June 2009 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[arrl-odv:17859] Re: Fwd: [Fwd: ARRL membership]
by G.P. Widin 24 Jun '09

24 Jun '09

Bob, #1--I haven't heard this from anyone. #2--Your member says: So I renew my ARRL membership, and I get the usual envelope stuffed with junk and my membership card, and now I get told that unless I become a Diamond Club "brass" member, I can't have access to the last 4 years of QST on-line. Unless I haven't been paying attention, we NEVER had access to the last 4 years of QST online. It never was online (except random selected articles) until the last year or so. So no one took anything away, he just didn't get it all. IMHO, I continue to feel, however, that the decision on what to make available with QST online was a policy decision, not an operational one, and the Board should have been consulted on how online access would be offered. -- 73, Greg, KØGW Vice Director, Dakota Division ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Vallio" <rbvallio(a)gmail.com> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:08:29 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [arrl-odv:17855] Fwd: [Fwd: ARRL membership] Another member who is resigning because of our Diamond Club member preferential access treatment, as opposed to non-Diamond club members. Are the rest of you seeing similar response from your members? Bob -- W6RGG ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bob Vallio < rbvallio(a)gmail.com > Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: ARRL membership] To: Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV < kh6gjv(a)arrl.org > Cc: dsumner(a)arrl.org , mhobart(a)arrl.org Thanks, Bill. This is not an isolated response, and I'm not sure how many members we have lost since this system was instituted. Perhaps the Board will weigh in with their opinion in July. I'll copy your mail to our Board mailing list, for comments. 73, Bob -- W6RGG On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV < kh6gjv(a)arrl.org > wrote: Below, I am forwarding an email I received from an ARRL member. FYI. -- 73, Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV Section Manager San Francisco Section ARRL - the national association for Amateur Radio 707 544-4944 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: ARRL membership Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:14:28 -0700 From: Tim Bosma <w6mu(a)comcast.net> To: Bill Hillendahl <kh6gjv(a)arrl.net> So I renew my ARRL membership, and I get the usual envelope stuffed with junk and my membership card, and now I get told that unless I become a Diamond Club "brass" member, I can't have access to the last 4 years of QST on-line. I've donated more hours than I can count to Ham Radio since 1983. I've always supported the ARRL, but this extortion to get access to current QST's online is a deal breaker for me because after I read my QST's I donate them to folks interested in becoming hams, - especially younger students at SRJC who are interested in Ham Radio. Now that I've lost access to the most current online QSTs I will no longer do so. I will increase my support of AMSAT with the money I used to spend for my ARRL membership. Hell, I may even subscribe to CQ again. Feel free to pass this on to her and Dave Summers - when my membership expires, I quit. 73 Tim w6mu former ARRL supporter #0001248365

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[arrl-odv:17858] Re:RE: RE: Fwd: [Fwd: ARRL membership]
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 24 Jun '09

