[arrl-odv:29472] Missing committee reports
Or, perhaps they are listed in another place. I don't find the ARISS report, HF Band planning report, Legal Structure review report, or Legislative Advocacy committee report available to members. They are all behind the ODV firewall, but not listed like all the others. Mark, HDX http://www.arrl.org/committee-reports
Dear Mark, The Legal Structure Review Committee never submitted a report. We were asked not to post the HF Band Planning Committee report yet because the committee had to make some edits to it. The report of the Legislative Advocacy Committee is not posted to the public because reports referring to legal matters have always been Board confidential to my knowledge, and I was told last July this report falls under that category. The ARISS Committee is a new committee, and I do not have the authorization to make documents public, so I need a directive to do that. Respectfully, Carla From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Mark J Tharp Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 3:51 PM To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:29472] Missing committee reports Or, perhaps they are listed in another place. I don't find the ARISS report, HF Band planning report, Legal Structure review report, or Legislative Advocacy committee report available to members. They are all behind the ODV firewall, but not listed like all the others. Mark, HDX http://www.arrl.org/committee-reports
Roger that Carla. Thanks. Mark, HDX On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 1:34 PM Pereira, Carla, KC1HSX <cpereira@arrl.org> wrote:
Dear Mark,
The Legal Structure Review Committee never submitted a report.
We were asked not to post the HF Band Planning Committee report yet because the committee had to make some edits to it.
The report of the Legislative Advocacy Committee is not posted to the public because reports referring to legal matters have always been Board confidential to my knowledge, and I was told last July this report falls under that category.
The ARISS Committee is a new committee, and I do not have the authorization to make documents public, so I need a directive to do that.
Respectfully,
Carla
*From:* arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> * On Behalf Of *Mark J Tharp *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 3:51 PM *To:* arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> *Subject:* [arrl-odv:29472] Missing committee reports
Or, perhaps they are listed in another place.
I don't find the ARISS report, HF Band planning report, Legal Structure review report, or Legislative Advocacy committee report available to members.
They are all behind the ODV firewall, but not listed like all the others.
Mark, HDX
Looks like there has been a "stumble". I see the E&E Committee Report, which was clearly labeled "Board Confidential", is posted for access by all ! Rod, K0DAS On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 2:46 PM Mark J Tharp <kb7hdx@gmail.com> wrote:
Or, perhaps they are listed in another place.
I don't find the ARISS report, HF Band planning report, Legal Structure review report, or Legislative Advocacy committee report available to members.
They are all behind the ODV firewall, but not listed like all the others.
Mark, HDX
http://www.arrl.org/committee-reports
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Rod: We will take this one down immediately. However, the E&E Committee report has historically been posted and this one was the first in quite some time that was labeled as “Board Confidential”. As I read through it just now I realized why that was likely the case as individual names and call signs were included in reporting on various matters raised before the Committee. I would suggest, so that the appearance of transparency may continue without providing detail personal information, that names and specifics of matters adjudicated by the Committee not be reported. Rather the generic issue and possibly the relevant Division or Section only be included in the report. Specifics can be included in the Chair’s oral remarks on the report if it is removed from the Consent Agenda. I apologize for the staff missing this one. 73, Barry, N1VXY From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Rod Blocksome Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:35 PM To: Tharp, Mark, KB7HDX (VD, NW) <kb7hdx@gmail.com> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:29474] Re: Missing committee reports Looks like there has been a "stumble". I see the E&E Committee Report, which was clearly labeled "Board Confidential", is posted for access by all ! Rod, K0DAS On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 2:46 PM Mark J Tharp <kb7hdx@gmail.com<mailto:kb7hdx@gmail.com>> wrote: Or, perhaps they are listed in another place. I don't find the ARISS report, HF Band planning report, Legal Structure review report, or Legislative Advocacy committee report available to members. They are all behind the ODV firewall, but not listed like all the others. Mark, HDX http://www.arrl.org/committee-reports _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
I agree. A redacted report would be better for public consumption. 73 Ria, N2RJ On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:48 PM Shelley, Barry, N1VXY (CEO) < bshelley@arrl.org> wrote:
Rod:
We will take this one down immediately. However, the E&E Committee report has historically been posted and this one was the first in quite some time that was labeled as “Board Confidential”. As I read through it just now I realized why that was likely the case as individual names and call signs were included in reporting on various matters raised before the Committee. I would suggest, so that the appearance of transparency may continue without providing detail personal information, that names and specifics of matters adjudicated by the Committee not be reported. Rather the generic issue and possibly the relevant Division or Section only be included in the report. Specifics can be included in the Chair’s oral remarks on the report if it is removed from the Consent Agenda.
I apologize for the staff missing this one.
73,
Barry, N1VXY
*From:* arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> * On Behalf Of *Rod Blocksome *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:35 PM *To:* Tharp, Mark, KB7HDX (VD, NW) <kb7hdx@gmail.com> *Cc:* arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> *Subject:* [arrl-odv:29474] Re: Missing committee reports
Looks like there has been a "stumble".
