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Re: [arrl-odv:19507] RE: [arrl-odv:19506] Vanity call sign Report and Order
by Chris Imlay 09 Nov '10

09 Nov '10

Yes, Dave, Section 97.19 IS badly worded. And there are actually two loopholes that would allow a club to have an unlimited number of club call signs despite the language in that revised Section and Section 97.17(d) as amended by the Order. Here's why: (1) a club could simply have multiple trustees, as you note; or (2) the same trustee could get multiple FRNs and use his or her own name multiple times. The ULS goes by FRN, not name, because licensees can have the same name and be two different persons. You can have multiple FRNs for the same Social Security Number or EIN (I know this because I do, and so do some of my clients). So, in order to fool the ULS (though perhaps not its successor, the consolidated database system now under development) it is easy to register for any number of FRNs and therefore any number of club licenses. As to the FCC's rather brusque dismissal of ARRL's proposals to increase the availability of Group A callsigns and other helpful proposals, the Executive Committee discussed, since we knew in advance that FCC was going to not adopt our proposals, how to respond. We discussed the two alternatives, depending on how the FCC addressed our proposals. If they simply said they were beyond the scope of the rulemaking, we would consider filing a separate petition for issuance of further rulemaking or a stand-alone petition. However, if the FCC dealt with our proposals substantively, we would have no choice but to either (1) forget it, or (2) file a Petition for Reconsideration. Since the FCC did in fact deal with our proposals in a substantive manner (albeit tersely and summarily, and in my view not well) we can either abandon the proposals or file a Petition for Reconsideration. The politics of the matter do not seem overly favorable to us, but now that this order is out, perhaps the EC might want to revisit the issue of ARRL's response to this Report and Order. There is time to consider this. A Petition for Reconsideration is due within 30 days of the date of publication of the Order in the Federal Register, which of course has not yet occurred and may not for a few weeks. 73, Chris W3KD Christopher D. Imlay Booth, Freret, Imlay & Tepper. P.C. 14356 Cape May Road Silver Spring, Maryland 20904-6011 (301) 384-5525 telephone (301) 384-6384 facsimile W3KD(a)ARRL.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ <dsumner(a)arrl.org> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 12:48 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:19507] RE: [arrl-odv:19506] Vanity call sign Report and Order I have read this over. The only possibly controversial parts that I have spotted are: 1. Club station trustees are limited to being trustee for one club. Present trustees are grandfathered. (New 97.17(d)). 2. The R&O says (paragraph 30) that clubs are limited to one vanity call sign, with existing holders grandfathered. However, as I read the rules as adopted, the FCC is assuming that a club can only name one person as a club station trustee. There appears to be a loophole that will permit a club to apply for multiple vanity call signs if they appoint multiple trustees. (Note to Chris Imlay: Chris, am I reading new 97.19(a) correctly? It looks badly worded to me.) 3. Unrelated to vanity call signs, the FCC chose to use this proceeding to delete the rule pertaining to RACES stations – which makes sense since there are no longer any RACES station licenses, but which probably will set off a flurry of comment that “the FCC has killed RACES.” 4. None of our proposals to expand the pools of available call signs were adopted, nor was our proposal to limit vanity call signs to U.S. citizens. Dave K1ZZ From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:49 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:19506] Vanity call sign Report and Order I haven’t read this yet. Dave <<FCC-10-189A1.pdf>> =

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EC Minutes
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

Here are the minutes of the October 23 Executive Committee meeting along with an updated summary of pending Board actions. Dave K1ZZ <<ecmin493.doc>> <<101023 Incomplete Board Actions.doc>>

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RE: Web Site Observation and Request
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

Thanks, Dick. It's nice to see your smiling face in the Member Directory. Re: #2, it's not a programming error. You're recognized whenever you log in from the same computer. If you ever happen to log in from someone else's computer, be sure to log out before you close the browser. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: dick(a)pobox.com [mailto:dick@pobox.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:45 PM To: arrl-odv Cc: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; Kramer, Harold, WJ1B Subject: Re: Web Site Observation and Request 4 NOV 2010 - 1644 CDT Hello Dave... I have done as you have requested and worked on my ARRL web site profile and inserted two pictures, one of which is now my "avatar". I have the following comments about this process. 1. I had repeat warnings about information being sent via non-secure Internet transmission. This is the major reason why I have delayed setting up my profile. 2. I have supposedly locked my profile data with a password. However, when I close my browser and then re-open it, I have access to my profile without using my password. If this is because the web site now recognizes me when I open the ARRL web site, that's OK. But if it's a programming error, it should be fixed immediately. 3. The photo I used for my avatar is also in the gallery. However, it is shown in landscape format that cuts off the top portion of the photo. The avatar image is OK. - Dick Isely, W9GIG

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[arrl-odv:19507] RE: [arrl-odv:19506] Vanity call sign Report and Order
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

