[arrl-odv:23632] Dues increase

I have had several questions about A&F's involvement with a dues increase. Here is a brief summary. Even in 2013, members of the Board had begun discussing the inevitability of a dues increase. With the Centennial coming up in 2014, it clearly was not going to be a year to announce a dues increase, so everyone was spared having to think about it too deeply. As we began 2014, the need for a dues increase became more and more evident. In the first half of 2014, A&F had two subcommittees that began work on a dues increase and possible changes to life membership. There were brief reports by these groups included in the July Report of A&F, with further discussion at the July Board meeting, which may have been lost in the noise of the Convention. The dues study subcommittee developed scenarios for a $6 and a $10 increase, and these were presented at the November A&F meeting. Simultaneously, staff was developing the 2015-16 plan, and included a dues increase in the plan. At the November meeting, A&F voted to recommend the plan to the Board for acceptance at the upcoming January meeting. This is the plan which includes the $10 increase. A&F did discuss a smaller increase, but it was realized that this would mean coming back to the membership again in 2 or 3 years, and it was felt that taking our medicine all at once was preferable to multiple small sips. Of course, we will still not be able to wait another 10 years for the next increase. A&F also discussed life membership, and decided not to make any changes at this time, although since life membership is priced at a multiple of the current yearly dues, the price of life membership would necessarily rise, as well. Thus, in order to implement the dues increase, Dave sent out the necessary enabling changes to bylaws, enough ahead of time so they can be properly voted on at January's meeting. This probably wouldn't have taken people so much by surprise if the A&F Minutes from the November meeting had already been issued, but some situations conspired to delay their compilation. I will be working on the minutes and get them to the Board as soon as possible. I apologize that it was not sooner. No one likes the idea of a dues increase. The financial analysis that led to the current 2015-16 plan made it clear that we could not postpone an increase any further and still maintain a fiscally healthy organization. Most members I have talked to, and other Directors have told me this as well, understand that 10 years of no dues increase cannot continue, and many are even surprised that the increase would only be $10. Every now and then, the Board must take action that it knows will not be popular, but that is necessary for the health of the organization. Regretfully, this is one of those issues. 73, Greg, K0GW 2014 A&F Chair

Greg, Thanks for the quick reply. Some of us are simply needing supporting information to respond to the members when the subject comes up. I am currently working up something to present to Delta Division informing them of the proposal and giving a concise rationale with the opportunity to respond. Thanks again! 73 David A. Norris, K5UZ Director Delta Division Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:43 AM, G Widin <gpwidin@comcast.net> wrote:
I have had several questions about A&F's involvement with a dues increase. Here is a brief summary.
Even in 2013, members of the Board had begun discussing the inevitability of a dues increase. With the Centennial coming up in 2014, it clearly was not going to be a year to announce a dues increase, so everyone was spared having to think about it too deeply.
As we began 2014, the need for a dues increase became more and more evident. In the first half of 2014, A&F had two subcommittees that began work on a dues increase and possible changes to life membership. There were brief reports by these groups included in the July Report of A&F, with further discussion at the July Board meeting, which may have been lost in the noise of the Convention. The dues study subcommittee developed scenarios for a $6 and a $10 increase, and these were presented at the November A&F meeting. Simultaneously, staff was developing the 2015-16 plan, and included a dues increase in the plan. At the November meeting, A&F voted to recommend the plan to the Board for acceptance at the upcoming January meeting. This is the plan which includes the $10 increase. A&F did discuss a smaller increase, but it was realized that this would mean coming back to the membership again in 2 or 3 years, and it was felt that taking our medicine all at once was preferable to multiple small sips. Of course, we will still not be able to wait another 10 years for the next increase. A&F also discussed life membership, and decided not to make any changes at this time, although since life membership is priced at a multiple of the current yearly dues, the price of life membership would necessarily rise, as well.