24 Jun '09

In addition, the news content is available online immediately (i.e. before publication in QST) and the Product Reviews are available to all members online as soon as they are published (e.g. the July 2009 Product Reviews are already up). Dave -----Original Message----- From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:48 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:17857] Re: RE: Fwd: [Fwd: ARRL membership] Bob - W6MU said, "Now that I've lost access to the most current online QSTs I will no longer do so." He never had access to the full on-line versions of QST. He hasn't lost anything. http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2009/01/29/10599/ I've had lots and lots of compliments about having QST online and only one or two complaints. If someone questions why we hold back the last few years I say that it is available to those who are the League's strongest supporters, and that we have had problems with content being pirated and want to preserve our ability to keep the ARRL financially viable. I also tell them that one of our long-term questions is how to continue to survive as paper publishing becomes more expensive and we need to move to digital distribution. The newspaper industry is not a model we want to follow so far... -- Tom At 08:25 AM 6/24/2009, Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ wrote: >Actually he hasn't resigned - his membership runs through July 2012. > >Dave K1ZZ > > >From: Bob Vallio [mailto:rbvallio@gmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:08 AM >To: arrl-odv >Subject: [arrl-odv:17855] Fwd: [Fwd: ARRL membership] > >Another member who is resigning because of our Diamond Club member preferential access treatment, as opposed to non-Diamond club members. Are the rest of you seeing similar response from your members? > >Bob -- W6RGG > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Bob Vallio <<mailto:rbvallio@gmail.com>rbvallio(a)gmail.com> >Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:58 PM >Subject: Re: [Fwd: ARRL membership] >To: Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV <<mailto:kh6gjv@arrl.org>kh6gjv(a)arrl.org> >Cc: <mailto:dsumner@arrl.org>dsumner(a)arrl.org, <mailto:mhobart@arrl.org>mhobart(a)arrl.org > > >Thanks, Bill. This is not an isolated response, and I'm not sure how many members we have lost since this system was instituted. Perhaps the Board will weigh in with their opinion in July. I'll copy your mail to our Board mailing list, for comments. > >73, Bob -- W6RGG > > > > >On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV <<mailto:kh6gjv@arrl.org>kh6gjv(a)arrl.org> wrote: >Below, I am forwarding an email I received from an ARRL member. FYI. > > > >-- >73, > >Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV >Section Manager >San Francisco Section >ARRL - the national association for Amateur Radio >707 544-4944 > > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: >ARRL membership >Date: >Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:14:28 -0700 >From: >Tim Bosma <mailto:w6mu@comcast.net><w6mu(a)comcast.net> >To: >Bill Hillendahl <mailto:kh6gjv@arrl.net><kh6gjv(a)arrl.net> > > >So I renew my ARRL membership, and I get the usual envelope stuffed >with junk and my membership card, and now I get told that unless I >become a Diamond Club "brass" member, I can't have access to the last >4 years of QST on-line. > >I've donated more hours than I can count to Ham Radio since 1983. >I've always supported the ARRL, but this extortion to get access to >current QST's online is a deal breaker for me because after I read my >QST's I donate them to folks interested in becoming hams, - especially >younger students at SRJC who are interested in Ham Radio. Now that >I've lost access to the most current online QSTs I will no longer do so. > >I will increase my support of AMSAT with the money I used to spend for >my ARRL membership. Hell, I may even subscribe to CQ again. > >Feel free to pass this on to her and Dave Summers - when my membership >expires, I quit. > > >73 >Tim w6mu >former ARRL supporter #0001248365 ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[arrl-odv:17857] Re: RE: Fwd: [Fwd: ARRL membership]
by Tom Frenaye 24 Jun '09