I have read this over. The only possibly controversial parts that I have spotted are: 1. Club station trustees are limited to being trustee for one club. Present trustees are grandfathered. (New 97.17(d)). 2. The R&O says (paragraph 30) that clubs are limited to one vanity call sign, with existing holders grandfathered. However, as I read the rules as adopted, the FCC is assuming that a club can only name one person as a club station trustee. There appears to be a loophole that will permit a club to apply for multiple vanity call signs if they appoint multiple trustees. (Note to Chris Imlay: Chris, am I reading new 97.19(a) correctly? It looks badly worded to me.) 3. Unrelated to vanity call signs, the FCC chose to use this proceeding to delete the rule pertaining to RACES stations - which makes sense since there are no longer any RACES station licenses, but which probably will set off a flurry of comment that "the FCC has killed RACES." 4. None of our proposals to expand the pools of available call signs were adopted, nor was our proposal to limit vanity call signs to U.S. citizens. Dave K1ZZ From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:49 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:19506] Vanity call sign Report and Order I haven't read this yet. Dave <<FCC-10-189A1.pdf>>

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[arrl-odv:19506] Vanity call sign Report and Order
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

I haven't read this yet. Dave <<FCC-10-189A1.pdf>>

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[arrl-odv:19505] Re: RE: RE: Web site observation and request
by Brian Mileshosky 06 Nov '10

06 Nov '10

Definitely not meant to be at the top of the priority list, Dave, so no worries. Just one of those small things that ought not be a distraction to the more pressing stuff...but a suggested improvement for when it's more appropriate. Thanks again, Brian N5ZGT On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ wrote: > Brian, I also missed your point the first time around but now it's clear. It can't go to the top of the priority list but I'll see what we can do. > > Anyone who wants a JPEG of their photo taken at the January Board meeting, drop me a note off-list. > > Hope to see some of you in CW SS. Don't forget that the contest starts on Daylight time (5 PM EDT) and ends on Standard time (10 PM Sunday EST. > > 73, > Dave K1ZZ > > ________________________________ > > From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] > Sent: Fri 11/5/2010 2:41 AM > To: arrl-odv > Cc: arrl-odv > Subject: [arrl-odv:19500] Re: RE: Web site observation and request > > > > Granted. > > I don't think I'm explaining my point well enough. Put yourself in a > visitor's shoes, or even a member's shoes. You're curious about the > Division leadership of our organization. You go to > http://www.arrl.org/divisions. Lots of names. But all text. Nothing > personable, such as what the visitor is presented instead at > http://www.arrl.org/officers, which is a very appealing page since the > member/visitor can see who their leadership is, see that there's life > in the organization's leadership, and not just read a typed name. > > Of course, one can click on 15 different links to see pictures -- if > they want to click on those 15 different links, and if picture exist on > each of them, and if those links aren't first serving as links to > external, dedicated Division website such as what many of our Divisions > maintain. To me, that's pretty excessive. > > Just offering a point of view and recommendation on a more welcoming and > professional way to display the League's Divisions page without altering > any of its existing functionality, and without burdoning a member/visitor > to click on 15 different links to see that real people (not just text > names) make up its Board. > > 73, > Brian N5ZGT > > On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, G.P. Widin wrote: > >> Brian, et al., >> This has all been possible for quite some time. As an example, see: http://www.arrl.org/Groups/view/dakota >> >> >> -- >> 73, >> Greg, K�~GW >> Director, Dakota Division >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brian Mileshosky" <n5zgt(a)swcp.com> >> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> >> Cc: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> >> Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2010 5:08:10 PM >> Subject: [arrl-odv:19497] Re:RE: Web site observation and request >> >> I'm thinking not for use in our profiles, but for use on the "Divisions" >> page (http://www.arrl.org/divisions) that probably sees much more traffic >> from members and prospective members than our respective, individual >> profile pages. >> >> Very similar to http://www.arrl.org/officers >> >> Brian N5ZGT >> >> >> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Grant Hopper wrote: >> >>> We can actually do that via our "Avatar". If you follow Dave's instructions >>> and look for a blue hyperlink near the top of the page, you will see "update >>> your avatar" where you can upload a picture to be displayed. Keep in mind >>> that after you upload it, you have to specifically select the avatar in >>> order to enable it, even if you only have one. >>> >>> I uploaded a silly one to test it out and will now have to find