[arrl-odv:28821] Fwd: Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Citizens Lawsuit Against 5G

Topanga Anti-Smart-Electric-Meter Lady expands quest to protect us from life-threatening radio waves - ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Liz, Peoples Initiative News <contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org> Date: Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:37 PM Subject: Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Citizens Lawsuit Against 5G Dear Friends, Due to the imminent threat 5G poses not just to us and all life on earth, but also to our democracy (5G will enable IoT, self driving cars, home surveillance in real time, etc., etc.), we are suing the FCC and also naming the ADA and Telecom Act which prohibits environmental effects from blocking antennas and towers but has been interpreted by governments and courts to also include health, meaning you cannot use health effects as reason to block a cell antenna or tower. This is despite the US National Toxicology Programs findings of clear evidence of statistically significant carcinogenic effects from wireless radiation emitting devices and infrastructure. The FCC and Telecom Act are basically mandating the exposure to a known carcinogen, neurotoxin and genotoxin. We believe this to me immoral let alone illegal. And so we are finally taking legal action against the FCC and Telecom Act. We also may be adding other violations to this suit. We have who we believe to be the #1 attorney in the US for blocking cell towers and antennas in the US (we have used him twice successfully to block towers in our area). But the really exciting news is that since this attorney is in NY and we are in California, we had to partner with a CA law firm, so we have partnered with none other than the law firm from the film Erin Brokovich! This is the firm that sued PG&E for poisoning families, lying to them about it and giving them cancer and they beat PG&E! Please watch our video from our Go Fund Me campaign for this lawsuit <https://default.salsalabs.org/T3c1e315a-eefc-40c6-9bb2-cdcf142ba9c6/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba> . I have also pasted it below in case there are any issues with the above Go Fund Me link. I KNOW we are going to win this lawsuit...we have assembled the absolute "dream team" of attorneys for this important legal action. Please donate to this lawsuit. Your donations are tax deductible to the fullest extent of the law, as we are a 501c3 non profit. We also do not take a salary at Peoples Initiative, so 100% of your donations will go directly to attorneys fees and our bank statements are an open book to any serious donor over $1000 who would like to look at them. Please spread this email and Go Fund Me Campaign far and wide! We need to and will WIN this lawsuit but not without your help! THANK YOU! www.gofundme.com/f/y6ca8t-suing-fcc-for-protection-from-5g <https://default.salsalabs.org/Ta62a79b8-1932-412e-bee0-a488259f25f6/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba> WHY ARE WE FUND RAISING FOR THIS LAWSUIT? WHY IS IT NOT ON CONTINGENCY? The difference with this lawsuit and the one from the Erin Brokovich film is that one was a toxic tort against a company for damages which was why the firm took the case on contingency, meaning no upfront money because the attorneys had a huge sum of money from PG&E they would collect if they won. This lawsuit we are bringing is in the interest of the public good, we are not suing a company for damages, we are just suing the FCC, ADA and challenging the Telecom Act to retain our basic rights to life and for the legal violations including Constitutional that 5G brings. However, the NY firm has agreed to slash their rates by nearly 50% in order for this to be feasible for us. We believe the Erin Brokovich firm will too when the time comes to speak about this, but the initial work at this moment is being done by us and the NY firm. Please know that ANY SIZE donation is welcome! Please do not think your donation is too small if it's only $5 or $25. It's not! We are grateful! Alternatively please do not think your donation is too large if it is over $50,000 or $100,000 as we are definitely seeking large donors, able to donate large amounts as this lawsuit may ultimately reach into the high 6 or even low seven figure. We are eternally grateful to you and please see our below statement on large donations. WILL I GET MY MONEY BACK IF WE WIN? We believe we are going to win this lawsuit and when we do, we expect to be reimbursed all attorneys fees and court costs from Defendants. It is our intent to refund all donations for this lawsuit over $500, if and when we win - which we believe we will...these attorneys won't even take lawsuits if they don't think they will win! However, there are lots of legalities involved in refunding you, including even our written statement on it. So if we win and if we are reimbursed our court costs and attorneys fees, which we believe we will be, in accordance with the amount we have been reimbursed and the amount you have donated, it is our intent to refund all donations over $500, notwithstanding any legalities. However, if you used your donation as a tax deduction, the possibility exists that there may also be legal ramifications for getting your money refunded, so please speak with a tax attorney about this prior to accepting any funds back from us after we win as there may be tax implications. You can also choose to allow us to keep the funds if we get them back after the lawsuit, to help further our work on this issue which includes ground breaking scientific studies on wireless radiation exposure and health effects <https://default.salsalabs.org/T2f7b7279-faf0-4936-baf2-1340d8177d79/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, lawsuits on this issue <https://default.salsalabs.org/T2ad164cc-dc72-4b35-9244-2fc23fb9cbc5/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, general informing of the public via videos <https://default.salsalabs.org/T873e6011-66f3-4a45-8b94-818dd8da7bf4/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, power point presentations and educating our legislative representatives <https://default.salsalabs.org/Te49c8381-5007-4e59-ac5b-9b349824530f/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba> on this issue. Thank you so much for your support of this lawsuit and your donation. Please give as generously as you can! We can do this but we need your support! With love and gratitude, Liz and All, *The Peoples Initiative Foundation* 101 S Topanga Canyon Blvd #586 | Topanga, California 90290 310-281-9639 | contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org Having trouble viewing this email? View it in your web browser <https://thepeoplesinitiativefoundation.salsalabs.org/erinbrokovichlawfirmjoinswirelessradiationlawsuit-a?wvpId=8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>

We just recently were upgraded to 3G here in rural Oregon. If they ever do get 5G out here I'll just buy a tin-foil hat. Hey, that might be a future marketing opportunity for the ARRL! ;-) 73; Mike W7VO
On October 3, 2019 at 1:56 PM "Richard J. Norton" <richardjnorton@gmail.com> wrote:
Topanga Anti-Smart-Electric-Meter Lady expands quest to protect us from life-threatening radio waves -
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Liz, Peoples Initiative News <contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org mailto:contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org > Date: Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:37 PM Subject: Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Citizens Lawsuit Against 5G
Dear Friends,
Due to the imminent threat 5G poses not just to us and all life on earth, but also to our democracy (5G will enable IoT, self driving cars, home surveillance in real time, etc., etc.), we are suing the FCC and also naming the ADA and Telecom Act which prohibits environmental effects from blocking antennas and towers but has been interpreted by governments and courts to also include health, meaning you cannot use health effects as reason to block a cell antenna or tower. This is despite the US National Toxicology Programs findings of clear evidence of statistically significant carcinogenic effects from wireless radiation emitting devices and infrastructure. The FCC and Telecom Act are basically mandating the exposure to a known carcinogen, neurotoxin and genotoxin. We believe this to me immoral let alone illegal. And so we are finally taking legal action against the FCC and Telecom Act. We also may be adding other violations to this suit.
We have who we believe to be the #1 attorney in the US for blocking cell towers and antennas in the US (we have used him twice successfully to block towers in our area). But the really exciting news is that since this attorney is in NY and we are in California, we had to partner with a CA law firm, so we have partnered with none other than the law firm from the film Erin Brokovich! This is the firm that sued PG&E for poisoning families, lying to them about it and giving them cancer and they beat PG&E!