I see the E&E Committee Report, which was clearly labeled "Board Confidential", is posted for access by all !
Rod, K0DAS
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 2:46 PM Mark J Tharp <kb7hdx@gmail.com> wrote:
Or, perhaps they are listed in another place.
I don't find the ARISS report, HF Band planning report, Legal Structure review report, or Legislative Advocacy committee report available to members.
They are all behind the ODV firewall, but not listed like all the others.
Mark, HDX
http://www.arrl.org/committee-reports
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Transparency is important in a membership-driven culture, which the ARRL must continue to be, and to convince our members that we are, with all actions. I believe that everyone, including members who file complaints, should be accountable for their statements in the public eye. I therefore believe that all ethics complaints, investigations and results that are not accusations of a prurient or criminal nature should be made public. Items regarding by-laws or rule violations only should specifically be published, along with findings of the E&E or full Board, or the current investigatory status if unresolved. Otherwise, our membership may continue to believe that we are not transparent and have doubts about the validity of our decisions. Mickey Baker, N4MB Palm Beach Gardens, FL *“The servant-leader is servant first… It begins with the natural feeling that one wants to serve, to serve first. Then conscious choice brings one to aspire to lead." Robert K. Greenleaf* On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:48 PM Shelley, Barry, N1VXY (CEO) < bshelley@arrl.org> wrote:
Rod:
We will take this one down immediately. However, the E&E Committee report has historically been posted and this one was the first in quite some time that was labeled as “Board Confidential”. As I read through it just now I realized why that was likely the case as individual names and call signs were included in reporting on various matters raised before the Committee. I would suggest, so that the appearance of transparency may continue without providing detail personal information, that names and specifics of matters adjudicated by the Committee not be reported. Rather the generic issue and possibly the relevant Division or Section only be included in the report. Specifics can be included in the Chair’s oral remarks on the report if it is removed from the Consent Agenda.
I apologize for the staff missing this one.
73,
Barry, N1VXY
*From:* arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> * On Behalf Of *Rod Blocksome *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:35 PM *To:* Tharp, Mark, KB7HDX (VD, NW) <kb7hdx@gmail.com> *Cc:* arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> *Subject:* [arrl-odv:29474] Re: Missing committee reports
Looks like there has been a "stumble".
I see the E&E Committee Report, which was clearly labeled "Board Confidential", is posted for access by all !
Rod, K0DAS
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 2:46 PM Mark J Tharp <kb7hdx@gmail.com> wrote:
Or, perhaps they are listed in another place.
I don't find the ARISS report, HF Band planning report, Legal Structure review report, or Legislative Advocacy committee report available to members.
They are all behind the ODV firewall, but not listed like all the others.
Mark, HDX
http://www.arrl.org/committee-reports
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Hello Barry and Rod - Are we posting a redacted E&E report or simply not publishing one? Unfortunately some members have seen the report and the fact that it was taken down and now suspect that we are hiding sometning. Ria N2RJ On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:48 PM Shelley, Barry, N1VXY (CEO) < bshelley@arrl.org> wrote:
Rod:
We will take this one down immediately. However, the E&E Committee report has historically been posted and this one was the first in quite some time that was labeled as “Board Confidential”. As I read through it just now I realized why that was likely the case as individual names and call signs were included in reporting on various matters raised before the Committee. I would suggest, so that the appearance of transparency may continue without providing detail personal information, that names and specifics of matters adjudicated by the Committee not be reported. Rather the generic issue and possibly the relevant Division or Section only be included in the report. Specifics can be included in the Chair’s oral remarks on the report if it is removed from the Consent Agenda.
I apologize for the staff missing this one.
73,
Barry, N1VXY
*From:* arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> * On Behalf Of *Rod Blocksome *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:35 PM *To:* Tharp, Mark, KB7HDX (VD, NW) <kb7hdx@gmail.com> *Cc:* arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> *Subject:* [arrl-odv:29474] Re: Missing committee reports
Looks like there has been a "stumble".
I see the E&E Committee Report, which was clearly labeled "Board Confidential", is posted for access by all !
Rod, K0DAS
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 2:46 PM Mark J Tharp <kb7hdx@gmail.com> wrote:
Or, perhaps they are listed in another place.
I don't find the ARISS report, HF Band planning report, Legal Structure review report, or Legislative Advocacy committee report available to members.
They are all behind the ODV firewall, but not listed like all the others.
