ODV:8213] Re: [Fwd: ARLB004 ARRL Board to Take Strategic Tack at Januar...
by Jim Maxwell 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

Jim - No question that older folks should play a role in our strategy. My concern isn't over that, my concern is that the bulletin mentions seniors exclusively. It's a matter of balance. 73. Jim,. W6CF W5JBP(a)aol.com wrote: >Good morning Jim, and all. I have had a number of complaints about our >spending time with kids and not enough time with the "old folks." I am open >to any ideas that we can implement to attract the senior citizen, as he/she >has the where with all to spend a bit of money on amateur radio where kids do >not. > >I would indeed like to see some type of good article in "Modern Maturity" >that would tell our senior citizens how much fun, and the public service they >could provide by getting into amateur radio. (Just one item on my wish list) > >Jim Haynie > > > >

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[ARRL-ODV:8212] Re: [Fwd: ARLB004 ARRL Board to Take Strategic Tack at Januar...
by W5JBP＠aol.com 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

Good morning Jim, and all. I have had a number of complaints about our spending time with kids and not enough time with the "old folks." I am open to any ideas that we can implement to attract the senior citizen, as he/she has the where with all to spend a bit of money on amateur radio where kids do not. I would indeed like to see some type of good article in "Modern Maturity" that would tell our senior citizens how much fun, and the public service they could provide by getting into amateur radio. (Just one item on my wish list) Jim Haynie

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[ARRL-ODV:8211] [Fwd: ARLB004 ARRL Board to Take Strategic Tack at January Meeting]
by Jim Maxwell 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

This bulletin sends out the wrong message, in my opinion. It states we will be looking at ways to "stimulate the entry of prospective amateurs from among the adult population and explore ways to entice previously licensed individuals back to Amateur Radio." In other words, our strategy for the future consists of attracting and keeping old folks. What about the kids? 73. Jim, W6CF -------- Original Message -------- Subject: ARLB004 ARRL Board to Take Strategic Tack at January Meeting Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:46:06 -0500 From: "ARRL Web site" <memberlist(a)www.arrl.org> To: jmax(a)attglobal.net CC: Subscribed ARRL Members: ; SB QST @ ARL $ARLB004 ARLB004 ARRL Board to Take Strategic Tack at January Meeting ZCZC AG04 QST de W1AW ARRL Bulletin 4 ARLB004 >From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT January 10, 2003 To all radio amateurs SB QST ARL ARLB004 ARLB004 ARRL Board to Take Strategic Tack at January Meeting The ARRL Board of Directors will gather in Windsor, Connecticut, January 17-18. With ARRL and IARU positions established for most pending legislative issues and for the upcoming 2003 World Radiocommunication Conference, the Board is poised to tackle strategic planning for the next three to five years as one of its top agenda topics. ''We need to look at our basic assumptions,'' said ARRL Chief Executive Officer David Sumner, K1ZZ. ''We will do what we have to do to ensure that Amateur Radio and the ARRL will be healthy 20 years from now.'' At the January meeting, the Board will consider recommendations as to how strategic planning should be conducted later this year. Sumner said ARRL Board members are interested in how the ARRL can stimulate the entry of prospective amateurs from among the adult population and explore ways to entice previously licensed individuals back to Amateur Radio. He also noted that the Board will be asked to ratify the ARRL budget for 2003, which is expected to be the last year in a three-year period of planned deficit spending. In addition to reports from ARRL President Jim Haynie, W5JBP, other ARRL officers and standing committees, the Board is expected to hear from technical, ad hoc and advisory committees. NNNN /EX

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[ARRL-ODV:8210] Re: FedEx
by Joel Harrison 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

