This certainly is a useable if not totally literal translation, Dave. Hi! I was waiting to see what Joel's Korean dictionary had for a translation, though. Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je@arrl.org; Tel: 513-459-0142 ARRL Great Lakes Division ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is! -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:02 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13408] Re: LoTW According to Linda, who has a better classical education than I do, it means: "The thing speaks for itself, but what the hell does it say?" Dave K1ZZ _____ From: Joel Harrison [mailto:w5zn@arrl.org] Sent: Sat 12/10/2005 12:37 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13407] Re: LoTW I can't find any of those words in my English dictionary. -----Original Message----- From: John Bellows [mailto:jbellows@skypoint.com] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:41 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:13403] Re: LoTW Res ipsa loquitur, sed quid in infernos dicit? Jay