Mark, HDX
http://www.arrl.org/committee-reports
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Ria: If the Committee wants to release a summarized version with the personal info taken out, we'll post it accordingly. Barry, N1VXY Sent from my Verizon Motorola Smartphone On Feb 11, 2020 6:55 AM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote: Hello Barry and Rod - Are we posting a redacted E&E report or simply not publishing one? Unfortunately some members have seen the report and the fact that it was taken down and now suspect that we are hiding sometning. Ria N2RJ On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:48 PM Shelley, Barry, N1VXY (CEO) <bshelley@arrl.org<mailto:bshelley@arrl.org>> wrote: Rod: We will take this one down immediately. However, the E&E Committee report has historically been posted and this one was the first in quite some time that was labeled as “Board Confidential”. As I read through it just now I realized why that was likely the case as individual names and call signs were included in reporting on various matters raised before the Committee. I would suggest, so that the appearance of transparency may continue without providing detail personal information, that names and specifics of matters adjudicated by the Committee not be reported. Rather the generic issue and possibly the relevant Division or Section only be included in the report. Specifics can be included in the Chair’s oral remarks on the report if it is removed from the Consent Agenda. I apologize for the staff missing this one. 73, Barry, N1VXY From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org>> On Behalf Of Rod Blocksome Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:35 PM To: Tharp, Mark, KB7HDX (VD, NW) <kb7hdx@gmail.com<mailto:kb7hdx@gmail.com>> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>> Subject: [arrl-odv:29474] Re: Missing committee reports Looks like there has been a "stumble". I see the E&E Committee Report, which was clearly labeled "Board Confidential", is posted for access by all ! Rod, K0DAS On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 2:46 PM Mark J Tharp <kb7hdx@gmail.com<mailto:kb7hdx@gmail.com>> wrote: Or, perhaps they are listed in another place. I don't find the ARISS report, HF Band planning report, Legal Structure review report, or Legislative Advocacy committee report available to members. They are all behind the ODV firewall, but not listed like all the others. Mark, HDX http://www.arrl.org/committee-reports _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
In the interest of transparency I would like to request that the committee do this. Thank you Ria N2RJ On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:01 AM Shelley, Barry, N1VXY (CEO) < bshelley@arrl.org> wrote:
Ria:
If the Committee wants to release a summarized version with the personal info taken out, we'll post it accordingly.
Barry, N1VXY
*Sent from my Verizon Motorola Smartphone* On Feb 11, 2020 6:55 AM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Barry and Rod -
Are we posting a redacted E&E report or simply not publishing one?
Unfortunately some members have seen the report and the fact that it was taken down and now suspect that we are hiding sometning.
Ria N2RJ
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:48 PM Shelley, Barry, N1VXY (CEO) < bshelley@arrl.org> wrote:
Rod:
We will take this one down immediately. However, the E&E Committee report has historically been posted and this one was the first in quite some time that was labeled as “Board Confidential”. As I read through it just now I realized why that was likely the case as individual names and call signs were included in reporting on various matters raised before the Committee. I would suggest, so that the appearance of transparency may continue without providing detail personal information, that names and specifics of matters adjudicated by the Committee not be reported. Rather the generic issue and possibly the relevant Division or Section only be included in the report. Specifics can be included in the Chair’s oral remarks on the report if it is removed from the Consent Agenda.
I apologize for the staff missing this one.
73,
Barry, N1VXY
*From:* arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> *On Behalf Of *Rod Blocksome *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:35 PM *To:* Tharp, Mark, KB7HDX (VD, NW) <kb7hdx@gmail.com> *Cc:* arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> *Subject:* [arrl-odv:29474] Re: Missing committee reports
Looks like there has been a "stumble".
I see the E&E Committee Report, which was clearly labeled "Board Confidential", is posted for access by all !
Rod, K0DAS
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 2:46 PM Mark J Tharp <kb7hdx@gmail.com> wrote:
Or, perhaps they are listed in another place.
I don't find the ARISS report, HF Band planning report, Legal Structure review report, or Legislative Advocacy committee report available to members.
They are all behind the ODV firewall, but not listed like all the others.
Mark, HDX
http://www.arrl.org/committee-reports
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Hello Mark The ARISS report was received in the A&F Committee and assuch is not reported in the minutes of the meeting. 73, Kermit W9XA On Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 2:46:45 PM CST, Mark J Tharp <kb7hdx@gmail.com> wrote: Or, perhaps they are listed in another place. I don't find the ARISS report, HF Band planning report, Legal Structure review report, or Legislative Advocacy committee report available to members. They are all behind the ODV firewall, but not listed like all the others. Mark, HDX http://www.arrl.org/committee-reports _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
Yes, but as it is it's own document, #26, I'm just curious as to why it could not be posted along side the other reports. As Carla stated, it is a new committee (well, a year old now) and as such she had no directive to post that report. I was asked where our report was, and could not find it for the member to read and that is what started this discussion, and my question. ?? Mark, HDX On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 7:10 PM Kermit Carlson <w9xa@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello Mark
The ARISS report was received in the A&F Committee and as such is not reported in the minutes of the meeting.
73, Kermit W9XA
On Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 2:46:45 PM CST, Mark J Tharp < kb7hdx@gmail.com> wrote:
Or, perhaps they are listed in another place.
I don't find the ARISS report, HF Band planning report, Legal Structure review report, or Legislative Advocacy committee report available to members.
They are all behind the ODV firewall, but not listed like all the others.
Mark, HDX
http://www.arrl.org/committee-reports
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Kermit Carlson -
Mark J Tharp -
Mickey Baker -
Pereira, Carla, KC1HSX -
rjairam＠gmail.com -
Rod Blocksome -
Shelley, Barry, N1VXY (CEO)