May 2006 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[arrl-odv:14048] Re: A+F minutes from April 29, 2006
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 11 May '06

11 May '06

Apologies to Tom for his having to resend -- we were told that messages were queued up and would be sent when the server came back on line. If you sent a message to a list that you haven't seen come through, it would be a good idea to resend. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:50 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:14046] A+F minutes from April 29, 2006 (2nd try, the first one apparently was lost during the list server outage on Monday) I've attached a copy of the Administration and Finance Committee meeting minutes from April 29th. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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A+F minutes from April 29, 2006
by Bob Vallio 10 May '06

10 May '06

Looks good to me, other than the lack of a signature and identification of who took the minutes. Bob Vallio On 5/10/06, Tom Frenaye <frenaye(a)pcnet.com> wrote: > > (2nd try, the first one apparently was lost during the list server outage > on Monday) > > I've attached a copy of the Administration and Finance Committee meeting > minutes from April 29th. > > -- Tom > > > ===== > e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director > http://www.arrl.org/ > Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444 > >

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[arrl-odv:14046] A+F minutes from April 29, 2006
by Tom Frenaye 10 May '06

10 May '06

(2nd try, the first one apparently was lost during the list server outage on Monday) I've attached a copy of the Administration and Finance Committee meeting minutes from April 29th. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[arrl-odv:14045] Re: FW: Staff departuJean Wolfgang, WB3IOS
by Kramer, Harold, WJ1B 10 May '06

10 May '06

FYI Harold Kramer, WJ1B Chief Operating Officer ARRL - The National Association for Amateur Radio 860 594 0220 http://www.arrl.org/ _____________________________________________ From: Inderbitzen, Bob, NQ1R Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:19 PM To: HQ Staff Subject: Staff departure: Jean Wolfgang, WB3IOS Jean Wolfgang, WB3IOS, has tendered her resignation. Her last day at ARRL is Tuesday, May 23. Among Jean's primary responsibilities has been administration, sales and marketing for our suite of online courses, and fulfillment of prospective ham inquiries. Please join me in wishing her our thanks for nearly 10 years of service at ARRL. Bob

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[arrl-odv:14044] Re: ARRL Phone SS Phone Plaques Redux
by Huntington Howard-CADV02 10 May '06