an action >>> shot to replace it. In any case, it should give you all an idea of how it >>> works. >>> >>> 73, >>> Grant >>> KB7WSD >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:15 PM >>> To: arrl-odv >>> Cc: arrl-odv >>> Subject: [arrl-odv:19492] Re: Web site observation and request >>> >>> >>> Dave, >>> >>> Going along these lines, I wonder if there are plans to add photos of >>> Directors and Vice-Directors to the website, similar to how Officers' >>> pictures are shown. Doing so would add even more of a human face to the >>> organization's website. We did take pics at a previous Board meeting and >>> Board members might also supply their own. >>> >>> Just a thought to compliment your request below. >>> >>> 73, >>> Brian N5ZGT >>> >>> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Colleagues: >>>> >>>> Becoming directly involved in the Web project has been interesting and >>>> educational so far, and reasonably productive. I would like to share >>>> with you some of what I have learned, and make a request. >>>> >>>> The website is designed to increase members' sense of belonging to the >>>> ARRL community - to strengthen their ties to the organization and to one >>>> another. The principal tool for doing so is the Member Profile. The >>>> basic information contained in each member's profile is taken from our >>>> membership records. Members can add to this if they wish to do so, >>>> including an image (typically a photo of themselves) if they choose. How >>>> much information is shared with other members is entirely up to them. A >>>> member may choose to make no information or a lot of information >>>> available, or almost anywhere in between. If a member chooses to make >>>> any part of their profile public, they will be included in the Member >>>> Directory that can be searched by other members (and only by members). >>>> Of course, this is entirely at the member's option; it is essential to >>>> let people control their own personal information. >>>> >>>> The website design relies on the Member Profile as the primary means of >>>> providing contact information about active ARRL volunteers to members >>>> and others. In other words, our active volunteers now control how much >>>> contact information and other information about them is made public. If >>>> a volunteer appointee or elected official does not make any part of >>>> their profile public, or if they withhold basic contact information, >>>> then someone wanting to contact them will have to look elsewhere for the >>>> information. As of now, most of our section-level field appointees do >>>> not have public profiles. As a result, when you visit their section >>>> pages the only information you will see are their titles, names and call >>>> signs. >>>> >>>> My request is simply this. Currently there are 15 volunteer officers, >>>> directors and vice directors who have public profiles and 20 who do not. >>>> I would like to ask everyone who has not yet done so to set an example >>>> for other League officials by making at least your basic contact >>>> information available via your Member Profile. It's easy to do. >>>> >>>> 1. Assuming that you are already logged in, click on "Edit your >>>> Profile" just below the "Favorites" window on the home page (or go >>>> directly to http://www.arrl.org/Users/edit) >>>> 2. Click on the "Edit Profile" button. >>>> 3. Review the information that is displayed under "Profile >>>> Information." In particular, note the options available to you under >>>> "Public Location." The options are to not show a physical address, to >>>> show one of the addresses for you that are in the ARRL database, or to >>>> add a different address and show that one. For example, while the 225 >>>> Main St, Newington address is not in my membership record, I have >>>> created an additional address called "work" and am showing that address >>>> on my public profile. >>>> 4. Review the check boxes under "Permissions." Note especially the >>>> sixth box, "Allow ARRL to show my profile on the website." If that box >>>> is not checked, none of your profile will be made public. If it is >>>> checked, only the information you have elected not to hide will be >>>> shown. >>>> 5. If you want to indicate the activities you enjoy and how you >>>> became interested in amateur radio you can do so, but that's entirely >>>> optional. Reading some members' stories will give you a chuckle. >>>> 6. Don't forget to click the "Save" button at the very bottom of >>>> the page. Once you do that you will be returned to a screen with a >>>> yellow banner saying "Profile Updated" at the top. >>>> >>>> The Member Profile is potentially a powerful tool, but we need to build >>>> greater acceptance among our leadership volunteers or we will have to >>>> find another way of providing their contact information. >>>> >>>> Comments welcome to dsumner(a)arrl.org. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Dave K1ZZ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division >>> On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division >> On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org >> >> > > ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division > On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org > > ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org