24 Jun '09

Bob - W6MU said, "Now that I've lost access to the most current online QSTs I will no longer do so." He never had access to the full on-line versions of QST. He hasn't lost anything. http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2009/01/29/10599/ I've had lots and lots of compliments about having QST online and only one or two complaints. If someone questions why we hold back the last few years I say that it is available to those who are the League's strongest supporters, and that we have had problems with content being pirated and want to preserve our ability to keep the ARRL financially viable. I also tell them that one of our long-term questions is how to continue to survive as paper publishing becomes more expensive and we need to move to digital distribution. The newspaper industry is not a model we want to follow so far... -- Tom At 08:25 AM 6/24/2009, Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ wrote: >Actually he hasnt resigned his membership runs through July 2012. > >Dave K1ZZ > > >From: Bob Vallio [mailto:rbvallio@gmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:08 AM >To: arrl-odv >Subject: [arrl-odv:17855] Fwd: [Fwd: ARRL membership] > >Another member who is resigning because of our Diamond Club member preferential access treatment, as opposed to non-Diamond club members. Are the rest of you seeing similar response from your members? > >Bob -- W6RGG > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Bob Vallio <<mailto:rbvallio@gmail.com>rbvallio(a)gmail.com> >Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:58 PM >Subject: Re: [Fwd: ARRL membership] >To: Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV <<mailto:kh6gjv@arrl.org>kh6gjv(a)arrl.org> >Cc: <mailto:dsumner@arrl.org>dsumner(a)arrl.org, <mailto:mhobart@arrl.org>mhobart(a)arrl.org > > >Thanks, Bill. This is not an isolated response, and I'm not sure how many members we have lost since this system was instituted. Perhaps the Board will weigh in with their opinion in July. I'll copy your mail to our Board mailing list, for comments. > >73, Bob -- W6RGG > > > > >On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV <<mailto:kh6gjv@arrl.org>kh6gjv(a)arrl.org> wrote: >Below, I am forwarding an email I received from an ARRL member. FYI. > > > >-- >73, > >Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV >Section Manager >San Francisco Section >ARRL - the national association for Amateur Radio >707 544-4944 > > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: >ARRL membership >Date: >Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:14:28 -0700 >From: >Tim Bosma <mailto:w6mu@comcast.net><w6mu(a)comcast.net> >To: >Bill Hillendahl <mailto:kh6gjv@arrl.net><kh6gjv(a)arrl.net> > > >So I renew my ARRL membership, and I get the usual envelope stuffed >with junk and my membership card, and now I get told that unless I >become a Diamond Club "brass" member, I can't have access to the last >4 years of QST on-line. > >I've donated more hours than I can count to Ham Radio since 1983. >I've always supported the ARRL, but this extortion to get access to >current QST's online is a deal breaker for me because after I read my >QST's I donate them to folks interested in becoming hams, - especially >younger students at SRJC who are interested in Ham Radio. Now that >I've lost access to the most current online QSTs I will no longer do so. > >I will increase my support of AMSAT with the money I used to spend for >my ARRL membership. Hell, I may even subscribe to CQ again. > >Feel free to pass this on to her and Dave Summers - when my membership >expires, I quit. > > >73 >Tim w6mu >former ARRL supporter #0001248365 ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[arrl-odv:17856] RE: [arrl-odv:17855] Fwd: [Fwd: ARRL membership]
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 24 Jun '09

24 Jun '09

Actually he hasn't resigned - his membership runs through July 2012. Dave K1ZZ From: Bob Vallio [mailto:rbvallio@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:08 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:17855] Fwd: [Fwd: ARRL membership] Another member who is resigning because of our Diamond Club member preferential access treatment, as opposed to non-Diamond club members. Are the rest of you seeing similar response from your members? Bob -- W6RGG ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bob Vallio <rbvallio(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: ARRL membership] To: Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV <kh6gjv(a)arrl.org> Cc: dsumner(a)arrl.org, mhobart(a)arrl.org Thanks, Bill. This is not an isolated response, and I'm not sure how many members we have lost since this system was instituted. Perhaps the Board will weigh in with their opinion in July. I'll copy your mail to our Board mailing list, for comments. 73, Bob -- W6RGG On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV <kh6gjv(a)arrl.org> wrote: Below, I am forwarding an email I received from an ARRL member. FYI. -- 73, Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV Section Manager San Francisco Section ARRL - the national association for Amateur Radio 707 544-4944 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: ARRL membership Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:14:28 -0700 From: Tim Bosma <w6mu(a)comcast.net> <mailto:w6mu@comcast.net> To: Bill Hillendahl <kh6gjv(a)arrl.net> <mailto:kh6gjv@arrl.net> So I renew my ARRL membership, and I get the usual envelope stuffed with junk and my membership card, and now I get told that unless I become a Diamond Club "brass" member, I can't have access to the last 4 years of QST on-line. I've donated more hours than I can count to Ham Radio since 1983. I've always supported the ARRL, but this extortion to get access to current QST's online is a deal breaker for me because after I read my QST's I donate them to folks interested in becoming hams, - especially younger students at SRJC who are interested in Ham Radio. Now that I've lost access to the most current online QSTs I will no longer do so. I will increase my support of AMSAT with the money I used to spend for my ARRL membership. Hell, I may even subscribe to CQ again. Feel free to pass this on to her and Dave Summers - when my membership expires, I quit. 73 Tim w6mu former ARRL supporter #0001248365

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[arrl-odv:17855] Fwd: [Fwd: ARRL membership]
by Bob Vallio 24 Jun '09

