[arrl-odv:30370] Use of 1 X 1 Call Signs by Special Event Stations
To follow up on yesterday’s discussion: As stated in the FCC's rules, a 1 X 1 special event call sign is a "call sign", and a self-assigned indicator can be used with any amateur radio "call sign". The FCC rules do not distinguish among types of call signs for purposes of adding self-assigned indicator(s). The principal conditions are that a self-assigned indicator may not "conflict with any other indicator specified by the FCC Rules (such as 'AA', 'AG', 'AE' or 'KT') or with any prefix assigned to another country (such as 'DL', 'F', 'G' or 'VE' "; that the operator must ensure that any self-assigned indicator does not cause confusion with the station's true identity; and that, at least once an hour during operation, the FCC licensed station call sign associated with the special event station call sign be given. (This last requirement predates today's universal instant access to Web call sign databases but remains in the rules and is mandatory.) The published FCC staff summary is consistent with the above. (1) An amateur special event station may transmit the identification announcement using a special event call sign, and (2) any amateur station, explicitly including a special event station (i.e., one that can use a special event call sign) may include one or more voluntary indicators. See: https://tinyurl.com/ya2l77xh. 73, Dave K3ZJ David R. Siddall Managing Partner DS Law, PLLC 1629 K St. NW, Ste 300 Washington, DC 20006 direct: +1 202 559 4690 Unauthorized Disclosure Prohibited. This e-mail is intended solely for the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, it is prohibited to disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email and its attachments. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all electronic and physical copies of the e-mail message and its attachments. Unintended transmission shall not constitute waiver of attorney-client or any other privilege. Thank you.
Hello Dave One discussion I have seen from time to time is the use of /R for rover in VHF contests,and I thought that there would be confusion since W9XA/R is a rover while R/W9XA wouldbe used when I am visiting Russia. 73, Kermit W9XA On Saturday, May 30, 2020, 12:23:51 PM CDT, david davidsiddall-law. com <david@davidsiddall-law.com> wrote: To follow up on yesterday’s discussion: As stated in the FCC's rules, a 1 X 1 special event call sign is a "call sign", and a self-assigned indicator can be used with any amateur radio "call sign". The FCC rules do not distinguish among types of call signs for purposes of adding self-assigned indicator(s). The principal conditions are that a self-assigned indicator may not "conflict with any other indicator specified by the FCC Rules (such as 'AA', 'AG', 'AE' or 'KT') or with any prefix assigned to another country (such as 'DL', 'F', 'G' or 'VE' "; that the operator must ensure that any self-assigned indicator does not cause confusion with the station's true identity; and that, at least once an hour during operation, the FCC licensed station call sign associated with the special event station call sign be given. (This last requirement predates today's universal instant access to Web call sign databases but remains in the rules and is mandatory.) The published FCC staff summary is consistent with the above. (1) An amateur special event station may transmit the identification announcement using a special event call sign, and (2) any amateur station, explicitly including a special event station (i.e., one that can use a special event call sign) may include one or more voluntary indicators. See:https://tinyurl.com/ya2l77xh. 73, Dave K3ZJ David R. Siddall Managing Partner DS Law, PLLC 1629 K St. NW, Ste 300 Washington, DC 20006 direct: +1 202 559 4690 Unauthorized Disclosure Prohibited. This e-mail is intended solely for the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, it is prohibited to disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email and its attachments. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all electronic and physical copies of the e-mail message and its attachments. Unintended transmission shall not constitute waiver of attorney-client or any other privilege. Thank you. _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
... sri - that should have been. “ .... no confusion” 73, Kermit Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, May 30, 2020, 13:27, Kermit Carlson via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote: Hello Dave One discussion I have seen from time to time is the use of /R for rover in VHF contests,and I thought that there would be confusion since W9XA/R is a rover while R/W9XA wouldbe used when I am visiting Russia. 