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[arrl-odv:19504] Re:RE: RE: Web site observation and request
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 06 Nov '10

06 Nov '10

Brian, I also missed your point the first time around but now it's clear. It can't go to the top of the priority list but I'll see what we can do. Anyone who wants a JPEG of their photo taken at the January Board meeting, drop me a note off-list. Hope to see some of you in CW SS. Don't forget that the contest starts on Daylight time (5 PM EDT) and ends on Standard time (10 PM Sunday EST. 73, Dave K1ZZ ________________________________ From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] Sent: Fri 11/5/2010 2:41 AM To: arrl-odv Cc: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:19500] Re: RE: Web site observation and request Granted. I don't think I'm explaining my point well enough. Put yourself in a visitor's shoes, or even a member's shoes. You're curious about the Division leadership of our organization. You go to http://www.arrl.org/divisions. Lots of names. But all text. Nothing personable, such as what the visitor is presented instead at http://www.arrl.org/officers, which is a very appealing page since the member/visitor can see who their leadership is, see that there's life in the organization's leadership, and not just read a typed name. Of course, one can click on 15 different links to see pictures -- if they want to click on those 15 different links, and if picture exist on each of them, and if those links aren't first serving as links to external, dedicated Division website such as what many of our Divisions maintain. To me, that's pretty excessive. Just offering a point of view and recommendation on a more welcoming and professional way to display the League's Divisions page without altering any of its existing functionality, and without burdoning a member/visitor to click on 15 different links to see that real people (not just text names) make up its Board. 73, Brian N5ZGT On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, G.P. Widin wrote: > Brian, et al., > This has all been possible for quite some time. As an example, see: http://www.arrl.org/Groups/view/dakota > > > -- > 73, > Greg, KÃ~GW > Director, Dakota Division > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Mileshosky" <n5zgt(a)swcp.com> > To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> > Cc: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> > Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2010 5:08:10 PM > Subject: [arrl-odv:19497] Re:RE: Web site observation and request > > I'm thinking not for use in our profiles, but for use on the "Divisions" > page (http://www.arrl.org/divisions) that probably sees much more traffic > from members and prospective members than our respective, individual > profile pages. > > Very similar to http://www.arrl.org/officers > > Brian N5ZGT > > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Grant Hopper wrote: > >> We can actually do that via our "Avatar". If you follow Dave's instructions >> and look for a blue hyperlink near the top of the page, you will see "update >> your avatar" where you can upload a picture to be displayed. Keep in mind >> that after you upload it, you have to specifically select the avatar in >> order to enable it, even if you only have one. >> >> I uploaded a silly one to test it out and will now have to find an action >> shot to replace it. In any case, it should give you all an idea of how it >> works. >> >> 73, >> Grant >> KB7WSD >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] >> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:15 PM >> To: arrl-odv >> Cc: arrl-odv >> Subject: [arrl-odv:19492] Re: Web site observation and request >> >> >> Dave, >> >> Going along these lines, I wonder if there are plans to add photos of >> Directors and Vice-Directors to the website, similar to how Officers' >> pictures are shown. Doing so would add even more of a human face to the >> organization's website. We did take pics at a previous Board meeting and >> Board members might also supply their own. >> >> Just a thought to compliment your request below. >> >> 73, >> Brian N5ZGT >> >> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ wrote: >> >>> Dear Colleagues: >>> >>> Becoming directly involved in the Web project has been interesting and >>> educational so far, and reasonably productive. I would like to share >>> with you some of what I have learned, and make a request. >>> >>> The website is designed to increase members' sense of belonging to the >>> ARRL community - to strengthen their ties to the organization and to one >>> another. The principal tool for doing so is the Member Profile. The >>> basic information contained in each member's profile is taken from our >>> membership records. Members can add to this if they wish to do so, >>> including an image (typically a photo of themselves) if they choose. How >>> much information is shared with other members is entirely up to them. A >>> member may choose to make no information or a lot of information >>> available, or almost anywhere in between. If a member chooses to make >>> any part of their profile public, they will be included in the Member >>> Directory that can be searched by other members (and only by members). >>> Of course, this is entirely at the member's option; it is essential to >>> let people control their own personal information. >>> >>> The website design relies on the Member Profile as the primary means of >>> providing contact information about active ARRL volunteers to members >>> and others. In other words, our active volunteers now control how much >>> contact information and other information about them is made public. If >>> a volunteer appointee or elected official does not make any part of >>> their profile public, or if they withhold basic contact information, >>> then someone wanting to contact them will have to look elsewhere for the >>> information. As of now, most of our section-level field appointees do >>> not have public profiles. As a result, when you visit their section >>> pages the only information you will see are their titles, names and call >>> signs. >>> >>> My request is simply this. Currently there are 15 volunteer officers, >>> directors and vice directors who have public profiles and 20 who do not. >>> I would like to ask everyone who has not yet done so to set an example >>> for other League officials by making at least your basic contact >>> information available via your Member Profile. It's easy to do. >>> >>> 1. Assuming that you are already logged in, click on "Edit your >>> Profile" just below the "Favorites" window on the home page (or go >>> directly to http://www.arrl.org/Users/edit) >>> 2. Click on the "Edit Profile" button. >>> 3. Review the information that is displayed under "Profile >>> Information." In particular, note the options available to you under >>> "Public Location." The options are to not show a physical address, to >>> show one of the addresses for you that are in the ARRL database, or to >>> add a different address and show that one. For example, while the 225 >>> Main St, Newington address is not in my membership record, I have >>> created an additional address called "work" and am showing that address >>> on my public profile. >>> 4. Review the check boxes under "Permissions." Note especially the >>> sixth box, "Allow ARRL to show my profile on the website." If that box >>> is not checked, none of your profile will be made public. If it is >>> checked, only the information you have elected not to hide will be >>> shown. >>> 5. If you want to indicate the activities you enjoy and how you >>> became interested in amateur radio you can do so, but that's entirely >>> optional. Reading some members' stories will give you a chuckle. >>> 6. Don't forget to click the "Save" button at the very bottom of >>> the page. Once you do that you will be returned to a screen with a >>> yellow banner saying "Profile Updated" at the top. >>> >>> The Member Profile is potentially a powerful tool, but we need to build >>> greater acceptance among our leadership volunteers or we will have to >>> find another way of providing their contact information. >>> >>> Comments welcome to dsumner(a)arrl.org. >>> >>> 73, >>> Dave K1ZZ >>> >>> >> >> ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division >> On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org >> >> >> > > ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division > On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org > > ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org

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[arrl-odv:19503] RE: Web site observation and request
by Grant Hopper 05 Nov '10