24 Jun '09

Another member who is resigning because of our Diamond Club member preferential access treatment, as opposed to non-Diamond club members. Are the rest of you seeing similar response from your members? Bob -- W6RGG ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bob Vallio <rbvallio(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: ARRL membership] To: Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV <kh6gjv(a)arrl.org> Cc: dsumner(a)arrl.org, mhobart(a)arrl.org Thanks, Bill. This is not an isolated response, and I'm not sure how many members we have lost since this system was instituted. Perhaps the Board will weigh in with their opinion in July. I'll copy your mail to our Board mailing list, for comments. 73, Bob -- W6RGG On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV <kh6gjv(a)arrl.org>wrote: > Below, I am forwarding an email I received from an ARRL member. FYI. > > -- > 73, > > Bill Hillendahl KH6GJV > Section Manager > San Francisco Section > ARRL - the national association for Amateur Radio > 707 544-4944 > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: ARRL membership Date: Tue, > 23 Jun 2009 21:14:28 -0700 From: Tim Bosma <w6mu(a)comcast.net><w6mu(a)comcast.net> To: > Bill Hillendahl <kh6gjv(a)arrl.net> <kh6gjv(a)arrl.net> > > So I renew my ARRL membership, and I get the usual envelope stuffed > with junk and my membership card, and now I get told that unless I > become a Diamond Club "brass" member, I can't have access to the last > 4 years of QST on-line. > > I've donated more hours than I can count to Ham Radio since 1983. > I've always supported the ARRL, but this extortion to get access to > current QST's online is a deal breaker for me because after I read my > QST's I donate them to folks interested in becoming hams, - especially > younger students at SRJC who are interested in Ham Radio. Now that > I've lost access to the most current online QSTs I will no longer do so. > > I will increase my support of AMSAT with the money I used to spend for > my ARRL membership. Hell, I may even subscribe to CQ again. > > Feel free to pass this on to her and Dave Summers - when my membership > expires, I quit. > > > 73 > Tim w6mu > former ARRL supporter #0001248365 > > > >

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[arrl-odv:17854] Open Webinar on HR 2160
by Bill Edgar 23 Jun '09

23 Jun '09

The Atlantic Division is sponsoring a webinar about HR 2160 for our members on Thursday, June 25th at 8:00pm EDT. We have space for 1,000 people to listen and view this presentation. Dave Sumner was gracious enough to offer his help in doing this presentation. You are welcome to invite your division members to join in with us. There is no cost for attendees to listen/view this presentation. You are also invited to register as well to attend. Participants must register in order to listen/view the presentation and all they need to do to register is to click on the URL: https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/596535705 - Bill N3LLR _____ Please remove text above this line. http://img.gotomeeting.com/g2mimages/1x1.gif http://www1.gotomeeting.com/g2w/images/596535705/1207681219639932/embed.jpg Atlantic Division Update on HR 2160 Join us for a Webinar on June 25 <https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/596535705> http://img.gotomeeting.com/g2mimages/webinar/themes/basic/button_registerNow .gif Space is limited. Reserve your Webinar seat now at: https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/596535705 The purpose of this webinar is to update Atlantic Division members on HR 2160 and why it is important to solicit support for this important proposed legislation. The House of Representatives is presently considering new legislation to promote and encourage the valuable public service, disaster relief, and emergency communications provided on a volunteer basis by licensees of the Federal Communications Commission in the Amateur Radio Service, by undertaking a study of the uses of amateur radio for emergency and disaster relief communications, by identifying unnecessary or unreasonable impediments to the deployment of Amateur Radio emergency and disaster relief communications, and by making recommendations for relief of such unreasonable restrictions so as to expand the uses of amateur radio communications in Homeland Security planning and response. Specifically, the "Amateur Radio Emergency Communications Enhancement Act of 2009 - Directs the Secretary of Homeland Security to: (1) study the uses and capabilities of amateur radio communications in emergencies and disaster relief; (2) use the expertise of the American Radio Relay League in the study; and (3) report to Congress." (full text of the legislation is available at http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-2160) The bill is presently in the House Committee on Energy and Commerce for consideration. According to Dan Henderson, N1ND, the ARRL Regulatory Information Manager, "HR 2160 stands as the first step in trying to address the long standing problem of extending the protections afforded Amateur Radio operators under PRB-1 to deed restrictions and covenants. To be clear, passing HR 2160 is not going to achieve that goal right away. But it will help lay the ground work by assessing the impact such restrictions have on our ability to train for and respond to disasters and other emergencies." To help you learn more about the bill and the support that you can provide, the Atlantic Division is presenting a webinar on Thursday, June 25, from 8:00 PM until 9:30 PM EDT. Dave Sumner, K1ZZ, the Chief Executive Officer of the ARRL, will provide further background on the bill and on the ways in which you can provide support. Title: Atlantic Division Update on HR 2160 Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009 Time: 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM EDT After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the Webinar. System Requirements PC-based attendees Required: WindowsR 2000, XP Home, XP Pro, 2003 Server, Vista MacintoshR-based attendees Required: Mac OSR X 10.4 (TigerR) or newer http://img.gotomeeting.com/g2mimages/1x1.gif http://www1.gotomeeting.com/g2w/images/596535705/5762014171494461/embed.jpg http://img.gotomeeting.com/g2mimages/1x1.gif