Thus, in order to implement the dues increase, Dave sent out the necessary enabling changes to bylaws, enough ahead of time so they can be properly voted on at January's meeting. This probably wouldn't have taken people so much by surprise if the A&F Minutes from the November meeting had already been issued, but some situations conspired to delay their compilation. I will be working on the minutes and get them to the Board as soon as possible. I apologize that it was not sooner.
No one likes the idea of a dues increase. The financial analysis that led to the current 2015-16 plan made it clear that we could not postpone an increase any further and still maintain a fiscally healthy organization. Most members I have talked to, and other Directors have told me this as well, understand that 10 years of no dues increase cannot continue, and many are even surprised that the increase would only be $10.
Every now and then, the Board must take action that it knows will not be popular, but that is necessary for the health of the organization. Regretfully, this is one of those issues. 73, Greg, K0GW 2014 A&F Chair _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv

Greg, what will be the proposed or anticipated effective date of the dues increase? Marty N6VI

Marty, see page 9 of the 2015-16 Plan that Barry distributed to ODV last Thursday. The proposed date is July 1, 2015. With a decision made in January it cannot be implemented any earlier than that. Dave K1ZZ From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Woll, Marty, N6VI Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:40 AM To: 'G Widin'; arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:23634] Re: Dues increase Greg, what will be the proposed or anticipated effective date of the dues increase? Marty N6VI

Marty, On page 9 of the plan, it states that the effective date is July 1, 2015 73, Greg, K0GW On Thursday, December 18, 2014, Marty Woll <n6vi@socal.rr.com> wrote:
Greg, what will be the proposed or anticipated effective date of the dues increase?
Marty N6VI

Greg, Was any consideration given to a tiered dues structure with value added as an incentive for paying in additional monies? By the way, I’ve raised the issue of a dues increase at a few club meetings and have not met with any real resistance, however, I assume that will change when the reality sets in. 73 de Mike N2YBB From: G Widin Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:43 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:23632] Dues increase I have had several questions about A&F's involvement with a dues increase. Here is a brief summary. Even in 2013, members of the Board had begun discussing the inevitability of a dues increase. With the Centennial coming up in 2014, it clearly was not going to be a year to announce a dues increase, so everyone was spared having to think about it too deeply. As we began 2014, the need for a dues increase became more and more evident. In the first half of 2014, A&F had two subcommittees that began work on a dues increase and possible changes to life membership. There were brief reports by these groups included in the July Report of A&F, with further discussion at the July Board meeting, which may have been lost in the noise of the Convention. The dues study subcommittee developed scenarios for a $6 and a $10 increase, and these were presented at the November A&F meeting. Simultaneously, staff was developing the 2015-16 plan, and included a dues increase in the plan. At the November meeting, A&F voted to recommend the plan to the Board for acceptance at the upcoming January meeting. This is the plan which includes the $10 increase. A&F did discuss a smaller increase, but it was realized that this would mean coming back to the membership again in 2 or 3 years, and it was felt that taking our medicine all at once was preferable to multiple small sips. Of course, we will still not be able to wait another 10 years for the next increase. A&F also discussed life membership, and decided not to make any changes at this time, although since life membership is priced at a multiple of the current yearly dues, the price of life membership would necessarily rise, as well. Thus, in order to implement the dues increase, Dave sent out the necessary enabling changes to bylaws, enough ahead of time so they can be properly voted on at January's meeting. This probably wouldn't have taken people so much by surprise if the A&F Minutes from the November meeting had already been issued, but some situations conspired to delay their compilation. I will be working on the minutes and get them to the Board as soon as possible. I apologize that it was not sooner. No one likes the idea of a dues increase. The financial analysis that led to the current 2015-16 plan made it clear that we could not postpone an increase any further and still maintain a fiscally healthy organization. Most members I have talked to, and other Directors have told me this as well, understand that 10 years of no dues increase cannot continue, and many are even surprised that the increase would only be $10. Every now and then, the Board must take action that it knows will not be popular, but that is necessary for the health of the organization. Regretfully, this is one of those issues. 73, Greg, K0GW 2014 A&F Chair -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv

Mike, At least in the A&F session, tiered dues was not discussed. I would summarize the attitude of staff and the committee as leaning toward simpler dues structure, rather than adding options. That doesn't mean that a proposal can't be considered, just that it wasn't. 73, Greg, K0GW On Thursday, December 18, 2014, Mike Lisenco N2YBB <n2ybb@arrl.org> wrote:
Greg,
Was any consideration given to a tiered dues structure with value added as an incentive for paying in additional monies?