05 Nov '10

While I appreciate Greg's comment that this "has been possible for quite some time" and the link, it is the link that makes it clear that these are two different things. Brian's point is (I think) that pictures should be right with our contact information on the first layer of the division page, and I agree. Greg's comment shows that we have a link capability from the division page to our individual division web pages and can have pictures there too. It's more information and flexibility, but it's also more clicks and that's always frustrating to have to navigate more to get to what you want. Some division links, like ours, goes to an 'off site' web page. That further complicates things if we are relying on 'division' web pages to show pictures of us. The easiest, most consistent thing (in my opinion) is to put head shots of each of us by our name on the master 'divisions' web page. Maybe I'll grow some hair before they take mine.... 73, Grant KB7WSD -----Original Message----- From: James F. Boehner MD [mailto:jboehner01@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:05 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: Web site observation and request I do agree! The officers page is very appealing, and you can immediately see your representatives of the ARRL in a consistent format. Bravo to the web designers on this format! The division page either brings you to the individual division website if one exists, or a link within the ARRL.ORG website. All division websites are in a different format, some with pictures of the Directors/Vice Directors on their home page, some without. Consistency within the website adds to professionalism, IMHO. If the Division page was set up like the officers pages, that would definitely add consistency. The "Learn more" link could link to the individual division web pages. Yes, I know the IT/IS department is overworked, but the most difficult part of changing the division page would most likely be collecting our pictures. Barry Shelley needs a picture....... '73 de JIM N2ZZ ARRL Vice Director Roanoke Division ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio -----Original Message----- From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:42 PM To: arrl-odv Cc: arrl-odv Subject: [Bulk] [arrl-odv:19500] Re: RE: Web site observation and request Granted. I don't think I'm explaining my point well enough. Put yourself in a visitor's shoes, or even a member's shoes. You're curious about the Division leadership of our organization. You go to http://www.arrl.org/divisions. Lots of names. But all text. Nothing personable, such as what the visitor is presented instead at http://www.arrl.org/officers, which is a very appealing page since the member/visitor can see who their leadership is, see that there's life in the organization's leadership, and not just read a typed name. Of course, one can click on 15 different links to see pictures -- if they want to click on those 15 different links, and if picture exist on each of them, and if those links aren't first serving as links to external, dedicated Division website such as what many of our Divisions maintain. To me, that's pretty excessive. Just offering a point of view and recommendation on a more welcoming and professional way to display the League's Divisions page without altering any of its existing functionality, and without burdoning a member/visitor to click on 15 different links to see that real people (not just text names) make up its Board. 73, Brian N5ZGT On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, G.P. Widin wrote: > Brian, et al., > This has all been possible for quite some time. As an example, see: http://www.arrl.org/Groups/view/dakota > > > -- > 73, > Greg, KÃGW > Director, Dakota Division > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Mileshosky" <n5zgt(a)swcp.com> > To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> > Cc: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> > Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2010 5:08:10 PM > Subject: [arrl-odv:19497] Re:RE: Web site observation and request > > I'm thinking not for use in our profiles, but for use on the "Divisions" > page (http://www.arrl.org/divisions) that probably sees much more traffic > from members and prospective members than our respective, individual > profile pages. > > Very similar to http://www.arrl.org/officers > > Brian N5ZGT > > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Grant Hopper wrote: > >> We can actually do that via our "Avatar". If you follow Dave's instructions >> and look for a blue hyperlink near the top of the page, you will see "update >> your avatar" where you can upload a picture to be displayed. Keep in mind >> that after you upload it, you have to specifically select the avatar in >> order to enable it, even if you only have one. >> >> I uploaded a silly one to test it out and will now have to find an action >> shot to replace it. In any case, it should give you all an idea of how it >> works. >> >> 73, >> Grant >> KB7WSD >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] >> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:15 PM >> To: arrl-odv >> Cc: arrl-odv >> Subject: [arrl-odv:19492] Re: Web site observation and request >> >> >> Dave, >> >> Going along these lines, I wonder if there are plans to add photos of >> Directors and Vice-Directors to the website, similar to how Officers' >> pictures are shown. Doing so would add even more of a human face to the >> organization's website. We did take pics at a previous Board meeting and >> Board members might also supply their own. >> >> Just a thought to compliment your request below. >> >> 73, >> Brian N5ZGT >> >> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ wrote: >> >>> Dear Colleagues: >>> >>> Becoming directly involved in the Web project has been interesting and >>> educational so far, and reasonably productive. I would like to share >>> with you some of what I have learned, and make a request. >>> >>> The website is designed to increase members' sense of belonging to the >>> ARRL community - to strengthen their ties to the organization and to one >>> another. The principal tool for doing so is the Member Profile. The >>> basic information contained in each member's profile is taken from our >>> membership records. Members can add to this if they wish to do so, >>> including an image (typically a photo of themselves) if they choose. How >>> much information is shared with other members is entirely up to them. A >>> member may choose to make no information or a lot of information >>> available, or almost anywhere in between. If a member chooses to make >>> any part of their profile public, they will be included in the Member >>> Directory that can be searched by other members (and only by members). >>> Of course, this is entirely at the member's option; it is essential to >>> let people control their own personal information. >>> >>> The website design relies on the Member Profile as the primary means of >>> providing contact information about active ARRL volunteers to members >>> and others. In other words, our active volunteers now control how much >>> contact information and other information about them is made public. If >>> a volunteer appointee or elected official does not make any part of >>> their profile public, or if they withhold basic contact information, >>> then someone wanting to contact them will have to look elsewhere for the >>> information. As of now, most of our section-level field appointees do >>> not have public profiles. As a result, when you visit their section >>> pages the only information you will see are their titles, names and call >>> signs. >>> >>> My request is simply this. Currently there are 15 volunteer officers, >>> directors and vice directors who have public profiles and 20 who do not. >>> I would like to ask everyone who has not yet done so to set an example >>> for other League officials by making at least your basic contact >>> information available via your Member Profile. It's easy to do. >>> >>> 1. Assuming that you are already logged in, click on "Edit your >>> Profile" just below the "Favorites" window on the home page (or go >>> directly to http://www.arrl.org/Users/edit) >>> 2. Click on the "Edit Profile" button. >>> 3. Review the information that is displayed under "Profile >>> Information." In particular, note the options available to you under >>> "Public Location." The options are to not show a physical address, to >>> show one of the addresses for you that are in the ARRL database, or to >>> add a different address and show that one. For example, while the 225 >>> Main St, Newington address is not in my membership record, I have >>> created an additional address called "work" and am showing that address >>> on my public profile. >>> 4. Review the check boxes under "Permissions." Note especially the >>> sixth box, "Allow ARRL to show my profile on the website." If that box >>> is not checked, none of your profile will be made public. If it is >>> checked, only the information you have elected not to hide will be >>> shown. >>> 5. If you want to indicate the activities you enjoy and how you >>> became interested in amateur radio you can do so, but that's entirely >>> optional. Reading some members' stories will give you a chuckle. >>> 6. Don't forget to click the "Save" button at the very bottom of >>> the page. Once you do that you will be returned to a screen with a >>> yellow banner saying "Profile Updated" at the top. >>> >>> The Member Profile is potentially a powerful tool, but we need to build >>> greater acceptance among our leadership volunteers or we will have to >>> find another way of providing their contact information. >>> >>> Comments welcome to dsumner(a)arrl.org. >>> >>> 73, >>> Dave K1ZZ >>> >>> >> >> ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division >> On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org >> >> >> > > ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division > On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org > > ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org

