[arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings
Heads UP See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower... Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database. We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance. _______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office:512-445-6262 Cell:512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 *_______________________________________***
Been poking around looking for the actual regulation and am not finding it. We had this come up at a state level a few years back, and were able to work with my good friend Senator Honeyford to have an exemption added. Looks like it has moved beyond state level. Washington law is here FYI: https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=14.16.100 Mark, KB7HDX On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 8:00 AM John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> wrote:
Heads UP
See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower...
Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database.
We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance.
_______________________________________
John Robert Stratton
N5AUS
Director
West Gulf Division
Office: 512-445-6262
Cell: 512-426-2028
P.O. Box 2232
Austin, Texas 78768-2232
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As regulations cannot change a statute, you may find the attached analysis of the original statute to be insightful as to how many ARRL members will actually be affected (my view: very few). See the attached Power Point. I was in Dripping Springs, TX, for a hearing and a former hill staffer came up to me, trying to tell me that my client’s tower, 15 feet from his barn (actually a dance studio), 65’ high, on a suburban (not farmed) lot, was impacted by the statute. No. The client’s tower was not covered because: · His land was not used for agricultural purposes, · The tower was adjacent to a barn, and · The tower was within the curtilage of a building. As curtilage is not an everyday word, In law, the curtilage of a <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House> house or <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwelling> dwelling is the land immediately surrounding it, including any closely associated buildings and structures, but excluding any associated " <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_fields_doctrine> open fields beyond", and also excluding any closely associated buildings, structures, or divisions that contain the separate intimate activities of their own respective occupants with those occupying residents being persons other than those residents of the house or dwelling of which the building is associated. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtilage#cite_note-1> [1]It delineates the boundary within which a home owner can have a <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_expectation_of_privacy> reasonable expectation of privacy and where "intimate home activities" take place. It is an important legal concept in certain jurisdictions for the understanding of <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_and_seizure> search and seizure, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conveyancing> conveyancing of <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_property> real property, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burglary> burglary, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trespass> trespass, and <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_use_planning> land use planning. In urban properties, the location of the curtilage may be evident from the position of fences, wall and similar; within larger properties it may be a matter of some legal debate as to where the private area ends and the "open fields" start And if we wanted to be certain, we could have registered the tower in the ASR system and obtained a “no hazard” letter from the FAA. Fred Hopengarten, Esq. K1VR Six Willarch Road Lincoln, MA 01773 781.259.0088, k1vr@arrl.org New England Director cid:a4a12f0b-0468-4a39-b953-31b2a3da8564 Serving ME, NH, VT, MA, RI and CT From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of John Robert Stratton Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2019 11:01 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings Heads UP See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower... Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database. We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance. _______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office: 512-445-6262 Cell: 512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 _______________________________________ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Fred — This probably pertains to two of my towers. Some months ago I spent time refreshing my understanding of “curtilage” and concluded that my towers were, at best, in a gray area, where “gray area” would translate into “Lawyers will make lots of money arguing pro and con”. So my intention is to register my towers in the Daily Digital Obstacle File. My question is: Do the new rules specify the accuracy required for the coordinates used to describe the location of a tower? I can get coordinates from a “surveying” app on my iPhone but I question the ultimate accuracy of that source. Is any form of “safe harbor” specified anywhere? Bud