Please watch our video from our Go Fund Me campaign for this lawsuit https://default.salsalabs.org/T3c1e315a-eefc-40c6-9bb2-cdcf142ba9c6/8ffcafc8... . I have also pasted it below in case there are any issues with the above Go Fund Me link. I KNOW we are going to win this lawsuit...we have assembled the absolute "dream team" of attorneys for this important legal action. Please donate to this lawsuit. Your donations are tax deductible to the fullest extent of the law, as we are a 501c3 non profit. We also do not take a salary at Peoples Initiative, so 100% of your donations will go directly to attorneys fees and our bank statements are an open book to any serious donor over $1000 who would like to look at them. Please spread this email and Go Fund Me Campaign far and wide! We need to and will WIN this lawsuit but not without your help! THANK YOU!
www.gofundme.com/f/y6ca8t-suing-fcc-for-protection-from-5g https://default.salsalabs.org/Ta62a79b8-1932-412e-bee0-a488259f25f6/8ffcafc8...
WHY ARE WE FUND RAISING FOR THIS LAWSUIT? WHY IS IT NOT ON CONTINGENCY?
The difference with this lawsuit and the one from the Erin Brokovich film is that one was a toxic tort against a company for damages which was why the firm took the case on contingency, meaning no upfront money because the attorneys had a huge sum of money from PG&E they would collect if they won. This lawsuit we are bringing is in the interest of the public good, we are not suing a company for damages, we are just suing the FCC, ADA and challenging the Telecom Act to retain our basic rights to life and for the legal violations including Constitutional that 5G brings. However, the NY firm has agreed to slash their rates by nearly 50% in order for this to be feasible for us. We believe the Erin Brokovich firm will too when the time comes to speak about this, but the initial work at this moment is being done by us and the NY firm. Please know that ANY SIZE donation is welcome! Please do not think your donation is too small if it's only $5 or $25. It's not! We are grateful! Alternatively please do not think your donation is too large if it is over $50,000 or $100,000 as we are definitely seeking large donors, able to donate large amounts as this lawsuit may ultimately reach into the high 6 or even low seven figure. We are eternally grateful to you and please see our below statement on large donations.
WILL I GET MY MONEY BACK IF WE WIN?
We believe we are going to win this lawsuit and when we do, we expect to be reimbursed all attorneys fees and court costs from Defendants. It is our intent to refund all donations for this lawsuit over $500, if and when we win - which we believe we will...these attorneys won't even take lawsuits if they don't think they will win! However, there are lots of legalities involved in refunding you, including even our written statement on it. So if we win and if we are reimbursed our court costs and attorneys fees, which we believe we will be, in accordance with the amount we have been reimbursed and the amount you have donated, it is our intent to refund all donations over $500, notwithstanding any legalities. However, if you used your donation as a tax deduction, the possibility exists that there may also be legal ramifications for getting your money refunded, so please speak with a tax attorney about this prior to accepting any funds back from us after we win as there may be tax implications. You can also choose to allow us to keep the funds if we get them back after the lawsuit, to help further our work on this issue which includes ground breaking scientific studies on wireless radiation exposure and health effects https://default.salsalabs.org/T2f7b7279-faf0-4936-baf2-1340d8177d79/8ffcafc8... , lawsuits on this issue https://default.salsalabs.org/T2ad164cc-dc72-4b35-9244-2fc23fb9cbc5/8ffcafc8... , general informing of the public via videos https://default.salsalabs.org/T873e6011-66f3-4a45-8b94-818dd8da7bf4/8ffcafc8... , power point presentations and educating our legislative representatives https://default.salsalabs.org/Te49c8381-5007-4e59-ac5b-9b349824530f/8ffcafc8... on this issue.
Thank you so much for your support of this lawsuit and your donation. Please give as generously as you can! We can do this but we need your support!
With love and gratitude,
Liz and All,
The Peoples Initiative Foundation 101 S Topanga Canyon Blvd #586 | Topanga, California 90290 310-281-9639 | contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org mailto:contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org
Having trouble viewing this email? View it in your web browser https://thepeoplesinitiativefoundation.salsalabs.org/erinbrokovichlawfirmjoi...
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Mike Merchandise is merchandise, profit is profit. If tulips are the rage, sell tulips. If it is tin foil, sell tin foil. :-) _______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office:512-445-6262 Cell:512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 *_______________________________________*** ** On 10/3/19 6:55 PM, Michael Ritz wrote:
We just recently were upgraded to 3G here in rural Oregon. If they ever do get 5G out here I'll just buy a tin-foil hat.
Hey, that might be a future marketing opportunity for the ARRL! ;-)
73;
Mike
W7VO
On October 3, 2019 at 1:56 PM "Richard J. Norton" <richardjnorton@gmail.com> wrote:
Topanga Anti-Smart-Electric-Meter Lady expands quest to protect us from life-threatening radio waves -
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: *Liz, Peoples Initiative News* <contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org <mailto:contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org>> Date: Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:37 PM Subject: Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Citizens Lawsuit Against 5G
Dear Friends,
Due to the imminent threat 5G poses not just to us and all life on earth, but also to our democracy (5G will enable IoT, self driving cars, home surveillance in real time, etc., etc.), we are suing the FCC and also naming the ADA and Telecom Act which prohibits environmental effects from blocking antennas and towers but has been interpreted by governments and courts to also include health, meaning you cannot use health effects as reason to block a cell antenna or tower. This is despite the US National Toxicology Programs findings of clear evidence of statistically significant carcinogenic effects from wireless radiation emitting devices and infrastructure. The FCC and Telecom Act are basically mandating the exposure to a known carcinogen, neurotoxin and genotoxin. We believe this to me immoral let alone illegal. And so we are finally taking legal action against the FCC and Telecom Act. We also may be adding other violations to this suit.
We have who we believe to be the #1 attorney in the US for blocking cell towers and antennas in the US (we have used him twice successfully to block towers in our area). But the really exciting news is that since this attorney is in NY and we are in California, we had to partner with a CA law firm, so we have partnered with none other than the law firm from the film Erin Brokovich! This is the firm that sued PG&E for poisoning families, lying to them about it and giving them cancer and they beat PG&E!
Please watch our video from our Go Fund Me campaign for this lawsuit <https://default.salsalabs.org/T3c1e315a-eefc-40c6-9bb2-cdcf142ba9c6/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>. I have also pasted it below in case there are any issues with the above Go Fund Me link. I KNOW we are going to win this lawsuit...we have assembled the absolute "dream team" of attorneys for this important legal action. Please donate to this lawsuit. Your donations are tax deductible to the fullest extent of the law, as we are a 501c3 non profit. We also do not take a salary at Peoples Initiative, so 100% of your donations will go directly to attorneys fees and our bank statements are an open book to any serious donor over $1000 who would like to look at them. Please spread this email and Go Fund Me Campaign far and wide! We need to and will WIN this lawsuit but not without your help! THANK YOU!
www.gofundme.com/f/y6ca8t-suing-fcc-for-protection-from-5g <https://default.salsalabs.org/Ta62a79b8-1932-412e-bee0-a488259f25f6/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>
WHY ARE WE FUND RAISING FOR THIS LAWSUIT? WHY IS IT NOT ON CONTINGENCY?