By the way, I’ve raised the issue of a dues increase at a few club meetings and have not met with any real resistance, however, I assume that will change when the reality sets in.
73 de Mike N2YBB
*From:* G Widin <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gpwidin@comcast.net');> *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:43 AM *To:* arrl-odv <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','arrl-odv@arrl.org');> *Subject:* [arrl-odv:23632] Dues increase
I have had several questions about A&F's involvement with a dues increase. Here is a brief summary.
Even in 2013, members of the Board had begun discussing the inevitability of a dues increase. With the Centennial coming up in 2014, it clearly was not going to be a year to announce a dues increase, so everyone was spared having to think about it too deeply.
As we began 2014, the need for a dues increase became more and more evident. In the first half of 2014, A&F had two subcommittees that began work on a dues increase and possible changes to life membership. There were brief reports by these groups included in the July Report of A&F, with further discussion at the July Board meeting, which may have been lost in the noise of the Convention. The dues study subcommittee developed scenarios for a $6 and a $10 increase, and these were presented at the November A&F meeting. Simultaneously, staff was developing the 2015-16 plan, and included a dues increase in the plan. At the November meeting, A&F voted to recommend the plan to the Board for acceptance at the upcoming January meeting. This is the plan which includes the $10 increase. A&F did discuss a smaller increase, but it was realized that this would mean coming back to the membership again in 2 or 3 years, and it was felt that taking our medicine all at once was preferable to multiple small sips. Of course, we will still not be able to wait another 10 years for the next increase. A&F also discussed life membership, and decided not to make any changes at this time, although since life membership is priced at a multiple of the current yearly dues, the price of life membership would necessarily rise, as well.
Thus, in order to implement the dues increase, Dave sent out the necessary enabling changes to bylaws, enough ahead of time so they can be properly voted on at January's meeting. This probably wouldn't have taken people so much by surprise if the A&F Minutes from the November meeting had already been issued, but some situations conspired to delay their compilation. I will be working on the minutes and get them to the Board as soon as possible. I apologize that it was not sooner.
No one likes the idea of a dues increase. The financial analysis that led to the current 2015-16 plan made it clear that we could not postpone an increase any further and still maintain a fiscally healthy organization. Most members I have talked to, and other Directors have told me this as well, understand that 10 years of no dues increase cannot continue, and many are even surprised that the increase would only be $10.
