July 2008 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

RE: [arrl-odv:16963] SF Zoo Visit
by K8JE 13 Jul '08

13 Jul '08

Rod, I bet he can't even drive! Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director ARRL Great Lakes Division 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040 E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org; Tel.: 513-459-0142 ARRL - The Reason Amateur Radio Is! Members - The Reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: w6rod(a)comcast.net [mailto:w6rod@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 12:51 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:16963] SF Zoo Visit My wife, my granddaughter and I went to the SF Zoo today (Saturday). I was surprised to see how much the animals adapt to their surroundings. It was a warm day and many of the animals didn't seem to be in a very good mood. Some fellow off to my left yelled to one of the mandrills to look his way so he could get a photo. Here's the response the fellow received! Rod -- Amateur Radio W6ROD www.flickr.com/photos/rodstaffordphotography

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[arrl-odv:16963] SF Zoo Visit
by w6rod＠comcast.net 13 Jul '08

13 Jul '08

My wife, my granddaughter and I went to the SF Zoo today (Saturday). I was surprised to see how much the animals adapt to their surroundings. It was a warm day and many of the animals didn't seem to be in a very good mood. Some fellow off to my left yelled to one of the mandrills to look his way so he could get a photo. Here's the response the fellow received! Rod -- Amateur Radio W6ROD www.flickr.com/photos/rodstaffordphotography

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[arrl-odv:16962] Report of the First VP
by Kay Craigie 12 Jul '08

12 Jul '08

The attached file is my report to the Board. I will be happy to respond to any questions, either by e-mail or when we see each other soon. Travel safely! 73 - Kay N3KN

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[arrl-odv:16961] Re: ARRL.NET e-mail phishing scam
by Andy Oppel 12 Jul '08