The difference with this lawsuit and the one from the Erin Brokovich film is that one was a toxic tort against a company for damages which was why the firm took the case on contingency, meaning no upfront money because the attorneys had a huge sum of money from PG&E they would collect if they won. This lawsuit we are bringing is in the interest of the public good, we are not suing a company for damages, we are just suing the FCC, ADA and challenging the Telecom Act to retain our basic rights to life and for the legal violations including Constitutional that 5G brings. However, the NY firm has agreed to slash their rates by nearly 50% in order for this to be feasible for us. We believe the Erin Brokovich firm will too when the time comes to speak about this, but the initial work at this moment is being done by us and the NY firm. Please know that ANY SIZE donation is welcome! Please do not think your donation is too small if it's only $5 or $25. It's not! We are grateful! Alternatively please do not think your donation is too large if it is over $50,000 or $100,000 as we are definitely seeking large donors, able to donate large amounts as this lawsuit may ultimately reach into the high 6 or even low seven figure. We are eternally grateful to you and please see our below statement on large donations.
WILL I GET MY MONEY BACK IF WE WIN?
We believe we are going to win this lawsuit and when we do, we expect to be reimbursed all attorneys fees and court costs from Defendants. It is our intent to refund all donations for this lawsuit over $500, if and when we win - which we believe we will...these attorneys won't even take lawsuits if they don't think they will win! However, there are lots of legalities involved in refunding you, including even our written statement on it. So if we win and if we are reimbursed our court costs and attorneys fees, which we believe we will be, in accordance with the amount we have been reimbursed and the amount you have donated, it is our intent to refund all donations over $500, notwithstanding any legalities. However, if you used your donation as a tax deduction, the possibility exists that there may also be legal ramifications for getting your money refunded, so please speak with a tax attorney about this prior to accepting any funds back from us after we win as there may be tax implications. You can also choose to allow us to keep the funds if we get them back after the lawsuit, to help further our work on this issue which includes ground breaking scientific studies on wireless radiation exposure and health effects <https://default.salsalabs.org/T2f7b7279-faf0-4936-baf2-1340d8177d79/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, lawsuits on this issue <https://default.salsalabs.org/T2ad164cc-dc72-4b35-9244-2fc23fb9cbc5/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, general informing of the public via videos <https://default.salsalabs.org/T873e6011-66f3-4a45-8b94-818dd8da7bf4/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, power point presentations and educating our legislative representatives <https://default.salsalabs.org/Te49c8381-5007-4e59-ac5b-9b349824530f/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba> on this issue.
Thank you so much for your support of this lawsuit and your donation. Please give as generously as you can! We can do this but we need your support!
With love and gratitude,
Liz and All,
*The Peoples Initiative Foundation* 101 S Topanga Canyon Blvd #586 | Topanga, California 90290 310-281-9639 | contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org <mailto:contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org>
Having trouble viewing this email? View it in your web browser <https://thepeoplesinitiativefoundation.salsalabs.org/erinbrokovichlawfirmjoinswirelessradiationlawsuit-a?wvpId=8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>
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So have the stars aligned and Dick Norton is now joining forces with Ted Rappaport? :) 73 Ria, N2RJ On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:57 PM Richard J. Norton <richardjnorton@gmail.com> wrote:
Topanga Anti-Smart-Electric-Meter Lady expands quest to protect us from life-threatening radio waves -
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Liz, Peoples Initiative News <contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org> Date: Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:37 PM Subject: Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Citizens Lawsuit Against 5G
Dear Friends,
Due to the imminent threat 5G poses not just to us and all life on earth, but also to our democracy (5G will enable IoT, self driving cars, home surveillance in real time, etc., etc.), we are suing the FCC and also naming the ADA and Telecom Act which prohibits environmental effects from blocking antennas and towers but has been interpreted by governments and courts to also include health, meaning you cannot use health effects as reason to block a cell antenna or tower. This is despite the US National Toxicology Programs findings of clear evidence of statistically significant carcinogenic effects from wireless radiation emitting devices and infrastructure. The FCC and Telecom Act are basically mandating the exposure to a known carcinogen, neurotoxin and genotoxin. We believe this to me immoral let alone illegal. And so we are finally taking legal action against the FCC and Telecom Act. We also may be adding other violations to this suit.
We have who we believe to be the #1 attorney in the US for blocking cell towers and antennas in the US (we have used him twice successfully to block towers in our area). But the really exciting news is that since this attorney is in NY and we are in California, we had to partner with a CA law firm, so we have partnered with none other than the law firm from the film Erin Brokovich! This is the firm that sued PG&E for poisoning families, lying to them about it and giving them cancer and they beat PG&E!
Please watch our video from our Go Fund Me campaign for this lawsuit <https://default.salsalabs.org/T3c1e315a-eefc-40c6-9bb2-cdcf142ba9c6/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba> . I have also pasted it below in case there are any issues with the above Go Fund Me link. I KNOW we are going to win this lawsuit...we have assembled the absolute "dream team" of attorneys for this important legal action. Please donate to this lawsuit. Your donations are tax deductible to the fullest extent of the law, as we are a 501c3 non profit. We also do not take a salary at Peoples Initiative, so 100% of your donations will go directly to attorneys fees and our bank statements are an open book to any serious donor over $1000 who would like to look at them. Please spread this email and Go Fund Me Campaign far and wide! We need to and will WIN this lawsuit but not without your help! THANK YOU!
www.gofundme.com/f/y6ca8t-suing-fcc-for-protection-from-5g <https://default.salsalabs.org/Ta62a79b8-1932-412e-bee0-a488259f25f6/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>
WHY ARE WE FUND RAISING FOR THIS LAWSUIT? WHY IS IT NOT ON CONTINGENCY?
The difference with this lawsuit and the one from the Erin Brokovich film is that one was a toxic tort against a company for damages which was why the firm took the case on contingency, meaning no upfront money because the attorneys had a huge sum of money from PG&E they would collect if they won. This lawsuit we are bringing is in the interest of the public good, we are not suing a company for damages, we are just suing the FCC, ADA and challenging the Telecom Act to retain our basic rights to life and for the legal violations including Constitutional that 5G brings. However, the NY firm has agreed to slash their rates by nearly 50% in order for this to be feasible for us. We believe the Erin Brokovich firm will too when the time comes to speak about this, but the initial work at this moment is being done by us and the NY firm. Please know that ANY SIZE donation is welcome! Please do not think your donation is too small if it's only $5 or $25. It's not! We are grateful! Alternatively please do not think your donation is too large if it is over $50,000 or $100,000 as we are definitely seeking large donors, able to donate large amounts as this lawsuit may ultimately reach into the high 6 or even low seven figure. We are eternally grateful to you and please see our below statement on large donations.
WILL I GET MY MONEY BACK IF WE WIN?