This matter was the subject of one of the well-attended presentations at Dayton in our law forum last year attended by several board officers. Bob Famiglio, K3RF Vice Director - ARRL Atlantic Division 610-359-7300 www.QRZ.com/db/K3RF From: arrl-odv On Behalf Of Fred Hopengarten Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2019 11:50 AM To: 'John Robert Stratton' <N5AUS@n5aus.com>; 'arrl-odv' <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:28289] Re: FAA & Tower Markings As regulations cannot change a statute, you may find the attached analysis of the original statute to be insightful as to how many ARRL members will actually be affected (my view: very few). See the attached Power Point. I was in Dripping Springs, TX, for a hearing and a former hill staffer came up to me, trying to tell me that my client’s tower, 15 feet from his barn (actually a dance studio), 65’ high, on a suburban (not farmed) lot, was impacted by the statute. No. The client’s tower was not covered because: * His land was not used for agricultural purposes, * The tower was adjacent to a barn, and * The tower was within the curtilage of a building. As curtilage is not an everyday word, In law, the curtilage of a <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House> house or <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwelling> dwelling is the land immediately surrounding it, including any closely associated buildings and structures, but excluding any associated " <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_fields_doctrine> open fields beyond", and also excluding any closely associated buildings, structures, or divisions that contain the separate intimate activities of their own respective occupants with those occupying residents being persons other than those residents of the house or dwelling of which the building is associated. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtilage#cite_note-1> [1]It delineates the boundary within which a home owner can have a <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_expectation_of_privacy> reasonable expectation of privacy and where "intimate home activities" take place. It is an important legal concept in certain jurisdictions for the understanding of <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_and_seizure> search and seizure, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conveyancing> conveyancing of <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_property> real property, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burglary> burglary, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trespass> trespass, and <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_use_planning> land use planning. In urban properties, the location of the curtilage may be evident from the position of fences, wall and similar; within larger properties it may be a matter of some legal debate as to where the private area ends and the "open fields" start And if we wanted to be certain, we could have registered the tower in the ASR system and obtained a “no hazard” letter from the FAA. Fred Hopengarten, Esq. K1VR Six Willarch Road Lincoln, MA 01773 781.259.0088, k1vr@arrl.org <mailto:k1vr@arrl.org> New England Director Serving ME, NH, VT, MA, RI and CT From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of John Robert Stratton Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2019 11:01 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings Heads UP See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower... Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database. We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance. _______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office: 512-445-6262 Cell: 512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 _______________________________________ <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> www.avast.com
Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts. How did we miss this? Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members. 73Rick - K5UR -----Original Message----- From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings Heads UP See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower... Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database. We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance. <!-- #yiv1378838808 _filtered #yiv1378838808 {} _filtered #yiv1378838808 {} _filtered #yiv1378838808 {font-family:"Janson Text";} _filtered #yiv1378838808 {font-family:Copperplate;panose-1:2 0 5 4 0 0 0 2 0 4;} _filtered #yiv1378838808 {font-family:"Edwardian Script ITC";panose-1:3 3 3 2 4 7 7 13 8 4;} _filtered #yiv1378838808 {font-family:"Copperplate Gothic Bold";panose-1:2 14 7 5 2 2 6 2 4 4;} #yiv1378838808 #yiv1378838808 p.yiv1378838808MsoNormal, #yiv1378838808 li.yiv1378838808MsoNormal, #yiv1378838808 div.yiv1378838808MsoNormal {margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Janson Text";} #yiv1378838808 p.yiv1378838808MsoHeader, #yiv1378838808 li.yiv1378838808MsoHeader, #yiv1378838808 div.yiv1378838808MsoHeader {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Janson Text";} #yiv1378838808 p.yiv1378838808MsoFooter, #yiv1378838808 li.yiv1378838808MsoFooter, #yiv1378838808 div.yiv1378838808MsoFooter {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Janson Text";} #yiv1378838808 p.yiv1378838808JansonNormal, #yiv1378838808 li.yiv1378838808JansonNormal, #yiv1378838808 div.yiv1378838808JansonNormal {margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Janson Text";} #yiv1378838808 p.yiv1378838808Janson11, #yiv1378838808 li.yiv1378838808Janson11, #yiv1378838808 div.yiv1378838808Janson11 {margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Janson Text";} #yiv1378838808 span.yiv1378838808HeaderChar {font-family:"Janson Text";} #yiv1378838808 span.yiv1378838808FooterChar {font-family:"Janson Text";} #yiv1378838808 .yiv1378838808MsoChpDefault {font-family:Cambria;} #yiv1378838808 _filtered #yiv1378838808 {} _filtered #yiv1378838808 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in .3in;} #yiv1378838808 div.yiv1378838808WordSection1 {} --> _______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office: 512-445-6262 Cell: 512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 _______________________________________ _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
Agreed, We do need to get some good information out on this PDQ! Sounds like Fred is familiar with this sort of thing. 73 David A. Norris, K5UZ Director, Delta Division Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 9, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote:
Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts.
How did we miss this?
Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members.
73 Rick - K5UR
-----Original Message----- From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings
Heads UP
See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower...
Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database.
We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance.
