April 2007 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

RE: [arrl-odv:15338] Re: Trip Report - MFJ Enterprises/Ameritron/Hygain/Vectronics/Mirage, Starkville, MS
by Joel Harrison 03 Apr '07

03 Apr '07

Thanks Karl. Yes, I am aware of the "Day in the Park" event. Unfortunately that day Dave, Kay and I will be heading to Brazil for the IARU Region II Conference and will miss it. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: Karl Bullock [mailto:karl@bullock.org] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 1:08 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:15338] Re: Trip Report - MFJ Enterprises/Ameritron/Hygain/Vectronics/Mirage, Starkville, MS Thanks, Joel, for coming down into my back yard, and bringing Dave. I'm sure he is now aware that down here we all wear shoes and are not married to our sister (at least in my family <g>). On September 7-8th, MFJ celebrates 35 years in business, and will be hosting the ARRL Day In The Park just down the street from MFJ Headquarters that weekend, with tours of their facilities and a lunch in the Park on Saturday. We'd love to have any of you join us in celebrating the contributions Martin has made to Ham Radio over the years. On a personal note, I was a student at Mississippi State in the early 70s and remember Martin's fledgling company operating out of a house trailer in a trailer park where a friend of mine was also living. Additionally, Martin was still a professor at MSU at the time, and was my faculty advisor! Naturally we became friends, and have stayed in touch ever since, and now my daughter is a student at MSU, and lives about a mile from MFJ. He's a great guy, and we are certainly thankful for the fine facilities at North Mississippi Medical Center where he underwent his bypass procedures. As a result, we hope Martin will be around for a long time. 73, Karl, WA5TMC -------------------------------------- "Of, By, and For..." - Not just words! Karl Bullock, WA5TMC ARRL Vice Director - Delta Division 321 CR 458 Ripley, MS 38663 662 512-8053

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[arrl-odv:15358] Re: What are you hearing
by Tom Frenaye 03 Apr '07

03 Apr '07

At 03:04 PM 4/1/2007, W5ZN wrote: >I�m curious what you are hearing now about our bandwidth subset proposal to the FCC at in-person events. No questions on regulation by bandwidth at two lightly-attended ARRL forums at the Maine State Convention on Friday night and Saturday. Attendance seemed up from last year and they had 30 people in the VE session when I left. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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RE: What are you hearing
by Joel Harrison 03 Apr '07

03 Apr '07

Thanks Bruce. Yea, I know some have really played up what they called a "secret meeting" to which I keep responding "How is a PUBLIC ex-parte meeting secret?" I'm yet to receive a response. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: bounce-120532-3438(a)reflector.arrl.org [mailto:bounce-120532-3438@reflector.arrl.org] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Joel, no in-person events here. The email has died down. At least three were more upset about the "secret Ex Parte" meeting than the actual issues. I'm in an extended thread with one high-profile member who isn't very familiar with the digital modes and wonders why fully automatic op. and encrypted messages are deemed a good thing. While tutoring him has helped me clarify some points to myself and solidify my feelings, I'm not sure if I'll get him persuaded to be a proponent of Winlink/OFDM or fully automatic freq. windows. 73 Bruce K0BJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Joel Harrison To: arrl-odv Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: What are you hearing I'm curious what you are hearing now about our bandwidth subset proposal to the FCC at in-person events.

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[arrl-odv:15354] Re: What are you hearing
by Frank Fallon 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