We believe we are going to win this lawsuit and when we do, we expect to be reimbursed all attorneys fees and court costs from Defendants. It is our intent to refund all donations for this lawsuit over $500, if and when we win - which we believe we will...these attorneys won't even take lawsuits if they don't think they will win! However, there are lots of legalities involved in refunding you, including even our written statement on it. So if we win and if we are reimbursed our court costs and attorneys fees, which we believe we will be, in accordance with the amount we have been reimbursed and the amount you have donated, it is our intent to refund all donations over $500, notwithstanding any legalities. However, if you used your donation as a tax deduction, the possibility exists that there may also be legal ramifications for getting your money refunded, so please speak with a tax attorney about this prior to accepting any funds back from us after we win as there may be tax implications. You can also choose to allow us to keep the funds if we get them back after the lawsuit, to help further our work on this issue which includes ground breaking scientific studies on wireless radiation exposure and health effects <https://default.salsalabs.org/T2f7b7279-faf0-4936-baf2-1340d8177d79/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, lawsuits on this issue <https://default.salsalabs.org/T2ad164cc-dc72-4b35-9244-2fc23fb9cbc5/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, general informing of the public via videos <https://default.salsalabs.org/T873e6011-66f3-4a45-8b94-818dd8da7bf4/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, power point presentations and educating our legislative representatives <https://default.salsalabs.org/Te49c8381-5007-4e59-ac5b-9b349824530f/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba> on this issue.
Thank you so much for your support of this lawsuit and your donation. Please give as generously as you can! We can do this but we need your support!
With love and gratitude,
Liz and All,
*The Peoples Initiative Foundation* 101 S Topanga Canyon Blvd #586 | Topanga, California 90290 310-281-9639 | contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org
Having trouble viewing this email? View it in your web browser <https://thepeoplesinitiativefoundation.salsalabs.org/erinbrokovichlawfirmjoinswirelessradiationlawsuit-a?wvpId=8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>
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No, Dick Norton firmly remains with the belief that Rappaport, the Topanga Anti-Smart-Meter Lady, anti-vaxers, and flat-earth believers all profess ideas that significantly diverge from reality. However, I hope we are all aware that some politicians are not knowledgeable about technical subjects such as Maxwell's equations, dark matter, or long division, and can be influenced by people like the Anti-Smart-Meter Lady. For example, see https://www.rrmediagroup.com/News/NewsDetails/NewsID/11890/ where a few years ago, Los Angeles bowed to pressure from them and scaled back a large communications system. We should and do pay attention to RF safety, and being knowledgeable about up-to-date safety information will aid our efforts to promote Amateur Radio. 73, Dick . On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 5:03 PM rjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com> wrote:
So have the stars aligned and Dick Norton is now joining forces with Ted Rappaport? :)
73 Ria, N2RJ
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:57 PM Richard J. Norton <richardjnorton@gmail.com> wrote:
Topanga Anti-Smart-Electric-Meter Lady expands quest to protect us from life-threatening radio waves -
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Liz, Peoples Initiative News <contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org> Date: Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:37 PM Subject: Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Citizens Lawsuit Against 5G
Dear Friends,
Due to the imminent threat 5G poses not just to us and all life on earth, but also to our democracy (5G will enable IoT, self driving cars, home surveillance in real time, etc., etc.), we are suing the FCC and also naming the ADA and Telecom Act which prohibits environmental effects from blocking antennas and towers but has been interpreted by governments and courts to also include health, meaning you cannot use health effects as reason to block a cell antenna or tower. This is despite the US National Toxicology Programs findings of clear evidence of statistically significant carcinogenic effects from wireless radiation emitting devices and infrastructure. The FCC and Telecom Act are basically mandating the exposure to a known carcinogen, neurotoxin and genotoxin. We believe this to me immoral let alone illegal. And so we are finally taking legal action against the FCC and Telecom Act. We also may be adding other violations to this suit.
We have who we believe to be the #1 attorney in the US for blocking cell towers and antennas in the US (we have used him twice successfully to block towers in our area). But the really exciting news is that since this attorney is in NY and we are in California, we had to partner with a CA law firm, so we have partnered with none other than the law firm from the film Erin Brokovich! This is the firm that sued PG&E for poisoning families, lying to them about it and giving them cancer and they beat PG&E!
Please watch our video from our Go Fund Me campaign for this lawsuit <https://default.salsalabs.org/T3c1e315a-eefc-40c6-9bb2-cdcf142ba9c6/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba> . I have also pasted it below in case there are any issues with the above Go Fund Me link. I KNOW we are going to win this lawsuit...we have assembled the absolute "dream team" of attorneys for this important legal action. Please donate to this lawsuit. Your donations are tax deductible to the fullest extent of the law, as we are a 501c3 non profit. We also do not take a salary at Peoples Initiative, so 100% of your donations will go directly to attorneys fees and our bank statements are an open book to any serious donor over $1000 who would like to look at them. Please spread this email and Go Fund Me Campaign far and wide! We need to and will WIN this lawsuit but not without your help! THANK YOU!
www.gofundme.com/f/y6ca8t-suing-fcc-for-protection-from-5g <https://default.salsalabs.org/Ta62a79b8-1932-412e-bee0-a488259f25f6/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>
WHY ARE WE FUND RAISING FOR THIS LAWSUIT? WHY IS IT NOT ON CONTINGENCY?
The difference with this lawsuit and the one from the Erin Brokovich film is that one was a toxic tort against a company for damages which was why the firm took the case on contingency, meaning no upfront money because the attorneys had a huge sum of money from PG&E they would collect if they won. This lawsuit we are bringing is in the interest of the public good, we are not suing a company for damages, we are just suing the FCC, ADA and challenging the Telecom Act to retain our basic rights to life and for the legal violations including Constitutional that 5G brings. However, the NY firm has agreed to slash their rates by nearly 50% in order for this to be feasible for us. We believe the Erin Brokovich firm will too when the time comes to speak about this, but the initial work at this moment is being done by us and the NY firm. Please know that ANY SIZE donation is welcome! Please do not think your donation is too small if it's only $5 or $25. It's not! We are grateful! Alternatively please do not think your donation is too large if it is over $50,000 or $100,000 as we are definitely seeking large donors, able to donate large amounts as this lawsuit may ultimately reach into the high 6 or even low seven figure. We are eternally grateful to you and please see our below statement on large donations.
WILL I GET MY MONEY BACK IF WE WIN?
We believe we are going to win this lawsuit and when we do, we expect to be reimbursed all attorneys fees and court costs from Defendants. It is our intent to refund all donations for this lawsuit over $500, if and when we win - which we believe we will...these attorneys won't even take lawsuits if they don't think they will win! However, there are lots of legalities involved in refunding you, including even our written statement on it. So if we win and if we are reimbursed our court costs and attorneys fees, which we believe we will be, in accordance with the amount we have been reimbursed and the amount you have donated, it is our intent to refund all donations over $500, notwithstanding any legalities. However, if you used your donation as a tax deduction, the possibility exists that there may also be legal ramifications for getting your money refunded, so please speak with a tax attorney about this prior to accepting any funds back from us after we win as there may be tax implications. You can also choose to allow us to keep the funds if we get them back after the lawsuit, to help further our work on this issue which includes ground breaking scientific studies on wireless radiation exposure and health effects <https://default.salsalabs.org/T2f7b7279-faf0-4936-baf2-1340d8177d79/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, lawsuits on this issue <https://default.salsalabs.org/T2ad164cc-dc72-4b35-9244-2fc23fb9cbc5/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, general informing of the public via videos <https://default.salsalabs.org/T873e6011-66f3-4a45-8b94-818dd8da7bf4/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, power point presentations and educating our legislative representatives <https://default.salsalabs.org/Te49c8381-5007-4e59-ac5b-9b349824530f/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba> on this issue.