10 May '06

I am in agreement with Dick, Tom and Bob. I would like to augment their comments somewhat. Sponsors should see some publicity in QST regardless as an individual, club or industry. If SMC is not listed as a 2005 SS sponsor in June QST (I don't have it nearby), or any other sponsor, it is unfortunate for all of us. The result of success is that it takes up space in QST. Possibly SMC did not get their money in by the deadline, not sure how that works. SMC sponsors 8 plaques for Nov SS, four each for SSB and CW and 6 plaques for ARRL Intl DX, three each for SSB and CW. Total $: 14 plaques at $67 =$938. Of the 14 total, two are for Midwest Division and 12 for Central Division. SMC includes Great Lakes Division also though not too many members. SMC has about 400 members, is an affiliated club, and represents substantial ARRL membership. This is an important program for a large number of active core members regardless of who sponsors the plaques. Personally I would consider a plaque sponsored by a club of more value than one sponsored by industry. Regardless it seems logical to leverage success for member satisfaction and additional revenue at the same time. Howie, K9KM -----Original Message----- From: dick(a)pobox.com [mailto:dick@pobox.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:07 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:14043] Re: ARRL Phone SS Phone Plaques Redux 9 MAY 2006 - 2300 CDT Hello Jay... Like Tom, I'm not exactly sure what is the nature of your complaint. As a low-key contester, I don't expect to ever win an individual category plaque. But I do not object to helping finance the cost of some them through one or more of the clubs I belong to... if the club has the desire and the funds to make the contribution. If an amateur radio equipment manufacturer wants to donate some or all of the plaque costs for a specific contest, I see no problem as long as they do not insist on being the contest promoter/sponsor. I thought this issue with Icom had been satisfactorily worked out. If the ARRL makes a small profit in this transaction, so much the better. As for individual plaques for non-contest DX achievements, I see no problem with the individual paying for the plaque. I doubt if a commercial sponsor for these plaques will come forth. The advertising exposure is too low key. However, I think the certificate should be free with the cost being covered by the individual's card checking fees. Am I missing something here? 73 - Dick, W9GIG -----Original Message----- From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:33 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:14042] Re: ARRL Phone SS Phone Plaques Redux At 12:45 PM 5/9/2006, K0QB wrote: > >The question of Industry Sponsorship of contest awards was an issue at the past ARRL Board meeting. That started me thinking why do we need to consider such sponsorship of awards? Sometimes I don't follow the real question in Jay's messages well, this may be one of them.... Do you mean there was no discussion about it within the PSC during the last year? >Are these awards important to the contest community? Yes >Are the awards important enough to Contesters and Contest Clubs for them substantially participate in covering the costs of awards to contesters in their own geographical area? Yes, but a successful plaque program for any contest requires a serious effort to make sure donors want to continue each year, find new donors, and make sure that the promised donations actually arrive, etc. >The 2005 ARRL Phone Sweepstakes Results are found on pages 100 thorough 103 of the June 2006 issue of QST. A quick review of the Club competition and plaque sponsorship is interesting. There are 102 categories; 6 overall categories and 6 categories in each of the 15 Division and Canada. Only 14 of the winner's plaques are sponsored by clubs. An additional 12 plaques are sponsored by individuals. The remaining 76 plaques are being sponsored by ICOM, for which it gets prominent recognition. If you look at last year's DX contest results you'll see about 40 plaques sponsored by clubs and individuals. Other leaders can purchase a plaque themselves. >The club sponsors are as follows: > >Club Entries Plaques Sponsored > >Central Texas DX & Contest Club 15 1 >QRP Radio Club International 1 >North Coast Contesters 8 2 >Potomac Valley Radio Club 210 2 >Minnesota Wireless Association 103 4 I see your local boys are supportive of SS! >Mad River Radio Club 34 2 >QRP Club of New England 1 >Raleigh Amateur Radio Society 1 >NoVa QRP Group 1 >Grand Mesa Contesters of CO 21 1 > >A few observations > >The 5 clubs participating in the Affiliated Club Competition, Unlimited Category represented more the 825 log entries and certainly a substantial number of plaques winners, yet only 2 clubs (MWA and PVRC) sponsored any plaques. The big clubs that focus on SS are the ones that sponsor plaques. For example, YCCC and FRC in the northeast focus on the ARRL and CQWW DX contests. But DX contests aren't as popular in the midwest and west coast, SS is. >QRP groups sponsored 3 plaques, not surprisingly all in the QRP category. Perhaps, QRP'ers have a better sense of the value of supporting their aspect of contesting. I think you've pointed out why it is important to have good leadership in the Contest Department. I assume the we actually make a small profit from plaques after considering the administration, manufacturing, labor and shipping costs. >Only one of the four traditional "contest animal" clubs sponsored any >plaques. (PVRC) Most animal clubs like DX contests. SS is actually somewhat of a specialty contest - it has a long history and a lot of people participate but there are a whole lot of people who operate in SS and not in DX contests - and vice versa. Both are very competitive, but it's not the same crowd. >Questions: >1. If the contest community is not willing to support and celebrate the successes of its members why should ARRL ? But they do! And I assume by working with Icom for SS plaques, and now West Mountain Radio for VHF contest plaques, that someone in Newington saw a revenue opportunity. And the vendors saw a way to be visible in front of an audience they want. >2. If members of industry are willing to help financially support ARRL activities with the expectation of getting a little recognition for their support, should we squander that goodwill and interest on plaques for 102 individuals where their own community doesn't see the value in supporting those same award plaques? I don't get that comment. I guess we can refuse the money from Icom and WMR, and offer fewer plaques. It's their money, they must see it as a good investment. >3. Why those receiving contest plaques get them without charge when we charge for plaques for similar accomplishments such as 5BDXCC? It doesn't cost us a penny, does it? Not sure what the problem is... Are you trying to figure out how to make the contest program more self-sufficient? -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[arrl-odv:14043] Re: ARRL Phone SS Phone Plaques Redux
by dick＠pobox.com 10 May '06

