May 2009 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[arrl-odv:17746] Re: RE: Clubs in PA14?
by Frank Fallon 12 May '09

12 May '09

Jim, Red Herring Alert!!!!!!! Our 501 c 3 status is not the issue here. If we were to mail all affiliated clubs our concern is with ARRL members. There should be NO worry about our 501 c3 status as we are clearly NOT trying to get to non members. If we continue to hide behind the 501 c 3 red herring we will NEVER be successful with any legislation. It's a bit like Tank generals fighting an insurgency in Afghanistan. The real issue is as has been stated that clubs cover many districts and just the one we want to target. BTW: Our real problem with using web mailings to districts is that while our software may call up 112 ARRL members in a district, the "real" number of those who will allow us to send them e-mail will always be much lower. It has been my experience that the number is close to half or 50%. Frank....N2FF.......... K8JE wrote: > Dave, > > The following questions relates to the reason that we do not make positions > in the Legislative Action Program available to non-ARRL members. > > Affiliated clubs are loosely required to have no fewer than 51% percent of > their members belong to ARRL. If one assumes that all clubs have no more > than 51% of members as ARR: members, would there be a concern that sending > requests for support of our legislative activities to all affiliated clubs > represent a risk of the League promoting these activities to an excessive > number of nonmembers? Would we need to be sure to send these requests only > to clubs that have a minimal percent (to be defined) of ARRL members rather > than to send them to all affiliated clubs? > > Jim > > Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director > ARRL Great Lakes Division > 5065 Bethany Rd. > Mason, OH 45040 > E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org, Tel.: 513-459-1661 > ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio > >

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[arrl-odv:17745] RE: [arrl-odv:17737] ARRL QSL card order timeliness
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 12 May '09

12 May '09

The finish that people prefer on our cards requires a higher than normal minimum number of cards. Dave Patton was running around last week rounding up additional orders to put with Brian's. Dave K1ZZ From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:50 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:17737] ARRL QSL card order timeliness All - Has anyone experienced a really long delay in receiving their ARRL QSL card order? I placed my order with Dave Patton - who I'm not blaming in any way, shape, or form in this email - on February 1. I received my proof via email on about April 1. Today is May 11 and I'm still waiting to receive cards in the mail. I've not contacted Gennady UX5XO (print shop) directly since I don't want to step on Dave Patton's toes. Patton mentioned that Gennady UX5XO needs a certain number of QSL cards ordered before he can do a print run. That doesn't quite make sense to me since UX5XO probably fulfills many custom orders on a regular basis. At any rate, I ordered 1,000. UX5XO's website says "Cards will be printed within 3-4 weeks upon receiving order and payment. Post delivery takes 1-2 weeks." Close to 14 weeks after placing my initial order, I'm still waiting. Has anyone else had a similar experience with their ARRL QSL cards via UX5XO and, if so, should we consider doing business with another print shop that's more responsive, regardless of whom the paying customer is? 73, Brian N5ZGT ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division www.RockyMountainDivision.org

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[arrl-odv:17744] Erratic Lyris
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 12 May '09

12 May '09

As Kay and others have observed, our email reflectors using Lyris software are currently quite erratic in speed of delivery. A message I sent yesterday morning had not been delivered to 15 people on the ODV reflector (including me) as of close of business. My copy finally showed up 10-1/2 hours after I sent it. I know this is frustrating. IT staff is working on a short-term fix but the long-term solution is likely to require different software. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Kay Craigie [mailto:n3kn@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:11 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:17740] Re:ARRL QSL order timeliness Sorry if this is a dupe ... I sent it an hour ago but it hasn't come through. My ARRL QSL card orders have gone through in a reasonable length of time, except for the last one several years ago. That shipment was not received the first time HQ placed an order for me and (I think) at least one other person. I talked to Dave Patton and he got it sorted out, re-sent the order to the printer, and the second try produced cards. Brian, I encourage you to contact Dave and see what's up. My cards were done by Elli Print and not UX5XO, so my experience may not be at all relevant if HQ has changed printers. 73 - Kay N3KN

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[arrl-odv:17742] Re: ARRL QSL card order timeliness
by Brian Mileshosky 12 May '09

12 May '09

It may, if one even has the cards to send off to DX to begin with! (wink) 73, Brian N5ZGT On Tue, 12 May 2009, G.P. Widin wrote: > Guys: > The real question is--does the DX confirm any better (% likelihood) or faster because it's a League card? > > -- > 73, > Greg, KØGW > Vice Director, Dakota Division > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard J. Norton" <richardjnorton(a)gmail.com> > To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:05:34 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: [arrl-odv:17738] Re: ARRL QSL card order timeliness > > QSL card order placed by E-mail last November 6. > > Cards received in California approximately December 20. > > 73, > > Dick, N6AA > > ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org

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RE: [arrl-odv:17739] Re: ARRL QSL card order timeliness
by Joel Harrison 12 May '09

