[arrl-odv:34393] The Good Guys Are On Base
*Ladies and Gentlemen* Our legislative efforts have born fruit. At our request Rep. Debbie Lesko (AZ-8) filed the Symbol Rate bill, HR 9664, yesterday. Rep. Lesko's press release is enclosed. A copy of the Congress.gov page confirming the filing is also enclosed; the actual page is located at https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/9664/all-info A copy of the Bill is enclosed. * David Minster will be issuing a statement/press release on behalf of the ARRL later. BEFORE you make any public statements or share this information with your Members, _please __wait _until David has published the League's press release on this matter.* If you have questions, please ask. Since HR 9664 and Rep. Lesko's press release are now public information, discussion of this legislation is no longer embargoed — *after* David has published the League's press release. *BUT, and this is a VERY IMPORTANT BUT: DO NOT take the opportunity to bash, denigrate or slander the FCC in any discussions, emails or newsletters. It remains our hope that the FCC will act without the necessity of Congress enacting the Bill. With the filing of this Bill, FCC Counsel David Siddall has the opportunity to work with the FCC to persuade it to act prior to and without the passage of HR 9664. Speaking ill of the FCC is unwise and potentially counterproductive. We should not lose sight of the fact that we are still attempting to persuade both the FCC and Congress to retain our secondary status in the 3 GHz band. Dampening the FCC's blue suede shoes is not beneficial to the goal of being chosen as the FCC's Prom date. * * Thanks, besides to Rep. Lesko, for this result should be given to Tom Abernethy, Lee H. Cooper, Fred Hopengarten, David Siddall and to Matt Keelen with The Vogel Group.* _______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office:512-445-6262 Cell:512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 *_______________________________________***
Well this solves half of a problem. The symbol rate change without a band plan to support the protection of our legacy supporters will be problematic. Our CW and contest operators foresee, likely with some degree of certainty, that this will cause interference in the lower parts of the band. Winlink, particularly, is frustrating to these operators because the protocol does not “listen before transmit” for existing signals. If this passes - which it must do in the current session, ending this week? - we must then press the band plan proposal which addresses these potential issues. Mickey Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> on behalf of John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:13:51 AM To: arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Cc: na2aa@arrl.net <dminster@gmail.com> Subject: [arrl-odv:34393] The Good Guys Are On Base Ladies and Gentlemen Our legislative efforts have born fruit. At our request Rep. Debbie Lesko (AZ-8) filed the Symbol Rate bill, HR 9664, yesterday. Rep. Lesko's press release is enclosed. A copy of the Congress.gov page confirming the filing is also enclosed; the actual page is located at https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/9664/all-info A copy of the Bill is enclosed. David Minster will be issuing a statement/press release on behalf of the ARRL later. BEFORE you make any public statements or share this information with your Members, please wait until David has published the League's press release on this matter. If you have questions, please ask. Since HR 9664 and Rep. Lesko's press release are now public information, discussion of this legislation is no longer embargoed — after David has published the League's press release. BUT, and this is a VERY IMPORTANT BUT: DO NOT take the opportunity to bash, denigrate or slander the FCC in any discussions, emails or newsletters. It remains our hope that the FCC will act without the necessity of Congress enacting the Bill. With the filing of this Bill, FCC Counsel David Siddall has the opportunity to work with the FCC to persuade it to act prior to and without the passage of HR 9664. Speaking ill of the FCC is unwise and potentially counterproductive. We should not lose sight of the fact that we are still attempting to persuade both the FCC and Congress to retain our secondary status in the 3 GHz band. Dampening the FCC's blue suede shoes is not beneficial to the goal of being chosen as the FCC's Prom date. Thanks, besides to Rep. Lesko, for this result should be given to Tom Abernethy, Lee H. Cooper, Fred Hopengarten, David Siddall and to Matt Keelen with The Vogel Group. _______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office: 512-445-6262 Cell: 512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 _______________________________________
Mickey The League has proposed a band plan to the FCC; it is one of the matters on which no action has been taken. It is, unfortunately, a step at a time. If we can either obtain Congressional relief on symbol rate or if the FCC reads the words of the prophets on the subway walls, maybe it will move on all of the pending items. HR 9664 will not pass in this, the 117th Session. The Session either ends tomorrow, or next week when Congress finally agrees on a financing bill. We and Rep. Lesko were and are aware of this. She will re-file it in January. Filing the bill in this Session establishes that Mongo is back in town and provides the FCC with a two minute warning. If the FCC does not begin to move other AR pending matters, we plan on filing additional legislation next Session to obtain Congressional mandates on those items. Fight's on, but this is just the first round. ______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office:512-445-6262 Cell:512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 *______________________________________* On 12/22/22 9:51 AM, Baker, Mickey, N4MB (Dir, SE) wrote:
Well this solves half of a problem.
The symbol rate change without a band plan to support the protection of our legacy supporters will be problematic.
Our CW and contest operators foresee, likely with some degree of certainty, that this will cause interference in the lower parts of the band. Winlink, particularly, is frustrating to these operators because the protocol does not “listen before transmit” for existing signals.
If this passes - which it must do in the current session, ending this week? - we must then press the band plan proposal which addresses these potential issues.