12 Jul '08

This is a typical e-mail sent to a list of recipients in an attempt to get their login credentials. In this case it has gone to at lease one ARRL.NET account (probably found in the address book of a compromised e-mail account -- not an ARRL.NET account because they don't have address books). While it may that the reply is to a GMail account, the FROM in the header is forged. If you were to reply to the e-mail, it would go to the "Return Path" in the header, which is: Return-Path: <<mailto:eu6925177@tele2.fr>eu6925177(a)tele2.fr>. This is an account in France that is going to be difficult to do much about. It is also the account that originated the message as shown here: Received: from [<http://78.138.0.102>78.138.0.102] (account <mailto:eu6925177@tele2.fr>eu6925177(a)tele2.fr) However we can send it to the http://tele2.fr/ abuse desk. The problem is that the web site is all in french and I'm totally illiterate in that language. The entire e-mail attached below needs to be sent to their abuse address. Fortunately, our ARRL accounts (member pages) don't have social security numbers, bank account numbers or credit card numbers visible. And as I recall, we don't have address books either (which could be used to target more messages). So the worst that can happen if someone responds is that their e-mail account gets taken over and used to send more SPAM and phishing e-mails. That's still not good, but far from what would happen if we were a bank or something. At 07:49 AM 7/12/2008, William Sawders wrote: >Here's the entire information I received from that member. As you >can see, he did try to contact HQ. > >Bill, K7ZM > >-------Original Message------- > >From: <mailto:k7ra@arrl.net>Tad Cook >Date: 7/12/2008 3:30:38 AM >To: <mailto:W1AW@arrl.org>W1AW; <mailto:skkeane@arrl.org>Keane, S >Khrystyne, K1SFA; <mailto:qst@arrl.org>QST >Cc: ><mailto:k9jf@arrl.org>k9jf(a)arrl.org; ><mailto:k7zm@arrl.org>k7zm(a)arrl.org; <mailto:k7cex@arrl.org>k7cex(a)arrl.org >Subject: scam -- Fwd: Attention Account Holder. Urgent reply Needed !!! > >Nice of them to do this on a Friday night, when HQ staff cannot >respond to questions about their scam. > >I've included the original header info below. > >The FROM address is forged, and the Reply To address is a gmail account. > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Arrl.net <<mailto:accsupport@arrl.net>accsupport(a)arrl.net> >Date: Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 6:16 PM >Subject: Attention Account Holder. Urgent reply Needed !!! >To: > > > > >-- > >Attention E-Mail Account Holder, > >We are currently performing maintenance for our Digital mail Account >owners due to the rate of internet passwords and other informations >problems. And we discovered that our mail account owners have been >receiving phishing mails form imposters asking for their personal >information.So we intend upgrading our Digital mail Security Server >for better online services. > >In order to ensure you do not experience service interruption, >Please you must reply to this email immediately and enter your User >Id here:(****) Email: (*****) and password(S) here: (****) (****), >Contact Phone Number(****) for security reasons and Check out your >new features and enhancements with your new and improved mail >account. To enable us upgrade your Account for better online >services please reply to this mail. > >NB: We request your username(s) and password(s) for Identification >purpose only. > >Signed, >Account Support Unit > > >Delivered-To: <mailto:k7ra.tad@gmail.com>k7ra.tad(a)gmail.com >Received: by <http://10.86.99.13>10.86.99.13 with SMTP id w13cs133747fgb; > Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:16:54 -0700 (PDT) >Received: by <http://10.150.50.1>10.150.50.1 with SMTP id >x1mr2053623ybx.39.1215825413262; > Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:16:53 -0700 (PDT) >Return-Path: <<mailto:eu6925177@tele2.fr>eu6925177(a)tele2.fr> >Received: from ><http://callisto.interbridge.net>callisto.interbridge.net >(<http://callisto.interbridge.net>callisto.interbridge.net >[<http://69.183.18.219>69.183.18.219]) > by <http://mx.google.com>mx.google.com with ESMTP id > 5si1916898yxt.1.2008.07.11.18.16.52; > Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:16:53 -0700 (PDT) >Received-SPF: neutral (<http://google.com>google.com: ><http://69.183.18.219>69.183.18.219 is neither permitted nor denied >by best guess record for domain of ><mailto:eu6925177@tele2.fr>eu6925177(a)tele2.fr) >client-ip=<http://69.183.18.219>69.183.18.219; >Authentication-Results: <http://mx.google.com>mx.google.com; >spf=neutral (<http://google.com>google.com: ><http://69.183.18.219>69.183.18.219 is neither permitted nor denied >by best guess record for domain of ><mailto:eu6925177@tele2.fr>eu6925177(a)tele2.fr) >smtp.mail=<mailto:eu6925177@tele2.fr>eu6925177(a)tele2.fr >Received: from <http://mailfe05.tele2.fr>mailfe05.tele2.fr >([<http://212.247.154.140>212.247.154.140] helo=<http://swip.net>swip.net) >by <http://callisto.interbridge.net>callisto.interbridge.net with >esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) >(envelope-from <<mailto:eu6925177@tele2.fr>eu6925177(a)tele2.fr>) >id 1KHThv-0000j6-Kb; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:15:34 -0400 >X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] >X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Sgpw209IStsA:10 a=rPLJe5jNQxgA:10 >a=M_Eevm-OZB8A:10 a=d3ZwFMNkyaEA:10 a=2grNCX5gDj12TJkaPhuwuA==:17 >a=ojV2UQOLBKt0vX6_KjIA:9 a=vPZ1wuk5RCbAfeOPF6kA:7 >a=S9Y07KAksF8Nz3ye2NXC_xJihd0A:4 a=qJMeZhlYfXQA:10 >Received: from [<http://78.138.0.102>78.138.0.102] (account ><mailto:eu6925177@tele2.fr>eu6925177(a)tele2.fr) > by <http://mailbe06.swip.net>mailbe06.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro > WEBUSER 5.2.4b) > with HTTP id 20147174; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:16:28 +0200 >From: "Arrl.net" <<mailto:accsupport@arrl.net>accsupport(a)arrl.net> >Subject: Attention Account Holder. Urgent reply Needed !!! >X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.2.4b >Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:16:28 +0200 >Message-ID: ><<mailto:web-20147174@mailbe06.swip.net>web-20147174(a)mailbe06.swip.net> >Reply-To: <mailto:acctfix@gmail.com>acctfix(a)gmail.com >X-Priority: 3 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Z-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) >Z-Spam-Report: No, hits=2.5 required=5.5 >test=BAYES_05,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,MIME_HTML_ONLY,PLING_PLING,TO_CC_NONE,URG_BIZ >autolearn=no version=3.1.8 >* 0.1 FORGED_RCVD_HELO Received: contains a forged HELO >* 0.4 URG_BIZ BODY: Contains urgent matter >* 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message >* 1.4 HTML_10_20 BODY: Message is 10% to 20% HTML >* 0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts >* -1.1 BAYES_05 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 1 to 5% >* [score: 0.0258] >* 0.2 DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE RBL: Envelope sender in ><http://abuse.rfc-ignorant.org>abuse.rfc-ignorant.org >* 1.1 HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG HTML-only message, but there is no HTML tag >* 0.1 TO_CC_NONE No To: or Cc: header >* 0.3 PLING_PLING Subject has lots of exclamation marks > ><div id="_htmlarea_default_style_" style="font:10pt >arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> -- >  >Attention E-Mail Account Holder, >We are currently performing maintenance for our Digital mail >Account owners due to the rate of internet passwords and other >informations problems. And we discovered that our mail account >owners have been receiving phishing mails form imposters asking for >their personal information.So we intend upgrading our Digital mail >Security Server for better online >services. >In order to ensure you do not experience service interruption, >Please you must reply to this email immediately and enter your User >Id here:(****) Email: (*****) and password(S) here: (****) (****), >Contact Phone Number(****) for security reasons and Check out your >new features and enhancements with your new and improved mail >account. To enable us upgrade your Account for better online >services please reply to this >mail. >NB: We request your username(s) and password(s) for >Identification purpose only. >Signed, Account Support Unit </div> > > > > >-- >Tad Cook - K7RA >Seattle, WA ><mailto:k7ra@arrl.net>k7ra(a)arrl.net > Andy Oppel andy(a)andyoppel.com andy_oppel(a)alamedanet.net