10 May '06

9 MAY 2006 - 2300 CDT Hello Jay... Like Tom, I'm not exactly sure what is the nature of your complaint. As a low-key contester, I don't expect to ever win an individual category plaque. But I do not object to helping finance the cost of some them through one or more of the clubs I belong to... if the club has the desire and the funds to make the contribution. If an amateur radio equipment manufacturer wants to donate some or all of the plaque costs for a specific contest, I see no problem as long as they do not insist on being the contest promoter/sponsor. I thought this issue with Icom had been satisfactorily worked out. If the ARRL makes a small profit in this transaction, so much the better. As for individual plaques for non-contest DX achievements, I see no problem with the individual paying for the plaque. I doubt if a commercial sponsor for these plaques will come forth. The advertising exposure is too low key. However, I think the certificate should be free with the cost being covered by the individual's card checking fees. Am I missing something here? 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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[arrl-odv:14042] Re: ARRL Phone SS Phone Plaques Redux
by Tom Frenaye 10 May '06

10 May '06

At 12:45 PM 5/9/2006, K0QB wrote: > >The question of Industry Sponsorship of contest awards was an issue at the past ARRL Board meeting. That started me thinking why do we need to consider such sponsorship of awards? Sometimes I don't follow the real question in Jay's messages well, this may be one of them.... Do you mean there was no discussion about it within the PSC during the last year? >Are these awards important to the contest community? Yes >Are the awards important enough to Contesters and Contest Clubs for them substantially participate in covering the costs of awards to contesters in their own geographical area? Yes, but a successful plaque program for any contest requires a serious effort to make sure donors want to continue each year, find new donors, and make sure that the promised donations actually arrive, etc. >The 2005 ARRL Phone Sweepstakes Results are found on pages 100 thorough 103 of the June 2006 issue of QST. A quick review of the Club competition and plaque sponsorship is interesting. There are 102 categories; 6 overall categories and 6 categories in each of the 15 Division and Canada. Only 14 of the winner�s plaques are sponsored by clubs. An additional 12 plaques are sponsored by individuals. The remaining 76 plaques are being sponsored by ICOM, for which it gets prominent recognition. If you look at last year's DX contest results you'll see about 40 plaques sponsored by clubs and individuals. Other leaders can purchase a plaque themselves. >The club sponsors are as follows: > >Club Entries Plaques Sponsored > >Central Texas DX & Contest Club 15 1 >QRP Radio Club International 1 >North Coast Contesters 8 2 >Potomac Valley Radio Club 210 2 >Minnesota Wireless Association 103 4 I see your local boys are supportive of SS! >Mad River Radio Club 34 2 >QRP Club of New England 1 >Raleigh Amateur Radio Society 1 >NoVa QRP Group 1 >Grand Mesa Contesters of CO 21 1 > >A few observations > >The 5 clubs participating in the Affiliated Club Competition, Unlimited Category represented more the 825 log entries and certainly a substantial number of plaques winners, yet only 2 clubs (MWA and PVRC) sponsored any plaques. The big clubs that focus on SS are the ones that sponsor plaques. For example, YCCC and FRC in the northeast focus on the ARRL and CQWW DX contests. But DX contests aren't as popular in the midwest and west coast, SS is. >QRP groups sponsored 3 plaques, not surprisingly all in the QRP category. Perhaps, QRP�ers have a better sense of the value of supporting their aspect of contesting. I think you've pointed out why it is important to have good leadership in the Contest Department. I assume the we actually make a small profit from plaques after considering the administration, manufacturing, labor and shipping costs. >Only one of the four traditional �contest animal� clubs sponsored any plaques. (PVRC) Most animal clubs like DX contests. SS is actually somewhat of a specialty contest - it has a long history and a lot of people participate but there are a whole lot of people who operate in SS and not in DX contests - and vice versa. Both are very competitive, but it's not the same crowd. >Questions: >1. If the contest community is not willing to support and celebrate the successes of its members why should ARRL ? But they do! And I assume by working with Icom for SS plaques, and now West Mountain Radio for VHF contest plaques, that someone in Newington saw a revenue opportunity. And the vendors saw a way to be visible in front of an audience they want. >2. If members of industry are willing to help financially support ARRL activities with the expectation of getting a little recognition for their support, should we squander that goodwill and interest on plaques for 102 individuals where their own community doesn�t see the value in supporting those same award plaques? I don't get that comment. I guess we can refuse the money from Icom and WMR, and offer fewer plaques. It's their money, they must see it as a good investment. >3. Why those receiving contest plaques get them without charge when we charge for plaques for similar accomplishments such as 5BDXCC? It doesn't cost us a penny, does it? Not sure what the problem is... Are you trying to figure out how to make the contest program more self-sufficient? -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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ARRL Phone SS Phone Plaques Redux
by Bob Vallio 10 May '06

