It will take probably close to a year, perhaps a bit longer to rewrite all of this to a standard that the Board will find acceptable. Agree. It will be an enormous project, more work than one would expect. We reviewed the Standing Orders back in around 2014-15 and Sumner did most of the admin work and it took a hard year. 73,Rick - K5UR -----Original Message----- From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> To: arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2020 10:20 am Subject: [arrl-odv:30711] Re: E&E #1 Jim, Mark (and Lynn) and Ria have all voiced valid reasons why this motion has the potential to create problems, rather than improve the election process. Our current Bylaws, Standing Orders and the Director's Workbook (and election procedures) are a patchwork quilt built over decades, with little thought to consistency. The lack of thought is not malice; it is a result, amongst other reasons, of a lack of competent legal advice and oversight. At present the Legal Restructuring Committee intends to commence the reconciliation and rewriting of all of the foregoing; the last effort to bring cohesion to the governing documents took well over six months; as we can observe it did not completely accomplish its intended task. It will take probably close to a year, perhaps a bit longer to rewrite all of this to a standard that the Board will find acceptable. Adopting this proposal, despite Fred's generous suggestion — we can fix it later — merely increases the effort with no short term benefit. Mark's point states a stark reality of Director, Vice Director and SM elections. Running for office, particularly at the Director and Vice Director level is both an intimidating and daunting process. It may once have been the equivalent of a ham club officer election; it ceased having that charm over a decade ago. It is now a very expensive and time consuming effort. We want to encourage participation, but as Mark and Lynn have pointed out that due to the commitment in time and money that running for office requires, permitting anyone to front run the process by filing early creates the very real and substantial risk that the motion, rather than encouraging what its sponsors consider to be "transparency", it will instead serve as a very effective means to discourage both non-incumbents and those with good talents but less political experience from running. The motion offers the opportunity to permit "buying" an election rather than encouraging participation. Ria's point is equally valid and it also goes to encouraging broader participation. Due to the serious effort and expense in time and money and because we want to encourage participation, we should maintain a level playing field and permit the candidates to control the timing and place of their announcements. Another point is that this proposed change cannot be retroactive and apply to any current races; it can only as a matter of due process and fairness be applicable to future races. By that time the Legal Restructuring Committee will be well into its efforts. This motion will just complicate, with no measurable benefits, that process. Respectively, my opposition to the enactment of this motion remains. #yiv1919417716 #yiv1919417716 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv1919417716 #yiv1919417716 p.yiv1919417716MsoNormal, #yiv1919417716 li.yiv1919417716MsoNormal, #yiv1919417716 div.yiv1919417716MsoNormal {margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1919417716 p.yiv1919417716JansonNormal, #yiv1919417716 li.yiv1919417716JansonNormal, #yiv1919417716 div.yiv1919417716JansonNormal {margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv1919417716 p.yiv1919417716Janson11, #yiv1919417716 li.yiv1919417716Janson11, #yiv1919417716 div.yiv1919417716Janson11 {margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph;font-size:11.0pt;}#yiv1919417716 .yiv1919417716MsoChpDefault {font-family:Cambria;} _filtered {}#yiv1919417716 div.yiv1919417716WordSection1 {}#yiv1919417716 ______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office: 512-445-6262 Cell: 512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 ______________________________________ On 8/13/20 11:32 PM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote: My concern with this is that I believe that it’s up to the candidate to control the flow of information about her/his candidacy, up until the ARRL announces the slate. Taking this control away from the candidate can have real repercussions, especially for those who need to clear our intent to run for Director with our employer but wish to file anyway given the deadlines. I’m interested to hear a counter argument to this. I’m keeping an open mind. Ria N2RJ On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:21 PM <hopengarten@post.harvard.edu> wrote: Colleagues, I attach a Motion from E&E, v3. W7VO and I think it is a good idea. As does N6AA. I can’t recall, at this moment, hearing from anyone else. As for me, I don’t understand why we don’t release qualified candidate names as soon as they are approved for the ballot. Why wait? K6JAT objects. So as to not mischaracterize, here is his objection: “My recollection is that the concerns were with potential impacts and interactions with other rules, bylaws, procedures and time frames governing elections. Actually, since the Legal Restructuring Committee is going to be reviewing the Bylaws, wouldn't it be best to wait for that effort? I don't think there is any immediate crying need for this amendment.” W7VO and I hold the view that if there is an interaction of which we are not aware, and it becomes visible later, we can fix it later. But in the meantime, the membership has a right to know who has filed papers and is qualified as a candidate. K6JAT may ask that this motion be removed from the Consent Agenda. If so, there will be discussion in the normal course. In the meantime, if you see something that should be changed in this motion, please let me know. Better to bring up issues sooner than later. Fred Hopengarten, Esq. 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