Joel, Your perception is correct. This is for the most part a non-issue. I have been to two local hamfests since the story broke and had no questions save for a comment from Pete "the manual man" who is well aware of the bandwidth issue. He was not angry or concerned as I have been speaking to him about the issues involved here for a few years. He was concerned a while back that AM, his favorite mode, would be impacted. Once he saw that it would not he was fine with the issue. The only e-mails that I have seen have been the bulk mailing from the friends of Skip who are not in my division. I did not receive any mail for any Hudson members. One exception. I did have an e-mail from a ham friend I speak to daily who saw Skip's posting on the RTTY reflector and wanted to know what this was all about. I answered him and he was fine with it and I think forwarded my reply to a few of his friends. It is not an issue here and I have not seen anyone with matches either. 73 de Frank...N2FF...... Joel Harrison wrote: > > I’m curious what you are hearing now about our bandwidth subset > proposal to the FCC at in-person events. > > My email has now been reduced to only those that are not ARRL members > that are still complaining about things in general (incentive > licensing, elimination of Morse for licensing, etc) not the specifics > of the proposal. > > This weekend, I attended the AES Superfest in Milwaukee with Dick > Isely. You will receive my trip report soon, but I want to tell you > there were about 1000 attending and not one, not one single person > even mentioned the proposal. All I received were positive all around > comments about what we’re doing. I even brought up the topic of > regulation by bandwidth at the ARRL forum, where we had around 120 > attending, and not one person had any comment or complaints about it. > > I know Bill Edgar was at Timonium this weekend. I talked to Bill last > night and he had no complaints, only a couple of questions about the > proposal. Bill Cross was there and conducted a forum and Bill reports > that the subject was not raised there. > > One thing is obvious; the comments of substance have actually been > supportive of the original proposal. Where were these guys before! > Dave, Chris and I will be evaluating where we are with this matter and > will report shortly. > > So, I’m curious as to what you are hearing at your eyeball events. > > 73 Joel W5ZN >

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What are you hearing
by Bruce Frahm K0BJ 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

Joel, no in-person events here. The email has died down. At least three were more upset about the "secret Ex Parte" meeting than the actual issues. I'm in an extended thread with one high-profile member who isn't very familiar with the digital modes and wonders why fully automatic op. and encrypted messages are deemed a good thing. While tutoring him has helped me clarify some points to myself and solidify my feelings, I'm not sure if I'll get him persuaded to be a proponent of Winlink/OFDM or fully automatic freq. windows. 73 Bruce K0BJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Joel Harrison To: arrl-odv Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: What are you hearing I'm curious what you are hearing now about our bandwidth subset proposal to the FCC at in-person events.

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[arrl-odv:15352] Re: What are you hearing
by warren morton 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

Joel: The eye of the storm has passed and very little, if any, damage has been recorded and/or noticed. There were a few Hams in New Mexico that had their boxers in a ball but they have settled down. Your trips to MFJ and AES sounded successful and fun. Thanks es 73, Rev WS7W On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 14:04:21 -0500 "Joel Harrison" <w5zn(a)arrl.org> wrote: > I'm curious what you are hearing now about our bandwidth subset proposal to > the FCC at in-person events. > > > > My email has now been reduced to only those that are not ARRL members that > are still complaining about things in general (incentive licensing, > elimination of Morse for licensing, etc) not the specifics of the proposal. > > > > This weekend, I attended the AES Superfest in Milwaukee with Dick Isely. You > will receive my trip report soon, but I want to tell you there were about > 1000 attending and not one, not one single person even mentioned the > proposal. All I received were positive all around comments about what we're > doing. I even brought up the topic of regulation by bandwidth at the ARRL > forum, where we had around 120 attending, and not one person had any comment > or complaints about it. > > > > I know Bill Edgar was at Timonium this weekend. I talked to Bill last night > and he had no complaints, only a couple of questions about the proposal. > Bill Cross was there and conducted a forum and Bill reports that the subject > was not raised there. > > > > One thing is obvious; the comments of substance have actually been > supportive of the original proposal. Where were these guys before! Dave, > Chris and I will be evaluating where we are with this matter and will report > shortly. > > > > So, I'm curious as to what you are hearing at your eyeball events. > > > > 73 Joel W5ZN > > >

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QCWA Journal
by Bruce Frahm K0BJ 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

Yes Frank, I've been reading them but am only halfway through the current Random Recollections. It was great fun meeting George at the picnic a few years ago (my 2nd time to meet him, I believe). He and my NTS Elmer CW Wade W0INH / W0AM were good friends. CW ran against K0NL, I think, for director back about 1970. A couple years ago I borrowed George's WW2 "presumed autobiography" from W1UED and The Cage. Perry asked me to do a sort of "Cliff's Notes" on that book which I did. I can send you an e-copy attachment of the review if you're interested. It's a lengthy book but "good of kind", as Reader's Digest used to describe movies. 73 Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: frank butler To: arrl-odv Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:34 PM Subject: [arrl-odv:15349] QCWA Journal Has anyone been following the articles in the QCWA Journal by George Hart, W1NJM? The latest, in the April issue, is one I could relate to. It covers his experiences over his last 12 years working at HQ, ending in 1978. I was an SCM during all that time, working for George. (The Commnications Dept Manager was more than just a facilitator in those days; he ran the Field Organization!) 73, Frank, W4RH

