Joel is correct, In the discussion on Thursday evening I suggested that the committee name change shouldn’t suggest any decreased attention to Member Services. If the Board is of a mind that P&MS or another version without the ampersand will bother some members, let’s change the name. Perhaps we ought remind ourselves that the Field and Educational Services Department abbreviation when spoken is phonetically “Effen E Ess.” Say that fast 3 times. Is this really worth all the email traffic? If so, let’s just change the name and move on. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Joel Harrison [mailto:w5zn@arrl.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:02 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10018] Re: Committee Renaming Proposal The original name was "Programs & Services". When President Haynie assigned Director Bellows on behalf of A&F, and me on behalf of the Executive Committee to work out a compromise Thursday evening, Jay wanted to add "Member" to the name. So, that was added to the motion that was presented to the board. I have no personal feeling either way. The committee will still do what the board has assigned regardless of what we call it..... P&S Committee or P&MS Committee. Programs & Services works fine for me. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: Wade Walstrom [mailto:walstrom@mchsi.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:29 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10015] Re: Committee Renaming Proposal "Programs and Services" works for me. 73, Wade W0EJ K5ur@aol.com wrote:

Wade:

The original EC proposal called it "Programs and Services" and according to the info Dave sent out in the notice of Bylaw changes back on December 19, 2003, the A & F proposal also called it "Programs and Services." However, looking at the Board motion that was passed out at the meeting, the Combined Committee Proposal, it is called "Programs and Member Services."

Hum...... somehow that word "Member" got in there along the way.

Wade does bring up a good point about calling it "Member Services and Programs." Not a bad idea perhaps, or maybe we should go back to "Programs and Services." I could go with either.

73, Rick - K5UR