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[arrl-odv:16959] TTF Report - Document 21
by Karl Bullock 12 Jul '08

12 Jul '08

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[arrl-odv:16958] Fw: scam -- Fwd: Attention Account Holder. Urgent reply Needed !!!
by William Sawders 12 Jul '08

12 Jul '08

Here's the entire information I received from that member. As you can see, he did try to contact HQ. Bill, K7ZM -------Original Message------- From: Tad Cook Date: 7/12/2008 3:30:38 AM To: W1AW; Keane, S Khrystyne, K1SFA; QST Cc: k9jf(a)arrl.org; k7zm(a)arrl.org; k7cex(a)arrl.org Subject: scam -- Fwd: Attention Account Holder. Urgent reply Needed !!! Nice of them to do this on a Friday night, when HQ staff cannot respond to questions about their scam. I've included the original header info below. The FROM address is forged, and the Reply To address is a gmail account. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Arrl.net <accsupport(a)arrl.net> Date: Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 6:16 PM Subject: Attention Account Holder. Urgent reply Needed !!! To: -- Attention E-Mail Account Holder, We are currently performing maintenance for our Digital mail Account owners due to the rate of internet passwords and other informations problems. And we discovered that our mail account owners have been receiving phishing mails form imposters asking for their personal information.So we intend upgrading our Digital mail Security Server for better online services. In order to ensure you do not experience service interruption, Please you must reply to this email immediately and enter your User Id here:(****) Email: (*****) and password(S) here: (****) (****), Contact Phone Number(****) for security reasons and Check out your new features and enhancements with your new and improved mail account. To enable us upgrade your Account for better online services please reply to this mail. NB: We request your username(s) and password(s) for Identification purpose only. Signed, Account Support Unit Delivered-To: k7ra.tad(a)gmail.com Received: by 10.86.99.13 with SMTP id w13cs133747fgb; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.50.1 with SMTP id x1mr2053623ybx.39.1215825413262; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <eu6925177(a)tele2.fr> Received: from callisto.interbridge.net (callisto.interbridge.net [69.183.18 219]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 5si1916898yxt.1.2008.07.11.18.16.52; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.183.18.219 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of eu6925177(a)tele2.fr) client-ip=69 183.18.219; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.183.18 219 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of eu6925177(a)tele2.fr) smtp.mail=eu6925177(a)tele2.fr Received: from mailfe05.tele2.fr ([212.247.154.140] helo=swip.net) by callisto.interbridge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from <eu6925177(a)tele2.fr>) id 1KHThv-0000j6-Kb; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:15:34 -0400 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Sgpw209IStsA:10 a=rPLJe5jNQxgA:10 a=M_Eevm-OZB8A:10 a=d3ZwFMNkyaEA:10 a=2grNCX5gDj12TJkaPhuwuA==:17 a=ojV2UQOLBKt0vX6_KjIA:9 a=vPZ1wuk5RCbAfeOPF6kA:7 a=S9Y07KAksF8Nz3ye2NXC_xJihd0A:4 a=qJMeZhlYfXQA:10 Received: from [78.138.0.102] (account eu6925177(a)tele2.fr) by mailbe06.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.2.4b) with HTTP id 20147174; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:16:28 +0200 From: "Arrl.net" <accsupport(a)arrl.net> Subject: Attention Account Holder. Urgent reply Needed !!! X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.2.4b Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:16:28 +0200 Message-ID: <web-20147174(a)mailbe06.swip.net> Reply-To: acctfix(a)gmail.com X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Z-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) Z-Spam-Report: No, hits=2.5 required=5.5 test=BAYES_05,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE FORGED_RCVD_HELO,HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG MIME_HTML_ONLY,PLING_PLING,TO_CC_NONE,URG_BIZ autolearn=no version=3.1.8 * 0.1 FORGED_RCVD_HELO Received: contains a forged HELO * 0.4 URG_BIZ BODY: Contains urgent matter * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * 1.4 HTML_10_20 BODY: Message is 10% to 20% HTML * 0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts * -1.1 BAYES_05 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 1 to 5% * [score: 0.0258] * 0.2 DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE RBL: Envelope sender in abuse.rfc-ignorant.org * 1.1 HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG HTML-only message, but there is no HTML tag * 0.1 TO_CC_NONE No To: or Cc: header * 0.3 PLING_PLING Subject has lots of exclamation marks <div id="_htmlarea_default_style_" style="font:10pt arial,helvetica sans-serif"> --  Attention E-Mail Account Holder, We are currently performing maintenance for our Digital mail Account owners due to the rate of internet passwords and other informations problems And we discovered that our mail account owners have been receiving phishing mails form imposters asking for their personal information.So we intend upgrading our Digital mail Security Server for better online services. In order to ensure you do not experience service interruption, Please you must reply to this email immediately and enter your User Id here:(****) Email: (*****) and password(S) here: (****) (****), Contact Phone Number(****) for security reasons and Check out your new features and enhancements with your new and improved mail account. To enable us upgrade your Account for better online services please reply to this mail. NB: We request your username(s) and password(s) for Identification purpose only. Signed, Account Support Unit </div> -- Tad Cook - K7RA Seattle, WA k7ra(a)arrl.net

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[arrl-odv:16957] PSC report Doc. 17
by Bruce Frahm 12 Jul '08

12 Jul '08

As noted in the board report our SM Governance final report (Doc. 17a) will be distributed in preliminary form by Monday. Ultimate recommendations on some items will come from our Thursday meeting and a revised Doc. 17a will be available Friday, or at worst within a couple weeks. Bruce K0BJ

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[arrl-odv:16956] Attention Account Holder. Urgent reply Needed !!!
by William Sawders 12 Jul '08

12 Jul '08

Here is a "phishing" email that was just received by an ARRL member in the N W. Division. They are being sent to members asking for their personal ARRL e-mail (@arrl.net) information. Bill Sawders, K7ZM ARRL Vice Director Northwestern Division The FROM address (ARRL.net) is forged, and the Reply To address is a gmail account. From: Arrl.net <accsupport(a)arrl.net> Date: Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 6:16 PM Subject: Attention Account Holder. Urgent reply Needed !!! To: (call sign) Attention E-Mail Account Holder, We are currently performing maintenance for our Digital mail Account owners due to the rate of internet passwords and other informations problems. And we discovered that our mail account owners have been receiving phishing mails form imposters asking for their personal information.So we intend upgrading our Digital mail Security Server for better online services. In order to ensure you do not experience service interruption, Please you must reply to this email immediately and enter your User Id here:(****) Email: (*****) and password(S) here: (****) (****), Contact Phone Number(****) for security reasons and Check out your new features and enhancements with your new and improved mail account. To enable us upgrade your Account for better online services please reply to this mail. NB: We request your username(s) and password(s) for Identification purpose only. Signed, Account Support Unit