73, Kermit W9XA On Saturday, May 30, 2020, 12:23:51 PM CDT, david davidsiddall-law. com <david@davidsiddall-law.com> wrote: To follow up on yesterday’s discussion: As stated in the FCC's rules, a 1 X 1 special event call sign is a "call sign", and a self-assigned indicator can be used with any amateur radio "call sign". The FCC rules do not distinguish among types of call signs for purposes of adding self-assigned indicator(s). The principal conditions are that a self-assigned indicator may not "conflict with any other indicator specified by the FCC Rules (such as 'AA', 'AG', 'AE' or 'KT') or with any prefix assigned to another country (such as 'DL', 'F', 'G' or 'VE' "; that the operator must ensure that any self-assigned indicator does not cause confusion with the station's true identity; and that, at least once an hour during operation, the FCC licensed station call sign associated with the special event station call sign be given. (This last requirement predates today's universal instant access to Web call sign databases but remains in the rules and is mandatory.) The published FCC staff summary is consistent with the above. (1) An amateur special event station may transmit the identification announcement using a special event call sign, and (2) any amateur station, explicitly including a special event station (i.e., one that can use a special event call sign) may include one or more voluntary indicators. See:https://tinyurl.com/ya2l77xh. 73, Dave K3ZJ David R. Siddall Managing Partner DS Law, PLLC 1629 K St. NW, Ste 300 Washington, DC 20006 direct: +1 202 559 4690 Unauthorized Disclosure Prohibited. This e-mail is intended solely for the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, it is prohibited to disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email and its attachments. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all electronic and physical copies of the e-mail message and its attachments. Unintended transmission shall not constitute waiver of attorney-client or any other privilege. Thank you. _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
I would agree with that. Except for Canadian/U.S. Amateurs in each other’s countries operating pursuant to (an ancient) bilateral reciprocal treaty, a country designator is placed before an operator’s callsign. So R/W9XA should not be used as a self-assigned indicator for the reason you state. But I think W9XA/R passes the test because placement after your call sign will not be confused with Russia. Whether you intend to indicate “rover”, “repeater”, or something else is up to you so long as not easily confused with a regulatory designator. (There is no requirement that self-assigned indicators themselves be “clear”, so long as they do not constitute some sort of secret (encrypted) meaning.) Dave From: Kermit Carlson <w9xa@yahoo.com> Date: Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 3:05 PM To: ODV <arrl-odv@arrl.org>, "david@davidsiddall-law.com" <david@davidsiddall-law.com> Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:30371] Re: Use of 1 X 1 Call Signs by Special Event Stations ... sri - that should have been. “ .... no confusion” 73, Kermit Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone<https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS> On Saturday, May 30, 2020, 13:27, Kermit Carlson via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote: Hello Dave One discussion I have seen from time to time is the use of /R for rover in VHF contests, and I thought that there would be confusion since W9XA/R is a rover while R/W9XA would be used when I am visiting Russia. 73, Kermit W9XA On Saturday, May 30, 2020, 12:23:51 PM CDT, david davidsiddall-law. com <david@davidsiddall-law.com> wrote: To follow up on yesterday’s discussion: As stated in the FCC's rules, a 1 X 1 special event call sign is a "call sign", and a self-assigned indicator can be used with any amateur radio "call sign". The FCC rules do not distinguish among types of call signs for purposes of adding self-assigned indicator(s). The principal conditions are that a self-assigned indicator may not "conflict with any other indicator specified by the FCC Rules (such as 'AA', 'AG', 'AE' or 'KT') or with any prefix assigned to another country (such as 'DL', 'F', 'G' or 'VE' "; that the operator must ensure that any self-assigned indicator does not cause confusion with the station's true identity; and that, at least once an hour during operation, the FCC licensed station call sign associated with the special event station call sign be given. (This last requirement predates today's universal instant access to Web call sign databases but remains in the rules and is mandatory.) The published FCC staff summary is consistent with the above. (1) An amateur special event station may transmit the identification announcement using a special event call sign, and (2) any amateur station, explicitly including a special event station (i.e., one that can use a special event call sign) may include one or more voluntary indicators. See: https://tinyurl.com/ya2l77xh. 73, Dave K3ZJ David R. Siddall Managing Partner DS Law, PLLC 1629 K St. NW, Ste 300 Washington, DC 20006 direct: +1 202 559 4690 Unauthorized Disclosure Prohibited. This e-mail is intended solely for the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, it is prohibited to disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email and its attachments. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all electronic and physical copies of the e-mail message and its attachments. Unintended transmission shall not constitute waiver of attorney-client or any other privilege. Thank you. _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
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