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Web site observation and request
by James F. Boehner MD 05 Nov '10

05 Nov '10

I do agree! The officers page is very appealing, and you can immediately see your representatives of the ARRL in a consistent format. Bravo to the web designers on this format! The division page either brings you to the individual division website if one exists, or a link within the ARRL.ORG website. All division websites are in a different format, some with pictures of the Directors/Vice Directors on their home page, some without. Consistency within the website adds to professionalism, IMHO. If the Division page was set up like the officers pages, that would definitely add consistency. The "Learn more" link could link to the individual division web pages. Yes, I know the IT/IS department is overworked, but the most difficult part of changing the division page would most likely be collecting our pictures. Barry Shelley needs a picture....... '73 de JIM N2ZZ ARRL Vice Director Roanoke Division ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio -----Original Message----- From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:42 PM To: arrl-odv Cc: arrl-odv Subject: [Bulk] [arrl-odv:19500] Re: RE: Web site observation and request Granted. I don't think I'm explaining my point well enough. Put yourself in a visitor's shoes, or even a member's shoes. You're curious about the Division leadership of our organization. You go to http://www.arrl.org/divisions. Lots of names. But all text. Nothing personable, such as what the visitor is presented instead at http://www.arrl.org/officers, which is a very appealing page since the member/visitor can see who their leadership is, see that there's life in the organization's leadership, and not just read a typed name. Of course, one can click on 15 different links to see pictures -- if they want to click on those 15 different links, and if picture exist on each of them, and if those links aren't first serving as links to external, dedicated Division website such as what many of our Divisions maintain. To me, that's pretty excessive. Just offering a point of view and recommendation on a more welcoming and professional way to display the League's Divisions page without altering any of its existing functionality, and without burdoning a member/visitor to click on 15 different links to see that real people (not just text names) make up its Board. 73, Brian N5ZGT On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, G.P. Widin wrote: > Brian, et al., > This has all been possible for quite some time. As an example, see: http://www.arrl.org/Groups/view/dakota > > > -- > 73, > Greg, KÃGW > Director, Dakota Division > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Mileshosky" <n5zgt(a)swcp.com> > To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> > Cc: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> > Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2010 5:08:10 PM > Subject: [arrl-odv:19497] Re:RE: Web site observation and request > > I'm thinking not for use in our profiles, but for use on the "Divisions" > page (http://www.arrl.org/divisions) that probably sees much more traffic > from members and prospective members than our respective, individual > profile pages. > > Very similar to http://www.arrl.org/officers > > Brian N5ZGT > > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Grant Hopper wrote: > >> We can actually do that via our "Avatar". If you follow Dave's instructions >> and look for a blue hyperlink near the top of the page, you will see "update >> your avatar" where you can upload a picture to be displayed. Keep in mind >> that after you upload it, you have to specifically select the avatar in >> order to enable it, even if you only have one. >> >> I uploaded a silly one to test it out and will now have to find an action >> shot to replace it. In any case, it should give you all an idea of how it >> works. >> >> 73, >> Grant >> KB7WSD >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] >> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:15 PM >> To: arrl-odv >> Cc: arrl-odv >> Subject: [arrl-odv:19492] Re: Web site observation and request >> >> >> Dave, >> >> Going along these lines, I wonder if there are plans to add photos of >> Directors and Vice-Directors to the website, similar to how Officers' >> pictures are shown. Doing so would add even more of a human face to the >> organization's website. We did take pics at a previous Board meeting and >> Board members might also supply their own. >> >> Just a thought to compliment your request below. >> >> 73, >> Brian N5ZGT >> >> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ wrote: >> >>> Dear Colleagues: >>> >>> Becoming directly involved in the Web project has been interesting and >>> educational so far, and reasonably productive. I would like to share >>> with you some of what I have learned, and make a request. >>> >>> The website is designed to increase members' sense of belonging to the >>> ARRL community - to strengthen their ties to the organization and to one >>> another. The principal tool for doing so is the Member Profile. The >>> basic information contained in each member's profile is taken from our >>> membership records. Members can add to this if they wish to do so, >>> including an image (typically a photo of themselves) if they choose. How >>> much information is shared with other members is entirely up to them. A >>> member may choose to make no information or a lot of information >>> available, or almost anywhere in between. If a member chooses to make >>> any part of their profile public, they will be included in the Member >>> Directory that can be searched by other members (and only by members). >>> Of course, this is entirely at the member's option; it is essential to >>> let people control their own personal information. >>> >>> The website design relies on the Member Profile as the primary means of >>> providing contact information about active ARRL volunteers to members >>> and others. In other words, our active volunteers now control how much >>> contact information and other information about them is made public. If >>> a volunteer appointee or elected official does not make any part of >>> their profile public, or if they withhold basic contact information, >>> then someone wanting to contact them will have to look elsewhere for the >>> information. As of now, most of our section-level field appointees do >>> not have public profiles. As a result, when you visit their section >>> pages the only information you will see are their titles, names and call >>> signs. >>> >>> My request is simply this. Currently there are 15 volunteer officers, >>> directors and vice directors who have public profiles and 20 who do not. >>> I would like to ask everyone who has not yet done so to set an example >>> for other League officials by making at least your basic contact >>> information available via your Member Profile. It's easy to do. >>> >>> 1. Assuming that you are already logged in, click on "Edit your >>> Profile" just below the "Favorites" window on the home page (or go >>> directly to http://www.arrl.org/Users/edit) >>> 2. Click on the "Edit Profile" button. >>> 3. Review the information that is displayed under "Profile >>> Information." In particular, note the options available to you under >>> "Public Location." The options are to not show a physical address, to >>> show one of the addresses for you that are in the ARRL database, or to >>> add a different address and show that one. For example, while the 225 >>> Main St, Newington address is not in my membership record, I have >>> created an additional address called "work" and am showing that address >>> on my public profile. >>> 4. Review the check boxes under "Permissions." Note especially the >>> sixth box, "Allow ARRL to show my profile on the website." If that box >>> is not checked, none of your profile will be made public. If it is >>> checked, only the information you have elected not to hide will be >>> shown. >>> 5. If you want to indicate the activities you enjoy and how you >>> became interested in amateur radio you can do so, but that's entirely >>> optional. Reading some members' stories will give you a chuckle. >>> 6. Don't forget to click the "Save" button at the very bottom of >>> the page. Once you do that you will be returned to a screen with a >>> yellow banner saying "Profile Updated" at the top. >>> >>> The Member Profile is potentially a powerful tool, but we need to build >>> greater acceptance among our leadership volunteers or we will have to >>> find another way of providing their contact information. >>> >>> Comments welcome to dsumner(a)arrl.org. >>> >>> 73, >>> Dave K1ZZ >>> >>> >> >> ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division >> On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org >> >> >> > > ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division > On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org > > ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org

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RE: [arrl-odv:19500] Re: RE: Web site observation and request
by Jim Weaver K8JE 05 Nov '10