Every now and then, the Board must take action that it knows will not be popular, but that is necessary for the health of the organization. Regretfully, this is one of those issues. 73, Greg, K0GW 2014 A&F Chair
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Mike, we already practice a la carte pricing of a number of services: for example, the outgoing QSL service, LoTW credits, operating awards, and vanity license renewal. The Diamond Club offers tiers with progressively greater benefits although those tiers begin higher than you probably had in mind. Other national societies generally have much higher dues, especially if they do less a la carte pricing. For example, DARC dues are 96 Euros per year or about $120 which includes the use of their very expensive QSL service. 73, Dave K1ZZ From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Lisenco, Mike (DIR, Hudson) Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:47 AM To: G Widin; arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:23636] Re: Dues increase Greg, Was any consideration given to a tiered dues structure with value added as an incentive for paying in additional monies? By the way, I’ve raised the issue of a dues increase at a few club meetings and have not met with any real resistance, however, I assume that will change when the reality sets in. 73 de Mike N2YBB From: G Widin<mailto:gpwidin@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:43 AM To: arrl-odv<mailto:arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:23632] Dues increase I have had several questions about A&F's involvement with a dues increase. Here is a brief summary. Even in 2013, members of the Board had begun discussing the inevitability of a dues increase. With the Centennial coming up in 2014, it clearly was not going to be a year to announce a dues increase, so everyone was spared having to think about it too deeply. As we began 2014, the need for a dues increase became more and more evident. In the first half of 2014, A&F had two subcommittees that began work on a dues increase and possible changes to life membership. There were brief reports by these groups included in the July Report of A&F, with further discussion at the July Board meeting, which may have been lost in the noise of the Convention. The dues study subcommittee developed scenarios for a $6 and a $10 increase, and these were presented at the November A&F meeting. Simultaneously, staff was developing the 2015-16 plan, and included a dues increase in the plan. At the November meeting, A&F voted to recommend the plan to the Board for acceptance at the upcoming January meeting. This is the plan which includes the $10 increase. A&F did discuss a smaller increase, but it was realized that this would mean coming back to the membership again in 2 or 3 years, and it was felt that taking our medicine all at once was preferable to multiple small sips. Of course, we will still not be able to wait another 10 years for the next increase. A&F also discussed life membership, and decided not to make any changes at this time, although since life membership is priced at a multiple of the current yearly dues, the price of life membership would necessarily rise, as well. Thus, in order to implement the dues increase, Dave sent out the necessary enabling changes to bylaws, enough ahead of time so they can be properly voted on at January's meeting. This probably wouldn't have taken people so much by surprise if the A&F Minutes from the November meeting had already been issued, but some situations conspired to delay their compilation. I will be working on the minutes and get them to the Board as soon as possible. I apologize that it was not sooner. No one likes the idea of a dues increase. The financial analysis that led to the current 2015-16 plan made it clear that we could not postpone an increase any further and still maintain a fiscally healthy organization. Most members I have talked to, and other Directors have told me this as well, understand that 10 years of no dues increase cannot continue, and many are even surprised that the increase would only be $10. Every now and then, the Board must take action that it knows will not be popular, but that is necessary for the health of the organization. Regretfully, this is one of those issues. 73, Greg, K0GW 2014 A&F Chair ________________________________ _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv

Hi Dave, Yes, I’m aware of the Diamond Club. However, participation in the Diamond Club amounts to 1% of the total membership. I would suggest a structured, tiered membership fee, similar to the Diamond Club, but allowing for a basic membership fee of (let’s say) $45 with no value added, but then a “Bronze” level at $5.00 over the Basic level, a “Gold level” at $10 over the basic, and a “Platinum level” at $15.00 over then basic. Each level above the Basic would have value added similar to the Diamond Club but structured as dues and not as donations. The Diamond Club could continue as a donation program geared primarily geared towards “Life Members” who typically stop paying in once they have fulfilled their membership fees. A structure of tiers will also take the sting out of a dues increase as it allows for those on a fixed income to maintain their membership at a slightly lower rate than others. Membership dues should also tie into the cost-of-living to allow us to periodically raise dues incrementally to keep up with the rate of inflation. As to a la carte pricing, I am not suggesting that stop. We obviously need to continue to charge for LoTW, DXCC, Outgoing QSL Service, etc. However, we could offer discounts to valued members for League programs, discounts to books, awards, etc. as we do now in the Diamond Club, but to perhaps a lesser degree. As it stands now, we typically give something to a lapsed member after we’ve reached out to them a few times to renew. This is costly and I believe a money loser for us. We should stop this this practice. Incentives through a tiered membership should be the only offer that a lapsed member would have. An across the board increase of $10 might secure enough funds to get us by at the moment, but I think it’s short-sighted. For what it’s worth, in my opinion a bigger picture approach would provide us with more financial security in the future. 