Thank you so much for your support of this lawsuit and your donation. Please give as generously as you can! We can do this but we need your support!
With love and gratitude,
Liz and All,
*The Peoples Initiative Foundation* 101 S Topanga Canyon Blvd #586 | Topanga, California 90290 310-281-9639 | contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org
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If the smart meter people use Weeviltor 2.0 as the modulation method would the Anti-Smart-Meter Lady be ok with that? Asking for a friend.... Mark, HDX On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 9:26 PM Richard J. Norton <richardjnorton@gmail.com> wrote:
No, Dick Norton firmly remains with the belief that Rappaport, the Topanga Anti-Smart-Meter Lady, anti-vaxers, and flat-earth believers all profess ideas that significantly diverge from reality.
However, I hope we are all aware that some politicians are not knowledgeable about technical subjects such as Maxwell's equations, dark matter, or long division, and can be influenced by people like the Anti-Smart-Meter Lady. For example, see https://www.rrmediagroup.com/News/NewsDetails/NewsID/11890/ where a few years ago, Los Angeles bowed to pressure from them and scaled back a large communications system.
We should and do pay attention to RF safety, and being knowledgeable about up-to-date safety information will aid our efforts to promote Amateur Radio.
73,
Dick
.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 5:03 PM rjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com> wrote:
So have the stars aligned and Dick Norton is now joining forces with Ted Rappaport? :)
73 Ria, N2RJ
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:57 PM Richard J. Norton < richardjnorton@gmail.com> wrote:
Topanga Anti-Smart-Electric-Meter Lady expands quest to protect us from life-threatening radio waves -
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Liz, Peoples Initiative News <contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org> Date: Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:37 PM Subject: Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Citizens Lawsuit Against 5G
Dear Friends,
Due to the imminent threat 5G poses not just to us and all life on earth, but also to our democracy (5G will enable IoT, self driving cars, home surveillance in real time, etc., etc.), we are suing the FCC and also naming the ADA and Telecom Act which prohibits environmental effects from blocking antennas and towers but has been interpreted by governments and courts to also include health, meaning you cannot use health effects as reason to block a cell antenna or tower. This is despite the US National Toxicology Programs findings of clear evidence of statistically significant carcinogenic effects from wireless radiation emitting devices and infrastructure. The FCC and Telecom Act are basically mandating the exposure to a known carcinogen, neurotoxin and genotoxin. We believe this to me immoral let alone illegal. And so we are finally taking legal action against the FCC and Telecom Act. We also may be adding other violations to this suit.
We have who we believe to be the #1 attorney in the US for blocking cell towers and antennas in the US (we have used him twice successfully to block towers in our area). But the really exciting news is that since this attorney is in NY and we are in California, we had to partner with a CA law firm, so we have partnered with none other than the law firm from the film Erin Brokovich! This is the firm that sued PG&E for poisoning families, lying to them about it and giving them cancer and they beat PG&E!
Please watch our video from our Go Fund Me campaign for this lawsuit <https://default.salsalabs.org/T3c1e315a-eefc-40c6-9bb2-cdcf142ba9c6/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba> . I have also pasted it below in case there are any issues with the above Go Fund Me link. I KNOW we are going to win this lawsuit...we have assembled the absolute "dream team" of attorneys for this important legal action. Please donate to this lawsuit. Your donations are tax deductible to the fullest extent of the law, as we are a 501c3 non profit. We also do not take a salary at Peoples Initiative, so 100% of your donations will go directly to attorneys fees and our bank statements are an open book to any serious donor over $1000 who would like to look at them. Please spread this email and Go Fund Me Campaign far and wide! We need to and will WIN this lawsuit but not without your help! THANK YOU!
www.gofundme.com/f/y6ca8t-suing-fcc-for-protection-from-5g <https://default.salsalabs.org/Ta62a79b8-1932-412e-bee0-a488259f25f6/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>
WHY ARE WE FUND RAISING FOR THIS LAWSUIT? WHY IS IT NOT ON CONTINGENCY?
The difference with this lawsuit and the one from the Erin Brokovich film is that one was a toxic tort against a company for damages which was why the firm took the case on contingency, meaning no upfront money because the attorneys had a huge sum of money from PG&E they would collect if they won. This lawsuit we are bringing is in the interest of the public good, we are not suing a company for damages, we are just suing the FCC, ADA and challenging the Telecom Act to retain our basic rights to life and for the legal violations including Constitutional that 5G brings. However, the NY firm has agreed to slash their rates by nearly 50% in order for this to be feasible for us. We believe the Erin Brokovich firm will too when the time comes to speak about this, but the initial work at this moment is being done by us and the NY firm. Please know that ANY SIZE donation is welcome! Please do not think your donation is too small if it's only $5 or $25. It's not! We are grateful! Alternatively please do not think your donation is too large if it is over $50,000 or $100,000 as we are definitely seeking large donors, able to donate large amounts as this lawsuit may ultimately reach into the high 6 or even low seven figure. We are eternally grateful to you and please see our below statement on large donations.
WILL I GET MY MONEY BACK IF WE WIN?
We believe we are going to win this lawsuit and when we do, we expect to be reimbursed all attorneys fees and court costs from Defendants. It is our intent to refund all donations for this lawsuit over $500, if and when we win - which we believe we will...these attorneys won't even take lawsuits if they don't think they will win! However, there are lots of legalities involved in refunding you, including even our written statement on it. So if we win and if we are reimbursed our court costs and attorneys fees, which we believe we will be, in accordance with the amount we have been reimbursed and the amount you have donated, it is our intent to refund all donations over $500, notwithstanding any legalities. However, if you used your donation as a tax deduction, the possibility exists that there may also be legal ramifications for getting your money refunded, so please speak with a tax attorney about this prior to accepting any funds back from us after we win as there may be tax implications. You can also choose to allow us to keep the funds if we get them back after the lawsuit, to help further our work on this issue which includes ground breaking scientific studies on wireless radiation exposure and health effects <https://default.salsalabs.org/T2f7b7279-faf0-4936-baf2-1340d8177d79/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, lawsuits on this issue <https://default.salsalabs.org/T2ad164cc-dc72-4b35-9244-2fc23fb9cbc5/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, general informing of the public via videos <https://default.salsalabs.org/T873e6011-66f3-4a45-8b94-818dd8da7bf4/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, power point presentations and educating our legislative representatives <https://default.salsalabs.org/Te49c8381-5007-4e59-ac5b-9b349824530f/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba> on this issue.
Thank you so much for your support of this lawsuit and your donation. Please give as generously as you can! We can do this but we need your support!
With love and gratitude,
Liz and All,
*The Peoples Initiative Foundation* 101 S Topanga Canyon Blvd #586 | Topanga, California 90290 310-281-9639 | contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org
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I was getting quite concerned. However, I’m pleased to know that N6AA did not fall off the edge of the flat earth! That and good copy on 160m can restore one’s faith! 73 ES DX David A. Norris, K5UZ Director, Delta Division Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 3, 2019, at 11:25 PM, Richard J. Norton <richardjnorton@gmail.com> wrote:
No, Dick Norton firmly remains with the belief that Rappaport, the Topanga Anti-Smart-Meter Lady, anti-vaxers, and flat-earth believers all profess ideas that significantly diverge from reality.
