July 2005 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[arrl-odv:12743] Re: FCC Releases Restructuring NPRM - Not Good News
by Joel Harrison 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

If Rick was getting these emails, he probably would. The new mail system is not forwarding ODV mail or other HQ mail to his AOL account. Haynie and Imlay may be out, too. 73 Joel W5ZN p.s. Dave/Harold/Barry - From Rick...can you guys please investigate and fix the forwarding problem to AOL. -----Original Message----- From: n5ok(a)arrl.org [mailto:n5ok.ok@att.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:08 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12741] Re: FCC Releases Restructuring NPRM - Not Good News After looking this over, I see how foolish it was for me to get upset over the Regulation By Bandwidth Proposal. I can't imagine what they will do with it. Right about now, I would really like to hear what Rick has to say about the FCC. Coy -- ARRL West Gulf Division Director Coy Day, N5OK 20685 SW 29th St Union City, OK 73090 n5ok(a)arrl.org 405-483-5632

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[arrl-odv:12742] Re: CW requirement to be dropped
by Joel Harrison 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

We weren't the only one to propose a license restructure, either. You will recall the NCVEC filed an almost identical petition as ours. 73 ZN -----Original Message----- From: Bob Vallio [mailto:rbvallio@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:06 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: FCC: CW requirement to be dropped Thirty pages which may just as well have contained no text. If there is no way to attack this complete disregard for the organization which represents more licensed Amateur Radio Operators than all of the other petitioners combined, we might as well go out of business. -- Bob Vallio -- W6RGG Pacific Division Director, ARRL The national association for AMATEUR RADIO

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[arrl-odv:12741] Re: FCC Releases Restructuring NPRM - Not Good News
by n5ok.ok＠att.net 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

After looking this over, I see how foolish it was for me to get upset over the Regulation By Bandwidth Proposal. I can't imagine what they will do with it. Right about now, I would really like to hear what Rick has to say about the FCC. Coy -- ARRL West Gulf Division Director Coy Day, N5OK 20685 SW 29th St Union City, OK 73090 n5ok(a)arrl.org 405-483-5632

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FCC: CW requirement to be dropped
by Bob Vallio 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

Thirty pages which may just as well have contained no text. If there is no way to attack this complete disregard for the organization which represents more licensed Amateur Radio Operators than all of the other petitioners combined, we might as well go out of business. -- Bob Vallio -- W6RGG Pacific Division Director, ARRL The national association for AMATEUR RADIO On 7/20/05, Tom Frenaye <frenaye(a)pcnet.com> wrote: > Haven't read this yet but it looks important... -- Tom > > 7/20/05 FCC Daily Digest > > >AMENDMENT OF PART 97 OF THE COMMISSION'S RULES TO IMPLEMENT WRC-03 > >REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO REQUIREMENTS FOR OPERATOR LICENSES IN THE > >AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE. Revised the amateur service rules to elimnate > >the telegraphy testing requirement. Seek comment on these proposed rule > >changes. Rule changes proposed by some petitioners are unnecessary, or > >being considered in the Phone Band Expansion NPRM. by Order. (Dkt No. > >05-235). Action by: the Commission. Adopted: 07/15/2005 by NPRM. (FCC > >No. 05-143). WTB > ><http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-143A1.doc> > ><http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-143A1.pdf> > ><http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-143A1.txt> > > > ===== > e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ > Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444 > > > >

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[arrl-odv:12739] Re: FCC Releases Restructuring NPRM - Not Good News
by Joel Harrison 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

Hi Brian, Not speaking for Chris, but of my own opinion, it should have no ramifications as the two are not related. Chris, however, may have a different view. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: Brian Mileshosky [mailto:n5zgt@swcp.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 4:47 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12736] Re: FCC Releases Restructuring NPRM - Not Good News Chris, Pardon my ignorance, but what ramifications (if any) does this NPRM have on the bandwidth proposal that was voted on at the last BOD meeting? 73, Brian, N5ZGT On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 W3KD(a)aol.com wrote: > Greetings. The FCC today released its NPRM in Docket 05-235. They did not > propose to adopt our restructuring II proposal. They instead proposed only to > eliminate telegraphy examination requirements completely from Amateur licensing. > > We are attempting to find out what the actual rationale is for this proposal, > and their rejection of our carefully crafted proposal, which had substantial > support. > > The comment date is long, and we will have plenty of opportunity to see about > bringing this back on track. > > Here is the NPRM text in word format. > 73, > Chris W3KD > ARRL Vice-Director, Rocky Mountain Division

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[arrl-odv:12738] Re: FCC: CW requirement to be dropped
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