73 de Mike N2YBB From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:22 AM To: Lisenco, Mike (DIR, Hudson) ; G Widin ; arrl-odv Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:23636] Re: Dues increase Mike, we already practice a la carte pricing of a number of services: for example, the outgoing QSL service, LoTW credits, operating awards, and vanity license renewal. The Diamond Club offers tiers with progressively greater benefits although those tiers begin higher than you probably had in mind. Other national societies generally have much higher dues, especially if they do less a la carte pricing. For example, DARC dues are 96 Euros per year or about $120 which includes the use of their very expensive QSL service. 73, Dave K1ZZ From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Lisenco, Mike (DIR, Hudson) Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:47 AM To: G Widin; arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:23636] Re: Dues increase Greg, Was any consideration given to a tiered dues structure with value added as an incentive for paying in additional monies? By the way, I’ve raised the issue of a dues increase at a few club meetings and have not met with any real resistance, however, I assume that will change when the reality sets in. 73 de Mike N2YBB From: G Widin Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:43 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:23632] Dues increase I have had several questions about A&F's involvement with a dues increase. Here is a brief summary. Even in 2013, members of the Board had begun discussing the inevitability of a dues increase. With the Centennial coming up in 2014, it clearly was not going to be a year to announce a dues increase, so everyone was spared having to think about it too deeply. As we began 2014, the need for a dues increase became more and more evident. In the first half of 2014, A&F had two subcommittees that began work on a dues increase and possible changes to life membership. There were brief reports by these groups included in the July Report of A&F, with further discussion at the July Board meeting, which may have been lost in the noise of the Convention. The dues study subcommittee developed scenarios for a $6 and a $10 increase, and these were presented at the November A&F meeting. Simultaneously, staff was developing the 2015-16 plan, and included a dues increase in the plan. At the November meeting, A&F voted to recommend the plan to the Board for acceptance at the upcoming January meeting. This is the plan which includes the $10 increase. A&F did discuss a smaller increase, but it was realized that this would mean coming back to the membership again in 2 or 3 years, and it was felt that taking our medicine all at once was preferable to multiple small sips. Of course, we will still not be able to wait another 10 years for the next increase. A&F also discussed life membership, and decided not to make any changes at this time, although since life membership is priced at a multiple of the current yearly dues, the price of life membership would necessarily rise, as well. Thus, in order to implement the dues increase, Dave sent out the necessary enabling changes to bylaws, enough ahead of time so they can be properly voted on at January's meeting. This probably wouldn't have taken people so much by surprise if the A&F Minutes from the November meeting had already been issued, but some situations conspired to delay their compilation. I will be working on the minutes and get them to the Board as soon as possible. I apologize that it was not sooner. No one likes the idea of a dues increase. The financial analysis that led to the current 2015-16 plan made it clear that we could not postpone an increase any further and still maintain a fiscally healthy organization. Most members I have talked to, and other Directors have told me this as well, understand that 10 years of no dues increase cannot continue, and many are even surprised that the increase would only be $10. Every now and then, the Board must take action that it knows will not be popular, but that is necessary for the health of the organization. Regretfully, this is one of those issues. 73, Greg, K0GW 2014 A&F Chair -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv

We need to look at the bigger picture and act taking more into consideration than making a onetime 25.6% dues jump. If we need to reach $49, I believe the more prudent way to do so would be graduated increases over multiple years that the members are forewarned about. Obviously we can’t continue to operate at a loss. That leaves us one of two ways, or a combination of both, to balance the budget: increase revenue or decrease expenditures. While a prolonged zero based budgeting exercise might identify some minor savings, I don’t think it is in the realm of reality that we could trim here and there to balance the budget. I also don’t think we want to wholesale cut any current programs. A dues increase is an easy way to raise revenue, albeit at the expense of some number of members. It is however not the only way to increase revenue. Sales of advertising contributes substantially to the League’s income. We need to look beyond the traditional direct amateur related advertisers and start seeking out advertisers offering things that our demographic would be interested in. Among the ranks of amateurs are many tinkerers and builders. Harbor Freight advertises in the various NRA monthly magazines as they realize a sizeable percentage of NRA members are tinkerers and builders; they would be a good candidate for QST advertising. Another way to raise revenue is to increase the number of members. While we have had some growth each year, hidden by those increases is that we lose a significant percentage of members each year that don’t renew. They are replaced with new members. If we retained a much larger percentage of members year to year, our growth would be much greater. Bylaw 4 allows for multi-year dues discounts up to five years. I’ve only seen 1, 2, and 3 year options currently being offered. Have we recently done a study to see if one means of increasing member retention would be to push the multi-year renewals, all the way up to 5 years, much more aggressively? One of our significant expenses is printing and shipping of QST. Have we ever done a study that determines the savings in printing/shipping costs versus the loss in advertising dollars from print QST (due to the decreased circulation)? Of course that should also have some positive offset in the readership of Digital QST and therefore some increase in advertising revenue from it. Perhaps there is some percentage discount that can be given for not receiving print QST that would result in cost savings and increase member retention? I want to see all research and reports (not just short summaries) on all of the above that might exist. I understand that we have A&F to sort thru things and make recommendations, but I have a fiduciary duty to the corporation as well as a duty owed to my members to personally review the information and make my own decision. Unless and until I am satisfied that we have done more than simply compute that we can tax our members additional membership dues to balance the budget, I will vote no on any dues increase. 73, Doug K4AC From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of G Widin Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:44 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:23632] Dues increase I have had several questions about A&F's involvement with a dues increase. Here is a brief summary. Even in 2013, members of the Board had begun discussing the inevitability of a dues increase. With the Centennial coming up in 2014, it clearly was not going to be a year to announce a dues increase, so everyone was spared having to think about it too deeply. As we began 2014, the need for a dues increase became more and more evident. In the first half of 2014, A&F had two subcommittees that began work on a dues increase and possible changes to life membership. There were brief reports by these groups included in the July Report of A&F, with further discussion at the July Board meeting, which may have been lost in the noise of the Convention. The dues study subcommittee developed scenarios for a $6 and a $10 increase, and these were presented at the November A&F meeting. Simultaneously, staff was developing the 2015-16 plan, and included a dues increase in the plan. At the November meeting, A&F voted to recommend the plan to the Board for acceptance at the upcoming January meeting. This is the plan which includes the $10 increase. A&F did discuss a smaller increase, but it was realized that this would mean coming back to the membership again in 2 or 3 years, and it was felt that taking our medicine all at once was preferable to multiple small sips. Of course, we will still not be able to wait another 10 years for the next increase. A&F also discussed life membership, and decided not to make any changes at this time, although since life membership is priced at a multiple of the current yearly dues, the price of life membership would necessarily rise, as well. Thus, in order to implement the dues increase, Dave sent out the necessary enabling changes to bylaws, enough ahead of time so they can be properly voted on at January's meeting. This probably wouldn't have taken people so much by surprise if the A&F Minutes from the November meeting had already been issued, but some situations conspired to delay their compilation. I will be working on the minutes and get them to the Board as soon as possible. I apologize that it was not sooner. No one likes the idea of a dues increase. The financial analysis that led to the current 2015-16 plan made it clear that we could not postpone an increase any further and still maintain a fiscally healthy organization. Most members I have talked to, and other Directors have told me this as well, understand that 10 years of no dues increase cannot continue, and many are even surprised that the increase would only be $10. Every now and then, the Board must take action that it knows will not be popular, but that is necessary for the health of the organization. Regretfully, this is one of those issues. 73, Greg, K0GW 2014 A&F Chair
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David Norris
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Doug Rehman
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G Widin
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Marty Woll
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Mike Lisenco N2YBB
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Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