However, I hope we are all aware that some politicians are not knowledgeable about technical subjects such as Maxwell's equations, dark matter, or long division, and can be influenced by people like the Anti-Smart-Meter Lady. For example, see https://www.rrmediagroup.com/News/NewsDetails/NewsID/11890/ where a few years ago, Los Angeles bowed to pressure from them and scaled back a large communications system.
We should and do pay attention to RF safety, and being knowledgeable about up-to-date safety information will aid our efforts to promote Amateur Radio.
73,
Dick
.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 5:03 PM rjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com> wrote: So have the stars aligned and Dick Norton is now joining forces with Ted Rappaport? :)
73 Ria, N2RJ
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:57 PM Richard J. Norton <richardjnorton@gmail.com> wrote: Topanga Anti-Smart-Electric-Meter Lady expands quest to protect us from life-threatening radio waves -
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Liz, Peoples Initiative News <contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org> Date: Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:37 PM Subject: Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Citizens Lawsuit Against 5G
Dear Friends,
Due to the imminent threat 5G poses not just to us and all life on earth, but also to our democracy (5G will enable IoT, self driving cars, home surveillance in real time, etc., etc.), we are suing the FCC and also naming the ADA and Telecom Act which prohibits environmental effects from blocking antennas and towers but has been interpreted by governments and courts to also include health, meaning you cannot use health effects as reason to block a cell antenna or tower. This is despite the US National Toxicology Programs findings of clear evidence of statistically significant carcinogenic effects from wireless radiation emitting devices and infrastructure. The FCC and Telecom Act are basically mandating the exposure to a known carcinogen, neurotoxin and genotoxin. We believe this to me immoral let alone illegal. And so we are finally taking legal action against the FCC and Telecom Act. We also may be adding other violations to this suit.
We have who we believe to be the #1 attorney in the US for blocking cell towers and antennas in the US (we have used him twice successfully to block towers in our area). But the really exciting news is that since this attorney is in NY and we are in California, we had to partner with a CA law firm, so we have partnered with none other than the law firm from the film Erin Brokovich! This is the firm that sued PG&E for poisoning families, lying to them about it and giving them cancer and they beat PG&E!
Please watch our video from our Go Fund Me campaign for this lawsuit. I have also pasted it below in case there are any issues with the above Go Fund Me link. I KNOW we are going to win this lawsuit...we have assembled the absolute "dream team" of attorneys for this important legal action. Please donate to this lawsuit. Your donations are tax deductible to the fullest extent of the law, as we are a 501c3 non profit. We also do not take a salary at Peoples Initiative, so 100% of your donations will go directly to attorneys fees and our bank statements are an open book to any serious donor over $1000 who would like to look at them. Please spread this email and Go Fund Me Campaign far and wide! We need to and will WIN this lawsuit but not without your help! THANK YOU!
www.gofundme.com/f/y6ca8t-suing-fcc-for-protection-from-5g
WHY ARE WE FUND RAISING FOR THIS LAWSUIT? WHY IS IT NOT ON CONTINGENCY?
The difference with this lawsuit and the one from the Erin Brokovich film is that one was a toxic tort against a company for damages which was why the firm took the case on contingency, meaning no upfront money because the attorneys had a huge sum of money from PG&E they would collect if they won. This lawsuit we are bringing is in the interest of the public good, we are not suing a company for damages, we are just suing the FCC, ADA and challenging the Telecom Act to retain our basic rights to life and for the legal violations including Constitutional that 5G brings. However, the NY firm has agreed to slash their rates by nearly 50% in order for this to be feasible for us. We believe the Erin Brokovich firm will too when the time comes to speak about this, but the initial work at this moment is being done by us and the NY firm. Please know that ANY SIZE donation is welcome! Please do not think your donation is too small if it's only $5 or $25. It's not! We are grateful! Alternatively please do not think your donation is too large if it is over $50,000 or $100,000 as we are definitely seeking large donors, able to donate large amounts as this lawsuit may ultimately reach into the high 6 or even low seven figure. We are eternally grateful to you and please see our below statement on large donations.
WILL I GET MY MONEY BACK IF WE WIN?
We believe we are going to win this lawsuit and when we do, we expect to be reimbursed all attorneys fees and court costs from Defendants. It is our intent to refund all donations for this lawsuit over $500, if and when we win - which we believe we will...these attorneys won't even take lawsuits if they don't think they will win! However, there are lots of legalities involved in refunding you, including even our written statement on it. So if we win and if we are reimbursed our court costs and attorneys fees, which we believe we will be, in accordance with the amount we have been reimbursed and the amount you have donated, it is our intent to refund all donations over $500, notwithstanding any legalities. However, if you used your donation as a tax deduction, the possibility exists that there may also be legal ramifications for getting your money refunded, so please speak with a tax attorney about this prior to accepting any funds back from us after we win as there may be tax implications. You can also choose to allow us to keep the funds if we get them back after the lawsuit, to help further our work on this issue which includes ground breaking scientific studies on wireless radiation exposure and health effects, lawsuits on this issue, general informing of the public via videos, power point presentations and educating our legislative representatives on this issue.
Thank you so much for your support of this lawsuit and your donation. Please give as generously as you can! We can do this but we need your support!