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[arrl-odv:16955] CFO Report
by Shelley, Barry, N1VXY 11 Jul '08

11 Jul '08

Attached is the report of the Chief Financial Officer (Document #10) for the upcoming meeting. The summary financial report is included and should be read in conjunction with the report. 73, Barry J. Shelley, N1VXY Chief Financial Officer ARRL, Inc-The National Association for Amateur Radio 225 Main St. Newington, CT 06111 www.arrl.org <http://www.arrl.org> Phone: (860) 594-0212 E-mail: bshelley(a)arrl.org <mailto:bshelley@arrl.org>

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[arrl-odv:16943] Re: Proposed Silent Key Database Partnership
by w3kd＠aol.com 11 Jul '08

11 Jul '08

Greetings. While I have no place commenting on the merits of Dick's proposal and don't intend to do so,?I was asked back in June to provide some input to Harold Kramer on the same subject that Dick intends to propose to the Board below. I think it not unreasonable, while evaluating the merits of Dick's plan, to consider some of the points of possible exposure to liability. Harold, I recall, had some separate concerns as well?about data sharing generally that?might bear on?this issue. If I recall correctly, the PSC?addressed the?matter of sharing SK lists with?unaffiliated third parties?previously. Anyway, here are the points I made to Harold at the time of his inquiry: 1. I have been?somewhat concerned for years about our own handling of the SK listings. While?HQ does far?more verification of the entries than I thought was done, it is still fraught with the possibility of fraud and possible abuse. There are numerous factual contexts that can arise where a person who is very much alive is reported to be dead. Some are practical jokes that are not funny, and some are more sinister. Our publishing this information ourselves carries with it some risk, and if there was a fraudulent scheme involving a radio amateur, our publishing unverified information could be easily found to be negligent by us, and ARRL would have some potential exposure to a victim of the fraud. 2. Families of decedents are, in my view, entitled to a modicum of control over the dissemination of information about a death in the family. A well-intentioned ham forwarding an obit about a fellow ham's death is, as has been said, forwarding public information, but our providing notices nationally in a journal about Amateur Radio is qualitatively different from publishing a notice in a local newspaper. The inclusion of the obit info in QST potentially subjects the family of the decedent to badgering contacts from hams who want to purchase the decedent's equipment cheaply (either for themselves or to re-sell at a profit) or badgering contacts from hams who want the family's consent to use the decedent's call sign. These are just two examples. 3. Getting to your question, I can't see what the benefit is?to ARRL, or ARRL's members, in forwarding our data to an unaffiliated third party. ARRL's mission statement includes something about being the preeminent provider of information about Amateur Radio to the ham community. Why we would delegate that core function is a mystery to me.? 4. More particularly, we?can't assert that the information that we provide to this third party is going?to be accurate, and we have no idea what the universe of?uses?of that information will be in the hands of the third party. Will the third party sell the data to?used equipment dealers??Vanity?call sign seekers? Suppose?a ham is a?victim of a fraud??ARRL?could easily be held negligent?for participating in the fraud by disseminating to the third party the?fraudulent?data that we ourselves can't say is verified or in some cases verifiable. 5. If ARRL publishes the same information, what is the benefit to ARRL members in some other database of the same information? Even simply compiling a database for the information of ARRL members only (which is the distribution of the SK list in QST) leaves open the question of how that database?might be used by?third parties?and what?further dissemination might occur. ? The bottom line is that this is basically unverified data, and while our publishing it is minimally risky, providing it to third parties is more risky and, as a separate matter,?perpetuates what is more of an ethical issue than a legal one, which is the degree of privacy that might be expected by a family of a deceased ham. There appears no reason why ARRL should provide data that we compile ourselves (and provide to our members ourselves) to an unaffiliated third party to further disseminate in an uncontrolled manner. We wouldn't do that with our membership lists, or other membership services, and I see no reason to do it with SK lists, because of the potential for abuse and liability to ARRL. Some of the foregoing we could admittedly deal with by contract with N4MC. However, no disclaimers can waive negligence, and providing data of this nature to an unaffiiliated third party appears to me to involve risks that are difficult to justify by the benefit gained. However, you may feel differently..... 