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RE: [arrl-odv:17852] Jack, W5FG
by K8JE 23 Jun '09

23 Jun '09

Dave, I accept that Jack sincerely believes in the significance of his crusade, but he certainly has things out of proportion to say the very least. I had an all-to-long discussion with him somewhere along the line and hope FCC's denial ends the issue. I doubt it. Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org, Tel.: 513-459-1661 ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio _____ From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:52 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:17852] Jack, W5FG Those of you who have been on the receiving end of letters from Jack Najork, W5FG will find the attached to be of interest. Dave K1ZZ <<DA-09-1378A1.pdf>>

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[arrl-odv:17852] Jack, W5FG
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 23 Jun '09

23 Jun '09

Those of you who have been on the receiving end of letters from Jack Najork, W5FG will find the attached to be of interest. Dave K1ZZ <<DA-09-1378A1.pdf>>

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[arrl-odv:17851] QSO B4
by Kay Craigie 20 Jun '09

20 Jun '09

My last post was that one which got stuck in cyberspace for days. Sorry for the dupe. No idea how that happened. 73 - Kay N3KN

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RE: [arrl-odv:17846] Re:RE: FCC turns 75 Today
by K8JE 20 Jun '09

20 Jun '09

David, As regards all things that involve radio waves, Positive and Negative a terms that relate to the state of being Neutral. I learned this from Doctor Rick during the time I was allowed to rub elbows with him at the "front table." >From the wisdom the good Doctor shared with me I can assure that the "Positive" action mentioned previously at best would move the degree of Negative Action taken by the Commissi0n only part-way toward Neutrality. ;-) Jim Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org, Tel.: 513-459-1661 ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio -----Original Message----- From: David A. Norris [mailto:k5uz@suddenlink.net] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 6:12 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:17846] Re:RE: FCC turns 75 Today Spur them into positive action? I think the better word is SCARE them into positive action! Hi Hi! Hey Rick, do you still have that old "business card" you used to carry??? 73 David A. Norris, K5UZ Vice Director, Delta Div. -----Original Message----- From: jfenster(a)pacifier.com [mailto:jfenster@pacifier.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 2:14 PM To: arrl-odv Cc: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:1784] Re: FCC turns 75 Today But, having Rick jump out of a cake wearing a bikini might spur them into some positive and productive action!!! > > 73, > K5UR > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Mileshosky <n5zgt(a)swcp.com> > To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> > Sent: Fri, Jun 19, 2009 10:52 am > Subject: [arrl-odv:17840] FCC turns 75 Today > > > I see a story on ARRL's website about FCC turning 75 today.? > ? > I'm wondering if ODV would be amenable with tasking Rick Roderick to > calling them up and wishing them happy birthday. Maybe having him throw a > party for them? Delivering a cake? (Hopefully without Rick inside of it)? > ? > 73,? > Brian N5ZGT? > ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division? > On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org? > ? > >

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