With love and gratitude,
Liz and All,
The Peoples Initiative Foundation 101 S Topanga Canyon Blvd #586 | Topanga, California 90290 310-281-9639 | contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org
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I assume that Dick’s neighbor in Topanga either has not seen the N6AA antenna array, or she is satisfied that the extreme height of the antennas keeps radiation a safe distance from people. The FCC record in some proceedings has many such statements and mis-statements.) Nevertheless, this brings up a timely subject. On a serious note, I expect that RF safety will be a topic of renewed interest to hams in the near future. The FCC Commissioners are in the process of voting on revised guidelines for RF safety that have been pending since 2013. (It isn’t just ham regulatory items that take years.) Although not public until adopted, I fully expect that the Commission’s Report and Order will make some changes in how radio amateurs will be required to account for RF safety. So if Dick’s Topanga neighbor doesn’t catch your interest, this FCC item likely will, and release of this decision (likely in the next month or two) will increase the general public’s interest as well. So for future reference, here’s the official FCC general statement and related links on RF safety: https://tinyurl.com/z2yaffo. Coincidentally, there is a case that was appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday that touches upon whether radiation from cell phones is safe (which thankfully people are more interested in than the safety of ham radios, notwithstanding the radiated power differential). The principal legal argument relates to the Constitutionality of government-mandated speech, but the subject of that mandated speech is a safety disclosure required by cell phone retailers in Berkeley, CA. Since there are a number of lawyers here, I include a link to the CTIA petition below. (Anyone can read it, but the legalese may be a little heavy for non-lawyers if you haven’t been exposed to such language.) https://tinyurl.com/y46u4k23. (The City of Berkeley requires that cell phone retailers provide this notice to handset purchasers: “To assure safety, the Federal Government requires that cell phones meet radio frequency (RF) exposure guidelines. If you carry or use your phone in a pants or shirt pocket or tucked into a bra when the phone is ON and connected to a wireless network, you may exceed the federal guidelines for exposure to RF radiation. Refer to the instructions in your phone or user manual for information about how to use your phone safely.” The validity of the required statement and its intended message, while not *directly* at issue in this First Amendment case, of course does underpin the arguments.) 73, Dave K3ZJ From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> on behalf of "Richard J. Norton" <richardjnorton@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 4:57 PM To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:28821] Fwd: Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Citizens Lawsuit Against 5G Topanga Anti-Smart-Electric-Meter Lady expands quest to protect us from life-threatening radio waves - ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Liz, Peoples Initiative News <contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org<mailto:contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org>> Date: Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:37 PM Subject: Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Citizens Lawsuit Against 5G [Image removed by sender.] Dear Friends, Due to the imminent threat 5G poses not just to us and all life on earth, but also to our democracy (5G will enable IoT, self driving cars, home surveillance in real time, etc., etc.), we are suing the FCC and also naming the ADA and Telecom Act which prohibits environmental effects from blocking antennas and towers but has been interpreted by governments and courts to also include health, meaning you cannot use health effects as reason to block a cell antenna or tower. This is despite the US National Toxicology Programs findings of clear evidence of statistically significant carcinogenic effects from wireless radiation emitting devices and infrastructure. The FCC and Telecom Act are basically mandating the exposure to a known carcinogen, neurotoxin and genotoxin. We believe this to me immoral let alone illegal. And so we are finally taking legal action against the FCC and Telecom Act. We also may be adding other violations to this suit. We have who we believe to be the #1 attorney in the US for blocking cell towers and antennas in the US (we have used him twice successfully to block towers in our area). But the really exciting news is that since this attorney is in NY and we are in California, we had to partner with a CA law firm, so we have partnered with none other than the law firm from the film Erin Brokovich! This is the firm that sued PG&E for poisoning families, lying to them about it and giving them cancer and they beat PG&E! Please watch our video from our Go Fund Me campaign for this lawsuit<https://default.salsalabs.org/T3c1e315a-eefc-40c6-9bb2-cdcf142ba9c6/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>. I have also pasted it below in case there are any issues with the above Go Fund Me link. I KNOW we are going to win this lawsuit...we have assembled the absolute "dream team" of attorneys for this important legal action. Please donate to this lawsuit. Your donations are tax deductible to the fullest extent of the law, as we are a 501c3 non profit. We also do not take a salary at Peoples Initiative, so 100% of your donations will go directly to attorneys fees and our bank statements are an open book to any serious donor over $1000 who would like to look at them. Please spread this email and Go Fund Me Campaign far and wide! We need to and will WIN this lawsuit but not without your help! THANK YOU! www.gofundme.com/f/y6ca8t-suing-fcc-for-protection-from-5g<https://default.salsalabs.org/Ta62a79b8-1932-412e-bee0-a488259f25f6/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba> WHY ARE WE FUND RAISING FOR THIS LAWSUIT? WHY IS IT NOT ON CONTINGENCY? The difference with this lawsuit and the one from the Erin Brokovich film is that one was a toxic tort against a company for damages which was why the firm took the case on contingency, meaning no upfront money because the attorneys had a huge sum of money from PG&E they would collect if they won. This lawsuit we are bringing is in the interest of the public good, we are not suing a company for damages, we are just suing the FCC, ADA and challenging the Telecom Act to retain our basic rights to life and for the legal violations including Constitutional that 5G brings. However, the NY firm has agreed to slash their rates by nearly 50% in order for this to be feasible for us. We believe the Erin Brokovich firm will too when the time comes to speak about this, but the initial work at this moment is being done by us and the NY firm. Please know that ANY SIZE donation is welcome! Please do not think your donation is too small if it's only $5 or $25. It's not! We are grateful! Alternatively please do not think your donation is too large if it is over $50,000 or $100,000 as we are definitely seeking large donors, able to donate large amounts as this lawsuit may ultimately reach into the high 6 or even low seven figure. We are eternally grateful to you and please see our below statement on large donations. WILL I GET MY MONEY BACK IF WE WIN? We believe we are going to win this lawsuit and when we do, we expect to be reimbursed all attorneys fees and court costs from Defendants. It is our intent to refund all donations for this lawsuit over $500, if and when we win - which we believe we will...these attorneys won't even take lawsuits if they don't think they will win! However, there are lots of legalities involved in refunding you, including even our written statement on it. So if we win and if we are reimbursed our court costs and attorneys fees, which we believe we will be, in accordance with the amount we have been reimbursed and the amount you have donated, it is our intent to refund all donations over $500, notwithstanding any legalities. However, if you used your donation as a tax deduction, the possibility exists that there may also be legal ramifications for getting your money refunded, so please speak with a tax attorney about this prior to accepting any funds back from us after we win as there may be tax implications. You can also choose to allow us to keep the funds if we get them back after the lawsuit, to help further our work on this issue which includes ground breaking scientific studies on wireless radiation exposure and health effects<https://default.salsalabs.org/T2f7b7279-faf0-4936-baf2-1340d8177d79/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, lawsuits on this issue<https://default.salsalabs.org/T2ad164cc-dc72-4b35-9244-2fc23fb9cbc5/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, general informing of the public via videos<https://default.salsalabs.org/T873e6011-66f3-4a45-8b94-818dd8da7bf4/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba>, power point presentations and educating our legislative representatives<https://default.salsalabs.org/Te49c8381-5007-4e59-ac5b-9b349824530f/8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba> on this issue. Thank you so much for your support of this lawsuit and your donation. Please give as generously as you can! We can do this but we need your support! With love and gratitude, Liz and All, The Peoples Initiative Foundation 101 S Topanga Canyon Blvd #586 | Topanga, California 90290 310-281-9639 | contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org<mailto:contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org> Having trouble viewing this email? View it in your web browser<https://thepeoplesinitiativefoundation.salsalabs.org/erinbrokovichlawfirmjoinswirelessradiationlawsuit-a?wvpId=8ffcafc8-9091-46bd-a474-9ece9644e3ba> [Image removed by sender.]