73, Chris?W3KD? Christopher D. Imlay BOOTH, FRERET, IMLAY & TEPPER, P.C. 14356 Cape May Road Silver Spring, Maryland 20904-6011 (301) 384-5525 telephone (301) 384-6384 facsimile W3KD(a)ARRL.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Richard J. Norton <richardjnorton(a)gmail.com> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:35 pm Subject: [arrl-odv:16940] Proposed Silent Key Database Partnership An opportunity presently exists for the ARRL to provide an additional service to Radio Amateurs, start a working relationship with an existing group of long-term volunteers, and get the ARRL attached to a well-run web-site with an interesting callbook-like history component. The opportunity requires minimal effort to get started. The League has published Silent Key information in QST starting from about 1927. The proposed concept is to have the SK data appear on a web-site, and be searchable by name and callsign. We have an offer from the acclaimed www.vanityhq.com website, run since 1999 by Michael Carroll, N4MC, to include ARRL's SK data with appropriate ARRL branding on each entry. To see an example navigate to www.vanityhq.com/index-unique-dev.html and click on the silent key link in the main window's seemingly blank screen. The lookup will default to N4MC. Once you arrive at the developmental lookup page, you can enter any call sign in the upper right-hand area of the page. Do not use the upper left-hand call entry area. Here are some call signs in the silent key database: N6HUH W0LHS W8BX WB3BHX WD0A K4CQD K6UA K4IP K7KOT The Vanityhq site presently contains a history of each callsign, going as far back as 1981, when electronic data became available. You can see who held the callsign, and the location. In addition, hams are encouraged to submit their callsign history from earlier years, which gets added after moderator approval. Silent Key information is a natural for understanding callsign changeovers, and adding to this documented history. When I first inquired of Carroll about the possibility, he was honored that the ARRL would consider becoming involved with him. His work is something that I feel would be appropriate to eventually transition to the League when and if N4MC ceases doing it. There is no better way to promote that possible transition for the future than by establishing a good relationship today. Involvement with the existing VanityHQ site allows the SK data to be automatic ally connected to old callsigns as well as the single callsign listed in QST, providing more information than can the League. What is presently desired is for Amy Hurtado, the ARRL staffer in charge of the SK data, to output all the SK data that is on her computer from previous QSTs, and send it electronically to N4MC. Then, monthly update N4MC with the data for the present magazine. Some of us will then work with N4MC to get the data from earlier QSTs either scanned or typed. Sending the existing electronic data simply saves scanning 8 or 10 years of QSTs. ________________________ Michael Carroll expressed his thoughts on the proposed project as follows: "This is what I would do: 1. Someone at ARRL write an agreement that basically states the ARRL is allowing me to display SK data at my website, and use certain ARRL copyrighted logos. No ownership rights are transferred, neither for the SK data, nor for my website code. 2. Give me the name and email address of the real person at ARRL who makes the SK database. I can communicate with that person directly, and specify what data I need in my copy of the SK database Excel file. This person will also send me monthly updates. 3. Once I get the data, I will prepare it and post it on my website. 4. Once this accomplished, I will enhance the search tools for querying the SK database. After this, we can figure out what, if anything, is next. I am sitting on 'go' and ready to move on this thing. You can ask anyone who knows me through my website. I run a clean, professional, and strictly above-board operation. I have been a ham for 31 years, and I have built a solid reputation in the national ham community. I also have 25 years of professional software design and engineering. Just give me SK data. I know what to do with it." ___________________________ My research confirms Carroll's description of himself. Allying with VanityHQ assures the job will be done well, at essentially no cost to the League, and the League will receive full credit. By the way, there is no need for Carroll to get our permission to use facts about deaths from QST. I do not know if Carroll is aware of that or not, but Legal heads should become familiar with the Supreme Court ruling in Feist vs. Rural, and the implications. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_Publications_v._Rural_Telephone_Service I've discussed the electronic SK concept with a good number of ARRL members and have received nothing but support. I expect to introduce a motion at the July Board meeting to take advantage of Michael Carroll's generous offer. 73, Dick Norton, N6AA

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