10 May '06

I had some concerns, myself, but after having read the comments of all who have responded thus far, I tend to agree with Mr. Weaver's comments, below. Bob Vallio On 5/9/06, Jim Weaver, K8JE <k8je(a)arrl.org> wrote: > > If I recall, correctly, the major focus of the previous discussion over > contest sponsorship was that the wording used by ICOM suggested strongly > that they were sponsoring the contest, not just the plaques. Am I not > correct? If I am correct, I have no concern whether we issue plaques vs. > certificates to winners or whether a plaque (or other trophy) is sponsored > by a club or a company. My own concern is that ARRL is clearly seen as > the contest sponsor. The fact that the winner of the Indy 500 receives > the Borg-Warner Trophy does not detract from the fact the race is held at > the Indianapolis Motor Speedway under the guidance of the Indy Racing > League. > > > > I'm finished. > > > > Sorry to repeat myself in part. > > > > *Jim Weaver, K8JE* > > *Director, Great Lakes Division* > > *Chairman, Legislative Action Committee* > > *5065 Bethany Rd.* > > *Mason, OH 45040* > > *K8JE(a)arrl.org; Tel., 513-459-0142; FAX, same* > > *ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is!* > > *Members, the Reason ARRL is!* > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* John Bellows [mailto:jbellows@skypoint.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:46 PM > *To:* arrl-odv > *Subject:* ARRL Phone SS Phone Plaques Redux > > > > I'll try again. Seems I dropped a couple of words in prior note -- JB > > > > The question of Industry Sponsorship of contest awards was an issue at the > past ARRL Board meeting. That started me thinking why do we need to consider > such sponsorship of awards? Are these awards important to the contest > community? Are the awards important enough to Contesters and Contest Clubs > for them substantially participate in covering the costs of awards to > contesters in their own geographical area? > > > > The 2005 ARRL Phone Sweepstakes Results are found on pages 100 thorough > 103 of the June 2006 issue of QST. A quick review of the Club competition > and plaque sponsorship is interesting. There are 102 categories; 6 overall > categories and 6 categories in each of the 15 Division and Canada. Only 14 > of the winner's plaques are sponsored by clubs. An additional 12 plaques are > sponsored by individuals. The remaining 76 plaques are being sponsored by > ICOM, for which it gets prominent recognition. > > > > The club sponsors are as follows: > > > > Club Entries > Plaques Sponsored > > > > Central Texas DX & Contest Club 15 1 > > QRP Radio Club International 1 > > North Coast Contesters 8 2 > > Potomac Valley Radio Club 210 2 > > Minnesota Wireless Association 103 4 > > Mad River Radio Club 34 2 > > QRP Club of New England 1 > > Raleigh Amateur Radio Society 1 > > NoVa QRP Group 1 > > Grand Mesa Contesters of CO 21 1 > > > > A few observations > > > > The 5 clubs participating in the Affiliated Club Competition, Unlimited > Category represented more the 825 log entries and certainly a substantial > number of plaques winners, yet only 2 clubs (MWA and PVRC) sponsored any > plaques. > > > > QRP groups sponsored 3 plaques, not surprisingly all in the QRP category. > Perhaps, QRP'ers have a better sense of the value of supporting their aspect > of contesting. > > > > Only one of the four traditional "contest animal" clubs sponsored any > plaques. (PVRC) > > > > Questions: > > 1. If the contest community is not willing to support and > celebrate the successes of its members why should ARRL ? > > > > 2. If members of industry are willing to help financially support > ARRL activities with the expectation of getting a little recognition for > their support, should we squander that goodwill and interest on plaques for > 102 individuals where their own community doesn't see the value in > supporting those same award plaques? > > > > 3. Why those receiving contest plaques get them without charge > when we charge for plaques for similar accomplishments such as 5BDXCC? > > > > 73, > > > > Jay, K�QB > > >

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[arrl-odv:14040] Re: FW: Broad Band support
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 09 May '06

09 May '06

The only mention of BPL I see on her Web site is a positive plug for the HomePlug in-home system. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jim Weaver, K8JE [mailto:k8je@arrl.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:59 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:14039] Re: FW: Broad Band support It'd be interesting to know just what advice Kim hands out for dealing with BPL interference. Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division Chairman, Legislative Action Committee 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040 K8JE(a)arrl.org; Tel., 513-459-0142; FAX, same ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is! -----Original Message----- From: n5ok(a)arrl.org [mailto:n5ok.ok@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:54 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:14034] FW: Broad Band support I thought this was interesting. -- ARRL West Gulf Division Director Coy Day, N5OK 20685 SW 29th St Union City, OK 73090 n5ok(a)arrl.org 405-483-5632 -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- From: CAROL77CAC(a)aol.com To: n5ok.ok(a)worldnet.att.net Subject: Broad Band support Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 20:28:25 +0000 Coy, Just heard Kim speak very favorably about Ham Radio on her Nationwide radio program. She also told a caller who mentioned the Broad Band problem to contact her and she would do what ever she could to assist. If you do not know who she is - check out her website. The Kim Komando Radio Show <http://www.komando.com/> ® and email her your information. You might even call her program - it is heard in all 50 states and she's on our side. Carol Chouinard K5YAB

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[arrl-odv:14039] Re: FW: Broad Band support
by Jim Weaver, K8JE 09 May '06

09 May '06

Itd be interesting to know just what advice Kim hands out for dealing with BPL interference. Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division Chairman, Legislative Action Committee 5065 Bethany Rd. Mason, OH 45040 K8JE(a)arrl.org; Tel., 513-459-0142; FAX, same ARRL, the Reason Amateur Radio is! Members, the Reason ARRL is! -----Original Message----- From: n5ok(a)arrl.org [mailto:n5ok.ok@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:54 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:14034] FW: Broad Band support I thought this was interesting. -- ARRL West Gulf Division Director Coy Day, N5OK 20685 SW 29th St Union City, OK 73090 n5ok(a)arrl.org 405-483-5632 -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- From: CAROL77CAC(a)aol.com To: n5ok.ok(a)worldnet.att.net Subject: Broad Band support Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 20:28:25 +0000 Coy, Just heard Kim speak very favorably about Ham Radio on her Nationwide radio program. She also told a caller who mentioned the Broad Band problem to contact her and she would do what ever she could to assist. If you do not know who she is - check out her website. The Kim Komando Radio Show ® <http://www.komando.com/> and email her your information. You might even call her program - it is heard in all 50 states and she's on our side. Carol Chouinard K5YAB

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