Mickey
Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> on behalf of John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> *Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:13:51 AM *To:* arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> *Cc:* na2aa@arrl.net <dminster@gmail.com> *Subject:* [arrl-odv:34393] The Good Guys Are On Base *Ladies and Gentlemen*
Our legislative efforts have born fruit. At our request Rep. Debbie Lesko (AZ-8) filed the Symbol Rate bill, HR 9664, yesterday.
Rep. Lesko's press release is enclosed. A copy of the Congress.gov page confirming the filing is also enclosed; the actual page is located at https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/9664/all-info <https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/9664/all-info>
A copy of the Bill is enclosed.
* David Minster will be issuing a statement/press release on behalf of the ARRL later. BEFORE you make any public statements or share this information with your Members, _please __wait _until David has published the League's press release on this matter.*
If you have questions, please ask.
Since HR 9664 and Rep. Lesko's press release are now public information, discussion of this legislation is no longer embargoed — *after* David has published the League's press release.
*BUT, and this is a VERY IMPORTANT BUT: DO NOT take the opportunity to bash, denigrate or slander the FCC in any discussions, emails or newsletters. It remains our hope that the FCC will act without the necessity of Congress enacting the Bill. With the filing of this Bill, FCC Counsel David Siddall has the opportunity to work with the FCC to persuade it to act prior to and without the passage of HR 9664.
Speaking ill of the FCC is unwise and potentially counterproductive. We should not lose sight of the fact that we are still attempting to persuade both the FCC and Congress to retain our secondary status in the 3 GHz band. Dampening the FCC's blue suede shoes is not beneficial to the goal of being chosen as the FCC's Prom date. * * Thanks, besides to Rep. Lesko, for this result should be given to Tom Abernethy, Lee H. Cooper, Fred Hopengarten, David Siddall and to Matt Keelen with The Vogel Group.*
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John Robert Stratton
N5AUS
Director
West Gulf Division
Office:512-445-6262
Cell:512-426-2028
P.O. Box 2232
Austin, Texas 78768-2232
*_______________________________________***
"The symbol rate change without a band plan to support the protection of our legacy supporters will be problematic". Exactly. Very weak signal operators (which are not really legacy), as with the narrow band digital modes operating below the noise level, cannot usually be heard by automatic and/or wideband operations. Listen before transmit with wideband modes, particularly in automatic control, is a fiction. I fear this might end up in a political divide much like incentive licensing debacle back in the day. Though some argue otherwise, gentleman's agreements will not work in the US, we do need basic, enforceable bandwidth sub-band regulations as we discussed and recommended several years ago in developing and presenting the ARRL position. Bob Famiglio, K3RF Vice Director - ARRL Atlantic Division 610-359-7300 Serving NNY, WNY, WPA, EPA, SNJ, DE and MD/DC sections <http://www.QRZ.com/db/K3RF> www.QRZ.com/db/K3RF From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Baker, Mickey, N4MB (Dir, SE) Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:51 AM To: arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org; Stratton, John, N5AUS (Dir, WG) <N5AUS@n5aus.com> Cc: na2aa@arrl.net <dminster@gmail.com> Subject: [arrl-odv:34394] Re: The Good Guys Are On Base Well this solves half of a problem. The symbol rate change without a band plan to support the protection of our legacy supporters will be problematic. Our CW and contest operators foresee, likely with some degree of certainty, that this will cause interference in the lower parts of the band. Winlink, particularly, is frustrating to these operators because the protocol does not "listen before transmit" for existing signals. If this passes - which it must do in the current session, ending this week? - we must then press the band plan proposal which addresses these potential issues. Mickey Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> _____ From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org <mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> > on behalf of John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com <mailto:N5AUS@n5aus.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 10:13:51 AM To: arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org <mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org <mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> > Cc: na2aa@arrl.net <mailto:na2aa@arrl.net> <dminster@gmail.com <mailto:dminster@gmail.com> > Subject: [arrl-odv:34393] The Good Guys Are On Base Ladies and Gentlemen Our legislative efforts have born fruit. At our request Rep. Debbie Lesko (AZ-8) filed the Symbol Rate bill, HR 9664, yesterday. Rep. Lesko's press release is enclosed. A copy of the Congress.gov page confirming the filing is also enclosed; the actual page is located at https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/9664/all-info A copy of the Bill is enclosed. David Minster will be issuing a statement/press release on behalf of the ARRL later. BEFORE you make any public statements or share this information with your Members, please wait until David has published the League's press release on this matter. If you have questions, please ask. Since HR 9664 and Rep. Lesko's press release are now public information, discussion of this legislation is no longer embargoed - after David has published the League's press release. BUT, and this is a VERY IMPORTANT BUT: DO NOT take the opportunity to bash, denigrate or slander the FCC in any discussions, emails or newsletters. It remains our hope that the FCC will act without the necessity of Congress enacting the Bill. With the filing of this Bill, FCC Counsel David Siddall has the opportunity to work with the FCC to persuade it to act prior to and without the passage of HR 9664. Speaking ill of the FCC is unwise and potentially counterproductive. We should not lose sight of the fact that we are still attempting to persuade both the FCC and Congress to retain our secondary status in the 3 GHz band. Dampening the FCC's blue suede shoes is not beneficial to the goal of being chosen as the FCC's Prom date. Thanks, besides to Rep. Lesko, for this result should be given to Tom Abernethy, Lee H. Cooper, Fred Hopengarten, David Siddall and to Matt Keelen with The Vogel Group. _______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office: 512-445-6262 Cell: 512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 _______________________________________
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