05 Nov '10

Brian, Tnx for your explanation. Your question makes excellent sense. This makes me wonder why photos were taken of us a year or so ago. At the time it was said the photos were to go on the new website. Maybe Dave will let us know if they will be used to complete the division page or . . . ? Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040; Tel. 513-459-1661 ARRL, The national association for Amateur Radio _____ From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:42 PM To: arrl-odv Cc: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:19500] Re: RE: Web site observation and request Granted. I don't think I'm explaining my point well enough. Put yourself in a visitor's shoes, or even a member's shoes. You're curious about the Division leadership of our organization. You go to http://www.arrl.org/divisions. Lots of names. But all text. Nothing personable, such as what the visitor is presented instead at http://www.arrl.org/officers, which is a very appealing page since the member/visitor can see who their leadership is, see that there's life in the organization's leadership, and not just read a typed name. Of course, one can click on 15 different links to see pictures -- if they want to click on those 15 different links, and if picture exist on each of them, and if those links aren't first serving as links to external, dedicated Division website such as what many of our Divisions maintain. To me, that's pretty excessive. Just offering a point of view and recommendation on a more welcoming and professional way to display the League's Divisions page without altering any of its existing functionality, and without burdoning a member/visitor to click on 15 different links to see that real people (not just text names) make up its Board. 73, Brian N5ZGT On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, G.P. Widin wrote: > Brian, et al., > This has all been possible for quite some time. As an example, see: http://www.arrl.org/Groups/view/dakota > > > -- > 73, > Greg, KÃGW > Director, Dakota Division > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Mileshosky" <n5zgt(a)swcp.com> > To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> > Cc: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> > Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2010 5:08:10 PM > Subject: [arrl-odv:19497] Re:RE: Web site observation and request > > I'm thinking not for use in our profiles, but for use on the "Divisions" > page (http://www.arrl.org/divisions) that probably sees much more traffic > from members and prospective members than our respective, individual > profile pages. > > Very similar to http://www.arrl.org/officers > > Brian N5ZGT > > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Grant Hopper wrote: > >> We can actually do that via our "Avatar". If you follow Dave's instructions >> and look for a blue hyperlink near the top of the page, you will see "update >> your avatar" where you can upload a picture to be displayed. Keep in mind >> that after you upload it, you have to specifically select the avatar in >> order to enable it, even if you only have one. >> >> I uploaded a silly one to test it out and will now have to find an action >> shot to replace it. In any case, it should give you all an idea of how it >> works. >> >> 73, >> Grant >> KB7WSD >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] >> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:15 PM >> To: arrl-odv >> Cc: arrl-odv >> Subject: [arrl-odv:19492] Re: Web site observation and request >> >> >> Dave, >> >> Going along these lines, I wonder if there are plans to add photos of >> Directors and Vice-Directors to the website, similar to how Officers' >> pictures are shown. Doing so would add even more of a human face to the >> organization's website. We did take pics at a previous Board meeting and >> Board members might also supply their own. >> >> Just a thought to compliment your request below. >> >> 73, >> Brian N5ZGT >> >> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ wrote: >> >>> Dear Colleagues: >>> >>> Becoming directly involved in the Web project has been interesting and >>> educational so far, and reasonably productive. I would like to share >>> with you some of what I have learned, and make a request. >>> >>> The website is designed to increase members' sense of belonging to the >>> ARRL community - to strengthen their ties to the organization and to one >>> another. The principal tool for doing so is the Member Profile. The >>> basic information contained in each member's profile is taken from our >>> membership records. Members can add to this if they wish to do so, >>> including an image (typically a photo of themselves) if they choose. How >>> much information is shared with other members is entirely up to them. A >>> member may choose to make no information or a lot of information >>> available, or almost anywhere in between. If a member chooses to make >>> any part of their profile public, they will be included in the Member >>> Directory that can be searched by other members (and only by members). >>> Of course, this is entirely at the member's option; it is essential to >>> let people control their own personal information. >>> >>> The website design relies on the Member Profile as the primary means of >>> providing contact information about active ARRL volunteers to members >>> and others. In other words, our active volunteers now control how much >>> contact information and other information about them is made public. If >>> a volunteer appointee or elected official does not make any part of >>> their profile public, or if they withhold basic contact information, >>> then someone wanting to contact them will have to look elsewhere for the >>> information. As of now, most of our section-level field appointees do >>> not have public profiles. As a result, when you visit their section >>> pages the only information you will see are their titles, names and call >>> signs. >>> >>> My request is simply this. Currently there are 15 volunteer officers, >>> directors and vice directors who have public profiles and 20 who do not. >>> I would like to ask everyone who has not yet done so to set an example >>> for other League officials by making at least your basic contact >>> information available via your Member Profile. It's easy to do. >>> >>> 1. Assuming that you are already logged in, click on "Edit your >>> Profile" just below the "Favorites" window on the home page (or go >>> directly to http://www.arrl.org/Users/edit) >>> 2. Click on the "Edit Profile" button. >>> 3. Review the information that is displayed under "Profile >>> Information." In particular, note the options available to you under >>> "Public Location." The options are to not show a physical address, to >>> show one of the addresses for you that are in the ARRL database, or to >>> add a different address and show that one. For example, while the 225 >>> Main St, Newington address is not in my membership record, I have >>> created an additional address called "work" and am showing that address >>> on my public profile. >>> 4. Review the check boxes under "Permissions." Note especially the >>> sixth box, "Allow ARRL to show my profile on the website." If that box >>> is not checked, none of your profile will be made public. If it is >>> checked, only the information you have elected not to hide will be >>> shown. >>> 5. If you want to indicate the activities you enjoy and how you >>> became interested in amateur radio you can do so, but that's entirely >>> optional. Reading some members' stories will give you a chuckle. >>> 6. Don't forget to click the "Save" button at the very bottom of >>> the page. Once you do that you will be returned to a screen with a >>> yellow banner saying "Profile Updated" at the top. >>> >>> The Member Profile is potentially a powerful tool, but we need to build >>> greater acceptance among our leadership volunteers or we will have to >>> find another way of providing their contact information. >>> >>> Comments welcome to dsumner(a)arrl.org. >>> >>> 73, >>> Dave K1ZZ >>> >>> >> >> ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division >> On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org >> >> >> > > ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division > On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org > > ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3237 - Release Date: 11/04/10

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