As Tom has already reported, the FCC has released an NPRM on what we have called "Restructuring II" but that stops well short of the restructuring we had envisioned and argued for. Essentially all that is being proposed is the dropping of the Morse code element from all three exams. I have given Rick Lindquist a quote for the Web story to the effect that we're disappointed that the FCC has not seized the opportunity to give Amateur Radio the restructured license system it needs for the 21st Century -- that what the FCC is proposing is simple, but simplest is seldom best -- and that the ARRL will have a coordinated set of comments once the Board has had an opportunity to study the Commission's rationale. Dave K1ZZ ________________________________ From: Frenaye, Tom (Dir, NE) Sent: Wed 7/20/2005 9:29 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12730] FCC: CW requirement to be dropped Haven't read this yet but it looks important... -- Tom 7/20/05 FCC Daily Digest >AMENDMENT OF PART 97 OF THE COMMISSION'S RULES TO IMPLEMENT WRC-03 >REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO REQUIREMENTS FOR OPERATOR LICENSES IN THE >AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE. Revised the amateur service rules to elimnate >the telegraphy testing requirement. Seek comment on these proposed rule >changes. Rule changes proposed by some petitioners are unnecessary, or >being considered in the Phone Band Expansion NPRM. by Order. (Dkt No. >05-235). Action by: the Commission. Adopted: 07/15/2005 by NPRM. (FCC >No. 05-143). WTB ><http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-143A1.doc> ><http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-143A1.pdf> ><http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-143A1.txt> ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[arrl-odv:12737] Re: DRAFT Minutes of July Board Meeting
by dick＠pobox.com 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

20 JUL, 2005 - 1710 CDT Dave, Your [ODV 12727] message is the first time I have seen the draft board meeting minutes. After re-reading the various amendments to our proposal to regulate by bandwidth, I think the minutes are in order. 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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[arrl-odv:12736] Re: FCC Releases Restructuring NPRM - Not Good News
by Brian Mileshosky 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

Chris, Pardon my ignorance, but what ramifications (if any) does this NPRM have on the bandwidth proposal that was voted on at the last BOD meeting? 73, Brian, N5ZGT On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 W3KD(a)aol.com wrote: > Greetings. The FCC today released its NPRM in Docket 05-235. They did not > propose to adopt our restructuring II proposal. They instead proposed only to > eliminate telegraphy examination requirements completely from Amateur licensing. > > We are attempting to find out what the actual rationale is for this proposal, > and their rejection of our carefully crafted proposal, which had substantial > support. > > The comment date is long, and we will have plenty of opportunity to see about > bringing this back on track. > > Here is the NPRM text in word format. > 73, > Chris W3KD > ARRL Vice-Director, Rocky Mountain Division

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[arrl-odv:12735] Re: FCC: CW requirement to be dropped
by Andy Oppel 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

Sadly, they seem to have use the number of petitions they received on the morse code requirement as the measure of where the sentiments of most amateur licensees lie. It amounts to the old system of weighing the stacks of paper and selecting the one with the highest weight. -- Andy Oppel, N6AJO At 01:44 PM 7/20/2005, you wrote: >It is important but not pleasing. > >I just got off the phone with Dave and Chris. Chris is still sorting it out >but it appears all the Commission is proposing is to eliminate the Morse >requirement and nothing else. > >Obviously, this is unacceptable as far as not giving any attention to >restructuring. > >More as this develops. > >73 Joel W5ZN > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com] >Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:29 PM >To: arrl-odv >Subject: [arrl-odv:12730] FCC: CW requirement to be dropped > > >Haven't read this yet but it looks important... -- Tom > >7/20/05 FCC Daily Digest > > >AMENDMENT OF PART 97 OF THE COMMISSION'S RULES TO IMPLEMENT WRC-03 > >REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO REQUIREMENTS FOR OPERATOR LICENSES IN THE > >AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE. Revised the amateur service rules to elimnate > >the telegraphy testing requirement. Seek comment on these proposed rule > >changes. Rule changes proposed by some petitioners are unnecessary, or > >being considered in the Phone Band Expansion NPRM. by Order. (Dkt No. > >05-235). Action by: the Commission. Adopted: 07/15/2005 by NPRM. (FCC > >No. 05-143). WTB > ><http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-143A1.doc> > ><http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-143A1.pdf> > ><http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-05-143A1.txt> > > >===== >e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director >http://www.arrl.org/ >Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[arrl-odv:12734] FCC Releases Restructuring NPRM - Not Good News
by W3KD＠aol.com 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

Greetings. The FCC today released its NPRM in Docket 05-235. They did not propose to adopt our restructuring II proposal. They instead proposed only to eliminate telegraphy examination requirements completely from Amateur licensing. We are attempting to find out what the actual rationale is for this proposal, and their rejection of our carefully crafted proposal, which had substantial support. The comment date is long, and we will have plenty of opportunity to see about bringing this back on track. Here is the NPRM text in word format. 73, Chris W3KD

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