_______________________________________
John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office: 512-445-6262 Cell: 512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232
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I agree. The misinterpretations can spread like wildfire... Ria N2RJ On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 12:44, Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote:
Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts.
How did we miss this?
Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members.
73 Rick - K5UR
-----Original Message----- From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings
Heads UP
See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower...
Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database.
We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance.
_______________________________________
John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office: 512-445-6262 Cell: 512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232
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Rick/All: Some additional background: This issue has been around since at least 2010 (and earlier in many states). Meteorological Evaluation Towers (METs) are deployed by energy companies to determine the suitability of an area for a wind turbine. These hastily erected towers are typically less than 200’ and so fall outside of the FAA notification requirements. There were several fatal accidents to agricultural aircraft (crop dusters) that prompted states to start enacting their own legislation requiring the marking of these towers even though Title 49 U.S.C., section 40103(a)(1), provides that the “United States Government has exclusive sovereignty of airspace of the United States”. Many states incorrectly interpreted FAA regulations to believe that the FAA did not regulate towers below 200’ and sought to remedy the situation themselves. Several (including Colorado in 2014) passed laws requiring the marking of METs. Colorado’s language includes the following language (which closely resembles other states’): (2) Where the appearance of a tower is not otherwise governed by state or federal law, rule, or regulation, any tower over fifty feet in height that is located outside the boundaries of an incorporated city or town on land that is primarily rural or undeveloped or used for agricultural purposes must be marked and painted or otherwise constructed to be visible in clear air during daylight hours from a distance of not less than two thousand feet. Towers must also comply with the following additional requirements: (a) A tower must be painted in equal alternating bands of aviation orange and white, beginning with orange at the top of the tower Of note here is the first sentence. Since ALL airspace and the towers therein are subject to Federal regulation, it could be argued that this Colorado legislation is preempted by US law. In 2011, the FAA issued a notice (2011-15746) with recommended guidance for the voluntary marking of METs erected in remote and rural areas that are less than 200’ AGL. This would lend weight to the argument that is within the purview of the federal, and not the state government. It appears that the present legislation seeks to strengthen the 2011 notice. It is certainly not the intent of the federal or state regulations to require marking of Amateur Radio towers, or any tower other than those used “for agricultural purposes” in rural / remote places. I think it is safe to say there is not a huge issue before us. If the worst impact is registering a tower that may fall into the narrow definition of the FAA regulation, that should not be a problem for us. As both a pilot and an Amateur Radio operator, I clearly see both sides of the this issue. 73, Jeff, K0RM From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 10:44 AM To: N5AUS@n5aus.com; arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org Subject: [arrl-odv:28290] Re: FAA & Tower Markings Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts. How did we miss this? Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members. 73 Rick - K5UR -----Original Message----- From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com <mailto:N5AUS@n5aus.com> > To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org <mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> > Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings Heads UP See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower... Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database. We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance. _______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office: 512-445-6262 Cell: 512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 _______________________________________ _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org <mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
I've asked Dan to work with Rick Lindquist to get the straight info out to the members ASAP. On 07/09/2019 12:44 PM, Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv wrote: Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts. How did we miss this? Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members. 73 Rick - K5UR -----Original Message----- From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com><mailto:N5AUS@n5aus.com> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org><mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings Heads UP See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower... Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database. We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance. _______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office: 512-445-6262 Cell: 512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 _______________________________________ _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv -- Howard E. Michel, WB2ITX Chief Executive Officer ARRL, The National Association for Amateur Radio® 225 Main Street, Newington, CT 06111-1494 USA Telephone: +1 860-594-0404 email: hmichel@arrl.org<mailto:hmichel@arrl.org>
Looks like this article is making the rounds on social media now, complete with the mass panic. Hopefully our article can help quell some of the anxiety. Ria N2RJ On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 18:13, Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org> wrote:
I've asked Dan to work with Rick Lindquist to get the straight info out to the members ASAP.
On 07/09/2019 12:44 PM, Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv wrote:
Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts.
How did we miss this?
Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members.
73 Rick - K5UR
-----Original Message----- From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings
Heads UP
See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower...
Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database.
We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance.