has not seen the N6AA antenna array, Have you ever seen it? He's really what I call a "weak signal weenie" ..... 73K5UR -----Original Message----- From: david davidsiddall-law. com <david@davidsiddall-law.com> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Sent: Thu, Oct 3, 2019 9:09 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:28825] Re: Fwd: Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Citizens Lawsuit Against 5G #yiv8997881936 #yiv8997881936 -- _filtered #yiv8997881936 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv8997881936 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv8997881936 #yiv8997881936 p.yiv8997881936MsoNormal, #yiv8997881936 li.yiv8997881936MsoNormal, #yiv8997881936 div.yiv8997881936MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv8997881936 a:link, #yiv8997881936 span.yiv8997881936MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv8997881936 a:visited, #yiv8997881936 span.yiv8997881936MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv8997881936 p.yiv8997881936msonormal0, #yiv8997881936 li.yiv8997881936msonormal0, #yiv8997881936 div.yiv8997881936msonormal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv8997881936 span.yiv8997881936EmailStyle20 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv8997881936 .yiv8997881936MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv8997881936 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv8997881936 div.yiv8997881936WordSection1 {} #yiv8997881936 I assume that Dick’s neighbor in Topanga either has not seen the N6AA antenna array, or she is satisfied that the extreme height of the antennas keeps radiation a safe distance from people. The FCC record in some proceedings has many such statements and mis-statements.) Nevertheless, this brings up a timely subject. On a serious note, I expect that RF safety will be a topic of renewed interest to hams in the near future. The FCC Commissioners are in the process of voting on revised guidelines for RF safety that have been pending since 2013. (It isn’t just ham regulatory items that take years.) Although not public until adopted, I fully expect that the Commission’s Report and Order will make some changes in how radio amateurs will be required to account for RF safety. So if Dick’s Topanga neighbor doesn’t catch your interest, this FCC item likely will, and release of this decision (likely in the next month or two) will increase the general public’s interest as well. So for future reference, here’s the official FCC general statement and related links on RF safety: https://tinyurl.com/z2yaffo. Coincidentally, there is a case that was appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday that touches upon whether radiation from cell phones is safe (which thankfully people are more interested in than the safety of ham radios, notwithstanding the radiated power differential). The principal legal argument relates to the Constitutionality of government-mandated speech, but the subject of that mandated speech is a safety disclosure required by cell phone retailers in Berkeley, CA. Since there are a number of lawyers here, I include a link to the CTIA petition below. (Anyone can read it, but the legalese may be a little heavy for non-lawyers if you haven’t been exposed to such language.) https://tinyurl.com/y46u4k23. (The City of Berkeley requires that cell phone retailers provide this notice to handset purchasers: “To assure safety, the Federal Government requires that cell phones meet radio frequency (RF) exposure guidelines. If you carry or use your phone in a pants or shirt pocket or tucked into a bra when the phone is ON and connected to a wireless network, you may exceed the federal guidelines for exposure to RF radiation. Refer to the instructions in your phone or user manual for information about how to use your phone safely.” The validity of the required statement and its intended message, while not *directly* at issue in this First Amendment case, of course does underpin the arguments.) 73, Dave K3ZJ From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> on behalf of "Richard J. Norton" <richardjnorton@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 4:57 PM To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:28821] Fwd: Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Citizens Lawsuit Against 5G Topanga Anti-Smart-Electric-Meter Lady expands quest to protect us from life-threatening radio waves - ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Liz, Peoples Initiative News <contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org> Date: Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:37 PM Subject: Erin Brokovich Firm Joins Citizens Lawsuit Against 5G | | | | | | | | Dear Friends, Due to the imminent threat 5G poses not just to us and all life on earth, but also to our democracy (5G will enable IoT, self driving cars, home surveillance in real time, etc., etc.), we are suing the FCC and also naming the ADA and Telecom Act which prohibits environmental effects from blocking antennas and towers but has been interpreted by governments and courts to also include health, meaning you cannot use health effects as reason to block a cell antenna or tower. This is despite the US National Toxicology Programs findings of clear evidence of statistically significant carcinogenic effects from wireless radiation emitting devices and infrastructure. The FCC and Telecom Act are basically mandating the exposure to a known carcinogen, neurotoxin and genotoxin. We believe this to me immoral let alone illegal. And so we are finally taking legal action against the FCC and Telecom Act. We also may be adding other violations to this suit. We have who we believe to be the #1 attorney in the US for blocking cell towers and antennas in the US (we have used him twice successfully to block towers in our area). But the really exciting news is that since this attorney is in NY and we are in California, we had to partner with a CA law firm, so we have partnered with none other than the law firm from the film Erin Brokovich! This is the firm that sued PG&E for poisoning families, lying to them about it and giving them cancer and they beat PG&E! Please watch our video from ourGo Fund Me campaign for this lawsuit. I have also pasted it below in case there are any issues with the above Go Fund Me link. I KNOW we are going to win this lawsuit...we have assembled the absolute "dream team" of attorneys for this important legal action. Please donate to this lawsuit. Your donations are tax deductible to the fullest extent of the law, as we are a 501c3 non profit. We also do not take a salary at Peoples Initiative, so 100% of your donations will go directly to attorneys fees and our bank statements are an open book to any serious donor over $1000 who would like to look at them. Please spread this email and Go Fund Me Campaign far and wide! We need to and will WIN this lawsuit but not without your help! THANK YOU! www.gofundme.com/f/y6ca8t-suing-fcc-for-protection-from-5g WHY ARE WE FUND RAISING FOR THIS LAWSUIT? WHY IS IT NOT ON CONTINGENCY? The difference with this lawsuit and the one from the Erin Brokovich film is that one was a toxic tort against a company for damages which was why the firm took the case on contingency, meaning no upfront money because the attorneys had a huge sum of money from PG&E they would collect if they won. This lawsuit we are bringing is in the interest of the public good, we are not suing a company for damages, we are just suing the FCC, ADA and challenging the Telecom Act to retain our basic rights to life and for the legal violations including Constitutional that 5G brings. However, the NY firm has agreed to slash their rates by nearly 50% in order for this to be feasible for us. We believe the Erin Brokovich firm will too when the time comes to speak about this, but the initial work at this moment is being done by us and the NY firm. Please know that ANY SIZE donation is welcome! Please do not think your donation is too small if it's only $5 or $25. It's not! We are grateful! Alternatively please do not think your donation is too large if it is over $50,000 or $100,000 as we are definitely seeking large donors, able to donate large amounts as this lawsuit may ultimately reach into the high 6 or even low seven figure. We are eternally grateful to you and please see our below statement on large donations. WILL I GET MY MONEY BACK IF WE WIN? We believe we are going to win this lawsuit and when we do, we expect to be reimbursed all attorneys fees and court costs from Defendants. It is our intent to refund all donations for this lawsuit over $500, if and when we win - which we believe we will...these attorneys won't even take lawsuits if they don't think they will win! However, there are lots of legalities involved in refunding you, including even our written statement on it. So if we win and if we are reimbursed our court costs and attorneys fees, which we believe we will be, in accordance with the amount we have been reimbursed and the amount you have donated, it is our intent to refund all donations over $500, notwithstanding any legalities. However, if you used your donation as a tax deduction, the possibility exists that there may also be legal ramifications for getting your money refunded, so please speak with a tax attorney about this prior to accepting any funds back from us after we win as there may be tax implications. You can also choose to allow us to keep the funds if we get them back after the lawsuit, to help further our work on this issue which includesground breaking scientific studies on wireless radiation exposure and health effects,lawsuits on this issue, general informing of the public viavideos, power point presentations andeducating our legislative representatives on this issue. Thank you so much for your support of this lawsuit and your donation. Please give as generously as you can! We can do this but we need your support! With love and gratitude, Liz and All, | | | | | | | | | | | | The Peoples Initiative Foundation 101 S Topanga Canyon Blvd #586 | Topanga, California 90290 310-281-9639 | contact@thepeoplesinitiative.org | | | | Having trouble viewing this email? View it in your web browser | | | | | | | | | | _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
participants (8)
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david davidsiddall-law.com
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David Norris
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John Robert Stratton
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k5ur@aol.com
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Mark J Tharp
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Michael Ritz
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Richard J. Norton
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rjairam@gmail.com