12 May '09

NO! _____ From: G.P. Widin [mailto:gpwidin@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:58 AM To: arrl-odv Cc: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:17739] Re: ARRL QSL card order timeliness Guys: The real question is--does the DX confirm any better (% likelihood) or faster because it's a League card? -- 73, Greg, KØGW Vice Director, Dakota Division ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard J. Norton" <richardjnorton(a)gmail.com> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:05:34 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [arrl-odv:17738] Re: ARRL QSL card order timeliness QSL card order placed by E-mail last November 6. Cards received in California approximately December 20. 73, Dick, N6AA

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[arrl-odv:17740] Re:ARRL QSL order timeliness
by Kay Craigie 12 May '09

12 May '09

Sorry if this is a dupe ... I sent it an hour ago but it hasn't come through. My ARRL QSL card orders have gone through in a reasonable length of time, except for the last one several years ago. That shipment was not received the first time HQ placed an order for me and (I think) at least one other person. I talked to Dave Patton and he got it sorted out, re-sent the order to the printer, and the second try produced cards. Brian, I encourage you to contact Dave and see what's up. My cards were done by Elli Print and not UX5XO, so my experience may not be at all relevant if HQ has changed printers. 73 - Kay N3KN

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[arrl-odv:17739] Re: ARRL QSL card order timeliness
by G.P. Widin 12 May '09

12 May '09

Guys: The real question is--does the DX confirm any better (% likelihood) or faster because it's a League card? -- 73, Greg, KØGW Vice Director, Dakota Division ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard J. Norton" <richardjnorton(a)gmail.com> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:05:34 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [arrl-odv:17738] Re: ARRL QSL card order timeliness QSL card order placed by E-mail last November 6. Cards received in California approximately December 20. 73, Dick, N6AA

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RE: [arrl-odv:17737] ARRL QSL card order timeliness
by Kay Craigie 12 May '09

12 May '09

My ARRL QSL card orders have gone through in a reasonable length of time, except for the last one several years ago. That shipment was not received the first time HQ placed an order for me and (I think) at least one other person. I talked to Dave Patton and he got it sorted out, re-sent the order to the printer, and the second try produced cards. I encourage you to contact Dave and see what's up. My cards were done by Elli Print and not UX5XO, so my experience may not be relevant if HQ has changed printers. 73 - Kay N3KN

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[arrl-odv:17738] Re: ARRL QSL card order timeliness
by Richard J. Norton 12 May '09

12 May '09

QSL card order placed by E-mail last November 6. Cards received in California approximately December 20. 73, Dick, N6AA On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Brian Mileshosky <n5zgt(a)swcp.com> wrote: > All – > > > > Has anyone experienced a really long delay in receiving their ARRL QSL card > order? I placed my order with Dave Patton – who I’m not blaming in any way, > shape, or form in this email – on February 1. I received my proof via email > on about April 1. Today is May 11 and I’m still waiting to receive cards in > the mail. > > > > I’ve not contacted Gennady UX5XO (print shop) directly since I don’t want to > step on Dave Patton’s toes. Patton mentioned that Gennady UX5XO needs a > certain number of QSL cards ordered before he can do a print run. That > doesn’t quite make sense to me since UX5XO probably fulfills many custom > orders on a regular basis. At any rate, I ordered 1,000. > > > > UX5XO’s website says “Cards will be printed within 3-4 weeks upon receiving > order and payment. Post delivery takes 1-2 weeks.” Close to 14 weeks after > placing my initial order, I’m still waiting. > > > > Has anyone else had a similar experience with their ARRL QSL cards via UX5XO > and, if so, should we consider doing business with another print shop that’s > more responsive, regardless of whom the paying customer is? > > > > 73, > > Brian N5ZGT

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[arrl-odv:17737] ARRL QSL card order timeliness
by Brian Mileshosky 12 May '09

12 May '09

All - Has anyone experienced a really long delay in receiving their ARRL QSL card order? I placed my order with Dave Patton - who I'm not blaming in any way, shape, or form in this email - on February 1. I received my proof via email on about April 1. Today is May 11 and I'm still waiting to receive cards in the mail. I've not contacted Gennady UX5XO (print shop) directly since I don't want to step on Dave Patton's toes. Patton mentioned that Gennady UX5XO needs a certain number of QSL cards ordered before he can do a print run. That doesn't quite make sense to me since UX5XO probably fulfills many custom orders on a regular basis. At any rate, I ordered 1,000. UX5XO's website says "Cards will be printed within 3-4 weeks upon receiving order and payment. Post delivery takes 1-2 weeks." Close to 14 weeks after placing my initial order, I'm still waiting. Has anyone else had a similar experience with their ARRL QSL cards via UX5XO and, if so, should we consider doing business with another print shop that's more responsive, regardless of whom the paying customer is? 73, Brian N5ZGT ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division www.RockyMountainDivision.org

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