It is this very rhetoric that sows distrust in an organization. This rhetoric is more irresponsible than the preposterous allegation that A&F is conducting meetings in secret. We have a duty to guide and protect the ARRL. My view on the in person meeting was solidified last fall during the special board meeting. One of the board members was allowing unauthorized observers of the meeting and could be heard explaining the proceedings to the person or persons during one of the breaks. The unauthorized disclosure was both reckless and could have been harmful to the organization. The need to control the dissemination of some of the information that A&F presents or consumes is important. When you control physical access to a meeting then you can verify who has access to the information. As already demonstrated by the special board meeting, someone could be allowing unauthorized access to some of the organizations most sensitive information. For this very reason, I would not support a virtual meeting. 73, Brent N9BA From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> on behalf of N5AUS <N5AUS@n5aus.com> Date: Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 7:40 AM To: "vze18vwgu@verizon.net" <vze18vwgu@verizon.net> Cc: "arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org" <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:34723] Re: A&F Agenda I have raised this issue in the past. Starting with the EC in 2019 following the defeat of the egregious efforts to shield all Board activities from the scrutiny of both the Members and other Board Members it was decided that all Board Members - Directors and Vice-Directors - were entitled to both attend all Committee meetings and to speak to the matters before the respective Committee. That has been the rule, EXCEPT for A&F. It has insisted on conducting what amount to secret meetings by virtue of conducting meetings in locations that effectively prohibited the balance of this Board from attending. There have been discussions in some meetings in recent times that led to actions adverse to the interests of the League, the Members and good order. in a time when the League is facing millions in operational losses, the conceited insistence on remote in-person meetings costing thousands of dollars we don’t have and can’t justify is an affront to our Members and Donors. These effectively secret, financially irresponsible meetings need to cease. I second Vice President Raisbeck’s reasonable request - but I will extend his request to include that the remote meeting be cancelled and that A&F be bound by the operational rules of the other very important Standing Committees - it’s meetings be fully conducted by Zoom and the conceit of remote in-person meetings be ended. John Robert Stratton N5AUS West Gulf Division Director Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2023, at 6:02 AM, Mike Raisbeck via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote: Thanks Jeff. I'll review. While we're on the subject of the A&F, I want to bring up again a matter that I had brought up some weeks ago. Most of our standing committee meetings are viewable through Zoom. This one, arguably one of the most important meetings, other than the Board meeting itself, is not. As it turns out, I will not be able to make the trip to Denver this time around. So, lack of Zoom access certainly affects me. But I imaging it affects others as well. Perhaps a straw poll of the Board is in order here. How many Board members feel that this meeting should be remotely accessible? I'll vote yes, of course. I think it should. Anyone else ?? Thanks, Mike K1TWF On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 08:16:59 PM EDT, Ryan, Jeff, K0RM (Dir, RM) <k0rm@arrl.org> wrote: All: Attached. 73, Jeff, K0RM _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv

Directors are responsible for effective and legal aspects of League operations. Directors are not discharged from responsibility by membership, or lack of membership, on any certain committees. Directors are entitled to all League information to fulfill their obligations, and some of that information is revealed in committee meetings. I believe the League would benefit if all Directors (including those Directors called Vice Directors) had Internet or telephone access to committee meetings. However, I am not chairman of the A&F Committee, and do not control access. That function is covered by another individual. 73, Dick, N6AA On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 04:02:08 AM PDT, Mike Raisbeck via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote: Thanks  Jeff.  I'll review. While we're on the subject of the A&F, I want to bring up again a matter that I had brought up some weeks ago. Most of our standing committee meetings are viewable through Zoom.  This one, arguably one of the most important meetings, other than the Board meeting itself, is not. As it turns out, I will not be able to make the trip to Denver this time around.  So, lack of Zoom access certainly affects me.  But I imaging it affects others as well. Perhaps a straw poll of the Board is in order here.  How many Board members feel that this meeting should be remotely accessible? I'll vote yes, of course.  I think it should.  Anyone else ?? Thanks,MikeK1TWF  On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 08:16:59 PM EDT, Ryan, Jeff, K0RM (Dir, RM) <k0rm@arrl.org> wrote: All:   Attached.   73,   Jeff, K0RM _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv