April 2005 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[arrl-odv:12088] Re: odv:12072
by Joyce Birmingham 11 Apr '05

11 Apr '05

Les, You have hit the nail right on the head! I'm finding more and more in my travels as Vice Director throughout the Hudson Division, people want to get into Amateur Radio, because it's fun. Yes, that's why we do it, isn't it? Because it's fun. You take away that fun and try to shove too much Public Service down someone's throat and also overload them, with too much of "the latest and greatest" high Tech gadgets, then you have problems. I think the responsibility is on us....meaning all of us, not just the board, but everyone in Amateur Radio today, to create an attractive hobby. One that will interest everyone, by showing them, how many facets of Amateur Radio there are. A hobby within a hobby, I've heard it said, by some. Something for everyone! Do I see the need for the High Tech stuff? Absolutely! But, we must not forget where we have come from, and we can't ignore what interested us most when we came into this hobby. But, we can promote it as "your Amateur Radio"....that's what I do when I speak to these clubs. I work off of my own excitement, and I find that is very contagious. I do concentrate on Public Service, but when dealing with new hams, I take a light approach, and try to engage their interests. It's a big hobby, with much to offer and great opportunities for us to "Mentor" and make new friends! 73, Joyce, KA2ANF ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Mondro To: arrl-odv Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: [arrl-odv:12086] Re: odv:12072 Les, It's nice to see your opinion in the mix. That's one of the nice features of amateur radio, the fact that there are so many options available to us. I have no problem with rag chewers or contesters or ATV, if that's what you like, that's what you are entitled to enjoy. Many licensees though, choose to get involved in public service and that's a good thing too. That's what makes the amateur radio service so unique.something for almost everyone. I do believe though that we must realize that those non members out there are our sole "membership pool." Many of them have no idea what the League can do for them, so I feel that instead of ignoring them, we must educate them and show them what benefits are available through League membership. Thanks for your comments and I look forward to seeing you this Summer. 73, Dick Dick Mondro, W8FQT Vice Director ARRL, Great Lakes Division w8fqt(a)arrl.org http://greatlakes.arrl.org -----Original Message----- From: Gilgal [mailto:k4nk@wctel.net] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:59 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12074] odv:12072 Maybe I'm reading something into all this that is not there. But Dick's comments seem to state that in the future all amateur radio will be "high tech" or nothing. And i get the feeling that perhaps because of homeland security issues that amateurs MUST play a part in emergency communications. I have heard the statement before that we exist because of our emergency capacity. I've been licensed forty some years and been around the block. I can only say for myself that I am not interested in emergency communications nor am I interested in the latest high tech gadgets, for me ham radio must be fun and I find that fun with old technology. Should the rules ever change I would have to find another hobby. Just my feelings ...........no hard feelings here. Rev. Les Shattuck K4NK

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[arrl-odv:12087] Re: odv:12072
by Jim K8JE 10 Apr '05

10 Apr '05

Les, You sound much like me. I respect the newer technologies, but I'm clearly behind the times insofar as the technology I use for Amateur Radio is concerned. I've "progressed" from a straight key that I used until 5 years ago and went to the keyer built in to my rig without dallying with a semi-automatic. Actually, I'd picked up a Vibroplex that was in near-mint condition, but sold it to a local collector of these and got paddles for the keyer. I also have to admit that my AM operating is zilch, now. I used it with my old Heath Cheyenne and Comanche, but went to SSB with one of the Eico transceivers that took about an hour to warm up and stop drifting! Eico 753? Enjoy. I am. 73, CU and GL, Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: Gilgal [mailto:k4nk@wctel.net] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:31 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12084] Re: odv:12072 Jim; I thought my remarks would be unfounded. Yes I do indeed love the old stuff . I think the world has moved past what I would consider real Amateur Radio as the technology progresses. I'll hang in there as long as there is a few Khz. to operate my vibroplex. Hi. Thanks 73 Les K4NK----- Original Message ----- From: Jim K8JE <mailto:K8JE@arrl.org> To: arrl-odv <mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 12:18 AM Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:12074] odv:12072 Considering that AM and CW using standard keys are still around, Les, I suspect it will be long after we are gone that CW by keyer and SSB will go away. I imagine Amateur Radio would disappear before this happens. After all, the only reason spark gap made such an unwilling demise many decades ago is FCC's mandate. Even so, I suspect Dick makes a good point that it won't be too long before digital voice etc. hit the scene with gusto. 73 Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: Gilgal [mailto:k4nk@wctel.net] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:59 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12074] odv:12072 Maybe I'm reading something into all this that is not there. But Dick's comments seem to state that in the future all amateur radio will be "high tech" or nothing. And i get the feeling that perhaps because of homeland security issues that amateurs MUST play a part in emergency communications. I have heard the statement before that we exist because of our emergency capacity. I've been licensed forty some years and been around the block. I can only say for myself that I am not interested in emergency communications nor am I interested in the latest high tech gadgets, for me ham radio must be fun and I find that fun with old technology. Should the rules ever change I would have to find another hobby. Just my feelings ...........no hard feelings here. Rev. Les Shattuck K4NK

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[arrl-odv:12086] Re: odv:12072
by Dick Mondro 10 Apr '05

10 Apr '05

Les, Its nice to see your opinion in the mix. Thats one of the nice features of amateur radio, the fact that there are so many options available to us. I have no problem with rag chewers or contesters or ATV, if thats what you like, thats what you are entitled to enjoy. Many licensees though, choose to get involved in public service and thats a good thing too. Thats what makes the amateur radio service so uniquesomething for almost everyone. I do believe though that we must realize that those non members out there are our sole membership pool. Many of them have no idea what the League can do for them, so I feel that instead of ignoring them, we must educate them and show them what benefits are available through League membership. Thanks for your comments and I look forward to seeing you this Summer. 73, Dick Dick Mondro, W8FQT Vice Director ARRL, Great Lakes Division w8fqt(a)arrl.org http://greatlakes.arrl.org -----Original Message----- From: Gilgal [mailto:k4nk@wctel.net] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:59 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12074] odv:12072 Maybe I'm reading something into all this that is not there. But Dick's comments seem to state that in the future all amateur radio will be "high tech" or nothing. And i get the feeling that perhaps because of homeland security issues that amateurs MUST play a part in emergency communications. I have heard the statement before that we exist because of our emergency capacity. I've been licensed forty some years and been around the block. I can only say for myself that I am not interested in emergency communications nor am I interested in the latest high tech gadgets, for me ham radio must be fun and I find that fun with old technology. Should the rules ever change I would have to find another hobby. Just my feelings ...........no hard feelings here. Rev. Les Shattuck K4NK

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[arrl-odv:12085] Thought provoking
by Tom Frenaye 10 Apr '05

10 Apr '05

This article from CFO Magazine caught me - made me think some about where ham radio is going in the future. Some very interesting things to ponder - just substitute "ham radio" for "typewriter" or "DVD-rental" as you read the article. We're not exactly a product-focused organization but there are plenty of similarities to what we are struggling with. -- Tom The Turning Point What options do companies have when their industries are dying? Kris Frieswick, CFO Magazine April 01, 2005 http://www.cfo.com/printable/article.cfm/3786531?f=options ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[arrl-odv:12084] Re: odv:12072
by Gilgal 10 Apr '05

10 Apr '05

Jim; I thought my remarks would be unfounded. Yes I do indeed love the old stuff . I think the world has moved past what I would consider real Amateur Radio as the technology progresses. I'll hang in there as long as there is a few Khz. to operate my vibroplex. Hi. Thanks 73 Les K4NK----- Original Message ----- From: Jim K8JE To: arrl-odv Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 12:18 AM Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:12074] odv:12072 Considering that AM and CW using standard keys are still around, Les, I suspect it will be long after we are gone that CW by keyer and SSB will go away. I imagine Amateur Radio would disappear before this happens. After all, the only reason spark gap made such an unwilling demise many decades ago is FCC's mandate. Even so, I suspect Dick makes a good point that it won't be too long before digital voice etc. hit the scene with gusto. 73 Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: Gilgal [mailto:k4nk@wctel.net] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:59 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12074] odv:12072 Maybe I'm reading something into all this that is not there. But Dick's comments seem to state that in the future all amateur radio will be "high tech" or nothing. And i get the feeling that perhaps because of homeland security issues that amateurs MUST play a part in emergency communications. I have heard the statement before that we exist because of our emergency capacity. I've been licensed forty some years and been around the block. I can only say for myself that I am not interested in emergency communications nor am I interested in the latest high tech gadgets, for me ham radio must be fun and I find that fun with old technology. Should the rules ever change I would have to find another hobby. Just my feelings ...........no hard feelings here. Rev. Les Shattuck K4NK

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RE: [arrl-odv:12074] odv:12072
by Jim K8JE 09 Apr '05

09 Apr '05

Considering that AM and CW using standard keys are still around, Les, I suspect it will be long after we are gone that CW by keyer and SSB will go away. I imagine Amateur Radio would disappear before this happens. After all, the only reason spark gap made such an unwilling demise many decades ago is FCC's mandate. Even so, I suspect Dick makes a good point that it won't be too long before digital voice etc. hit the scene with gusto. 73 Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: Gilgal [mailto:k4nk@wctel.net] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:59 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12074] odv:12072 Maybe I'm reading something into all this that is not there. But Dick's comments seem to state that in the future all amateur radio will be "high tech" or nothing. And i get the feeling that perhaps because of homeland security issues that amateurs MUST play a part in emergency communications. I have heard the statement before that we exist because of our emergency capacity. I've been licensed forty some years and been around the block. I can only say for myself that I am not interested in emergency communications nor am I interested in the latest high tech gadgets, for me ham radio must be fun and I find that fun with old technology. Should the rules ever change I would have to find another hobby. Just my feelings ...........no hard feelings here. Rev. Les Shattuck K4NK

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RE: [arrl-odv:12076] Revolution is coming to Newington
by Dennis Bodson 09 Apr '05

09 Apr '05

Congratulations to all. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:13 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12076] Revolution is coming to Newington Just found out that the semi-covert Extra Class licensing class for HQ YL employees was very successful. The FCC database shows these brandy-new Extra's as of Thursday's update: Carole Dimock N1NAM Penny Harts N1NAG Mary Hobart K1MMH Debra Johnson AB1EW (was KB1LMT) Rose Anne Lawrence KB1DMW I'm impressed. 73 Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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RE: [arrl-odv:12076] Revolution is coming to Newington
by Jim K8JE 09 Apr '05

09 Apr '05

TREMENDOUS! Jim Weaver, K8JE Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL; http://www.arrl.org/ 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040 Tel.: 513-459-0142; E-mail: k8je(a)arrl.org ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio Is! MEMBERS: The reason ARRL Is! -----Original Message----- From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:13 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:12076] Revolution is coming to Newington Just found out that the semi-covert Extra Class licensing class for HQ YL employees was very successful. The FCC database shows these brandy-new Extra's as of Thursday's update: Carole Dimock N1NAM Penny Harts N1NAG Mary Hobart K1MMH Debra Johnson AB1EW (was KB1LMT) Rose Anne Lawrence KB1DMW I'm impressed. 73 Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[arrl-odv:12077] Re: Revolution is coming to Newington
by Kay Craigie 09 Apr '05

09 Apr '05

X-CALLISTO-MailScanner-SpamScos X-MailScanner-From: n3kn(a)comcast.net Return-Path: n3kn(a)comcast.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2005 00:08:01.0530 (UTC) FILETIME=[31A1A5A0:01C53C98] Thanks for passing along this excellent news, Tom. Congratulations to the new upgrades and kudos to the staff members involved in the stealth ops. 73 - Kay N3KN

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[arrl-odv:12076] Revolution is coming to Newington
by Tom Frenaye 08 Apr '05

08 Apr '05

Just found out that the semi-covert Extra Class licensing class for HQ YL employees was very successful. The FCC database shows these brandy-new Extra's as of Thursday's update: Carole Dimock N1NAM Penny Harts N1NAG Mary Hobart K1MMH Debra Johnson AB1EW (was KB1LMT) Rose Anne Lawrence KB1DMW I'm impressed. 73 Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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