_______________________________________
John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office: 512-445-6262 Cell: 512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232
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-- Howard E. Michel, WB2ITX Chief Executive Officer ARRL, The National Association for Amateur Radio® 225 Main Street, Newington, CT 06111-1494 USA Telephone: +1 860-594-0404 email: hmichel@arrl.org
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http://www.arrl.org/news/view/faa-reauthorization-act-of-2018-overhauls-mark... -----Original Message----- From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of rjairam@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:46 PM To: Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:28332] Re: FAA & Tower Markings Looks like this article is making the rounds on social media now, complete with the mass panic. Hopefully our article can help quell some of the anxiety. Ria N2RJ On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 18:13, Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org> wrote:
I've asked Dan to work with Rick Lindquist to get the straight info out to the members ASAP.
On 07/09/2019 12:44 PM, Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv wrote:
Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts.
How did we miss this?
Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members.
73 Rick - K5UR
-----Original Message----- From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings
Heads UP
See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower...
Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database.
We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance.
_______________________________________
John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office: 512-445-6262 Cell: 512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232
_______________________________________ _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
-- Howard E. Michel, WB2ITX Chief Executive Officer ARRL, The National Association for Amateur Radio® 225 Main Street, Newington, CT 06111-1494 USA Telephone: +1 860-594-0404 email: hmichel@arrl.org
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Is this info current? I am getting asked lots of questions now as it is spreading like wildfire. I would like to point to something from ARRL that says that we should not be too concerned, or that we should be concerned. My division newsletter goes out this evening. But I want to make sure the info is current and accurate. I can delay a day if need be. 73 Ria, N2RJ On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 16:03, Jeff Ryan <k0rm@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.arrl.org/news/view/faa-reauthorization-act-of-2018-overhauls-mark...
-----Original Message----- From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of rjairam@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:46 PM To: Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:28332] Re: FAA & Tower Markings
Looks like this article is making the rounds on social media now, complete with the mass panic. Hopefully our article can help quell some of the anxiety.
Ria N2RJ
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 18:13, Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org> wrote:
I've asked Dan to work with Rick Lindquist to get the straight info out to the members ASAP.
On 07/09/2019 12:44 PM, Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv wrote:
Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts.
How did we miss this?
Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members.
73 Rick - K5UR
-----Original Message----- From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings
Heads UP
See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower...
Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database.
We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance.
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Ria: The FAA Reauthorization Act was signed into law last fall. Nothing has changed. This act called for the FAA’s database to be ready a year after the law was enacted and we are approaching that date. This is the ‘current news’; the fact that towers which meet the criteria of last year’s law (METs) need to be entered into the database. You can certainly point to the story the League published last October after the law was passed. Last I heard, HQ was working on an update but I don’t have a timeline for if/when that might be made public. I am not an attorney, but my interpretation of everything I’ve read on the subject leads me to believe we should not be too concerned. 73, Jeff, K0RM From: rjairam@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:06 AM To: Jeff Ryan Cc: arrl-odv Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:28333] Re: FAA & Tower Markings Is this info current? I am getting asked lots of questions now as it is spreading like wildfire. I would like to point to something from ARRL that says that we should not be too concerned, or that we should be concerned. My division newsletter goes out this evening. But I want to make sure the info is current and accurate. I can delay a day if need be. 73 Ria, N2RJ On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 16:03, Jeff Ryan <k0rm@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.arrl.org/news/view/faa-reauthorization-act-of-2018-overhauls-mark...
-----Original Message----- From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of rjairam@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:46 PM To: Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:28332] Re: FAA & Tower Markings
Looks like this article is making the rounds on social media now, complete with the mass panic. Hopefully our article can help quell some of the anxiety.
Ria N2RJ
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 18:13, Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org> wrote:
I've asked Dan to work with Rick Lindquist to get the straight info out to the members ASAP.
On 07/09/2019 12:44 PM, Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv wrote:
Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts.
How did we miss this?
Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members.
73 Rick - K5UR
-----Original Message----- From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings
Heads UP
See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower...
Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database.
We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance.
_______________________________________
John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office: 512-445-6262 Cell: 512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232
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Bob Famiglio, K3RF -
Bud Hippisley -
David Norris -
Fred Hopengarten -
Jeff Ryan -
John Robert Stratton -
k5ur＠aol.com -
Mark J Tharp -
Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) -
rjairam＠gmail.com