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[arrl-odv:15350] Re: What are you hearing
by Kramer, Harold, WJ1B 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

I was at the Communications Academy in Seattle all weekend along with Jim Fenstermaker and SMs Ed Bruette, WWA and Doug Rich, ID. The event was sold out at 400 +, double from the previous year. The trip report will follow. I also did not get a single complaint or question about the bandwidth proposal. Comments were very positive about the ARRL. It was encouraging to see lots of new licensees, mostly Techs, who were interersted and engaged in Amateur Radio and Emergency Communications. I'll be back in the office tomorrow as long as Southwest Airlines does its part. 73, Harold Harold Kramer, WJ1B Chief Operating Officer ARRL - ARRL - The National Association for Amateur Radio 225 Main Street Newington , CT 06111 860 594 0220 www.arrl.org <http://www.arrl.org/> ________________________________ From: Joel Harrison [mailto:w5zn@arrl.org] Sent: Sun 4/1/2007 3:04 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: What are you hearing I'm curious what you are hearing now about our bandwidth subset proposal to the FCC at in-person events. My email has now been reduced to only those that are not ARRL members that are still complaining about things in general (incentive licensing, elimination of Morse for licensing, etc) not the specifics of the proposal. This weekend, I attended the AES Superfest in Milwaukee with Dick Isely. You will receive my trip report soon, but I want to tell you there were about 1000 attending and not one, not one single person even mentioned the proposal. All I received were positive all around comments about what we're doing. I even brought up the topic of regulation by bandwidth at the ARRL forum, where we had around 120 attending, and not one person had any comment or complaints about it. I know Bill Edgar was at Timonium this weekend. I talked to Bill last night and he had no complaints, only a couple of questions about the proposal. Bill Cross was there and conducted a forum and Bill reports that the subject was not raised there. One thing is obvious; the comments of substance have actually been supportive of the original proposal. Where were these guys before! Dave, Chris and I will be evaluating where we are with this matter and will report shortly. So, I'm curious as to what you are hearing at your eyeball events. 73 Joel W5ZN

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[arrl-odv:15349] QCWA Journal
by frank butler 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

Has anyone been following the articles in the QCWA Journal by George Hart, W1NJM? The latest, in the April issue, is one I could relate to. It covers his experiences over his last 12 years working at HQ, ending in 1978. I was an SCM during all that time, working for George. (The Commnications Dept Manager was more than just a facilitator in those days; he ran the Field Organization!) 73, Frank, W4RH

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RE: What are you hearing
by Bill Edgar 01 Apr '07

01 Apr '07

Bill Cross was indeed there on Saturday. He had a forum and at the beginning of the forum, he mentioned that he was not officially there as an FCC staffer. About 20 people were in attendance for Cross's forum and the most contentious question asked of Mr. Cross was, if announcing on a repeater that highway traffic was very heavy to no one in particular. The individual asking the question is an amateur trying his darndest to become a "head cheese ball" in his state's RACES. This hamfest ran for two days and to steal a phrase from Tom W3TOM, "You could feel the love!" Membership sales were brisk - the MDC Section staff even sold a life membership this morning! This year's attendance at Timonium looked to be much larger than last year or even the previous year. Hugh W3ABC stopped in this morning to visit and it was good to see him. - Bill N3LLR From: Kay Craigie [mailto:n3kn@verizon.net] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 6:57 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: RE: What are you hearing I am surprised to hear that Bill Cross did a forum at Timonium and wonder if the gag order at FCC has been lifted? (Feel free to follow with jokes about using the words "Bill Cross" and "gag" in the same sentence.) 73 - Kay N3KN

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