Maybe we need new staff that can handle electronic documents - its that simple. We haven't sent a paper document through the USPS/FedEX, etc in over two years in my business. They're sent as attachments as either the actual file document, or a .pdf file (Adobe Acrobat Reader software is free!!) For a group as large as ours, the time savings and improvement in efficiency for sending electronic documents is exponential compared to photocopying, addressing and mailing 35+ sets of documents for Officers, Directors, & Vice Directors. Plus, I'm usually a moving target throughout the week. Electronic documents reach me wherever I am on a daily basis. When they are sent through the mail or FedEx, it may be a week or two before I even see them. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: Coy Day [mailto:n5ok.ok@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 2:40 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:8201] Re: FedEx I believe Joel is right. Today I received the West Gulf Division New Licensees list in the mail. I will be glad when we can get that as an attachment in a form that we can sort it and print labels. Coy ----- Original Message ----- From: Joel Harrison <w5zn(a)arrl.org> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:08 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:8199] FedEx Why are we FedExing the world with Board reports at the last moment????? It was my understanding we were going to stop this nonsense (and cost) and provide them as email attachments. Last time I look (3 seconds ago) I was still able to receive attachments. Dave - Why??? Even if someone submits a paper report in "non-electronic" form, it is much cheaper to scan it into a .pdf file and send it as an attachment. Joel

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[ARRL-ODV:8209] Re: FedEx
by Tom Frenaye 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

At 09:11 AM 1/12/2003 -0500, Kay/WT3P wrote: >We haven't received any new ham lists for the club since I started asking >these questions. Something has gone amiss. I am going to talk to some staff >in person next week to see if I can get things moving once again for the >club. There were some delays associated with the conversion to Siebel software (and a month or two missed). >I'm trying to figure out why one Director has been able to get the list in a >format that another Director has been asking for but can't get. I also get an electronic file of members who failed to renew (continuity breaks). In the past I've also received lists of new members, and of prospective hams (those who request info via newham(a)arrl.org or the 800-number - but there are few of them...). The lists of new members, new hams and prospects are supposed to be available from F&ES. The information on benefits to affiliated clubs says ( http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/club/benefits.html ): "Mailing lists/labels of licensees by ZIP code are available from Headquarters. These monthly lists (available either by e-mail or standard mail) assist clubs in direct mail promotions of club-sponsored events, and in recruitment of new members. Free mailing labels of ARRL members or clubs are available to clubs once a year." >Should it have to be this complicated to get the list of membership >prospects in a format we (the Board, the affiliated clubs, the Section >Managers, whoever....) can easily use? I agree, sounds like something isn't working quite right. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:8208] Re: FedEx
by Kay Craigie 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

I'm trying the same sort of thing wearing my other hat, that of membership chair for my local Special Service Club. What we traditionally got for the club from F&ES is a .rtf format file that is a pain to get into a database to make up mailing labels, etc. I asked if I could get the list as a spreadsheet or delimited ASCII file. It *seemed* like this was a new idea to F&ES, who referred me to Cathy Scharr. She was going to talk to John Proctor and see what they could do for me (i.e., for my club). I haven't heard anything back since September, so I guess the question stalled out somewhere. I admit I haven't followed up on it. We haven't received any new ham lists for the club since I started asking these questions. Something has gone amiss. I am going to talk to some staff in person next week to see if I can get things moving once again for the club. I'm trying to figure out why one Director has been able to get the list in a format that another Director has been asking for but can't get. Should it have to be this complicated to get the list of membership prospects in a format we (the Board, the affiliated clubs, the Section Managers, whoever....) can easily use? 73 - Kay WT3P --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/2003

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[ARRL-ODV:8206] Re: FedEx
by K5ur＠aol.com 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

Whoa, hold your horses. I've asked for this for years and not gotten it. 73, K5UR In a message dated 1/11/03 4:33:05 PM Central Standard Time, frenaye(a)pcnet.com writes: << At 02:39 PM 1/11/2003 -0600, Coy Day wrote: >Today I received the West Gulf Division New Licensees list in the mail. I >will be glad when we can get that as an attachment in a form that we can >sort it and print labels. You can get the list of new licensees in several formats. I've been getting it electronically for close to ten years now. Just ask. -- Tom >>

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[ARRL-ODV:8205] Re: FedEx
by Jim Weaver 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

Tom, Thanks for the offer. I may take you up on it a bit later. I'll be heading to Newington Tuesday (leave the house about 8 AM) and won't have time until after the meeting to try anything. I occasionally see your call on the cluster. I just missed Antarctica on 40M tonight. I happened to see the spot when I came into the shack/office just as he was disappearing. I understand the propagation was fairly decent up until a few minutes before this. I'm probably a real piker compared with you. I have over 100 countries on 10, 15, 10, but only 85 on 40 and much fewer on 80 -- so far. CU Wednesday or Thursday. 73, Jim Weaver k8je(a)arrl.org

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