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[ARRL-ODV:10951] Re: FW: Complaint Progress Energy Part 15 Devices
by James McCobb 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

Hi Wade, I don't know much about the intellectual capacity of the FCC, but it is pretty clear here that the real culprit resides in a White House and has the support of a strong lobbying effort with deeper pockets than will ever dream of having. Honestly or not, the White House believes that BPL has the potential to create meaningful jobs which our land sorely needs and if this Administration feels like it they will break thru (saying the hell with) part 15 regulations. So our getting unsettled by the FCC gets us nowhere---we should continue to deal with this problem in the same professional manner that we have been, which is more than can be said for some electric industry groups. The FCC is doing what it is told to do and I am sure many of them don't like it. So pouring oil on their wounds won't help. The real problem lies in the White House and that is where many many situations like BPL (even the very Republican Wall Street is getting weary of the administrations antics) have been originating for the past couple of years. So lets deal with the BPL as we are capable of doing, very professionally and use our individual vote to get an alternative in the WH, knocking the current group off the track and out of office. I know I sound like I am on a soap box but that's my somewhat political view of the entire BPL issue. We have the knowledge, persistence and regulations on our side, so lets just keep at it---lets send them home permanently after the year end Holiday Season. 73 and have a nice weekend, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <walstrom(a)mchsi.com> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 9:53 PM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10948] Re: FW: Complaint Progress Energy Part 15 Devices > It gets real discouraging when an agency such as the FCC is so hell-bent on > implementing a new "service" that it ignores part of its own regulations to > justify its existance. > > Another equally troubling scenario is that the clowns at the FCC are so > incompetent that they do not even understand their own rules and regulations! > > This is bad news! > > Rick, you're buddy-buddy with these guys, what do you recommend? > > 73, > > Wade W0EJ/1 > > >

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[ARRL-ODV:10950] Re: FW: Complaint Progress Energy Part 15 Devices
by Joel Harrison 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

MessageI'm reminded of one of my favorite lines from the Movie "Airplane!". Chris knows which one I'm referring to. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:31 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10942] Re: FW: Complaint Progress Energy Part 15 Devices The FCC has sent the attached letter describing its findings in the North Carolina interference case. Obviously we will not let it go unchallenged. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Alan Stillwell [mailto:Alan.Stillwell@fcc.gov] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:20 AM To: n4tab(a)earthlink.net Cc: Len.S.Anthony(a)pgnmail.com; matt.oja(a)pgnmail.com; bill.godwin(a)pgnmail.com; Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; Imlay, Chris; George Dillon; Riley Hollingsworth Subject: Complaint re: Progress Energy Part 15 Devices Dear Mr. Brown, The attached letter responds to your complaint of April 27, 2004 regarding the operations of Progress Energy Corporation's BPL trials in Southern Wake County, North Carolina. A signed copy of this letter is being mailed to your address as provided in your complaint. Alan Stillwell Senior Associate Chief, Office of Engineering and Technology, Federal Communications Commission

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[ARRL-ODV:10949] Re: FW: Complaint Progress Energy Part 15 Devices
by W3KD＠aol.com 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

In a message dated 7/22/2004 9:53:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, walstrom(a)mchsi.com writes: > > It gets real discouraging when an agency such as the FCC is so hell-bent on > implementing a new "service" that it ignores part of its own regulations to > justify its existance. > > Wade, we are really close here to having to consider a complaint to the Inspector General. This "investigation" in North Carolina is arguably over the line in jimmying the evidence to achieve a predetermined outcome. I think Chwat and Zack can make something of this with Walden and our other friends on the Telecom subcommittee. Chris

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[ARRL-ODV:10948] Re: FW: Complaint Progress Energy Part 15 Devices
by walstrom＠mchsi.com 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

It gets real discouraging when an agency such as the FCC is so hell-bent on implementing a new "service" that it ignores part of its own regulations to justify its existance. Another equally troubling scenario is that the clowns at the FCC are so incompetent that they do not even understand their own rules and regulations! This is bad news! Rick, you're buddy-buddy with these guys, what do you recommend? 73, Wade W0EJ/1

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[ARRL-ODV:10947] Re: FW: Complaint Progress Energy Part 15 Devices
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 22 Jul '04

22 Jul '04

Here is our letter to Mr. Franca. Dave K1ZZ

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[ARRL-ODV:10946] Ad Hoc National Convention Committee
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 22 Jul '04

22 Jul '04

President Haynie has named Director Frenaye as chairman of this committee. The other members are as previously announced: Directors Bellows, Weaver, and Walstrom, and Mr. Motschenbacher. The committee's report is due by September 1. David Sumner, K1ZZ Secretary

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[ARRL-ODV:10945] Re: FW: Broadband over PowerLine - NEW from UTC Research
by Tom Frenaye 22 Jul '04

22 Jul '04

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[ARRL-ODV:10944] RE: [ARRL-ODV:10943] Re: Re: FW: Complaint Progress Energy Part 15 Devices
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 22 Jul '04

22 Jul '04

Right, Rick. I'm sure that if they drove out to your station with little bitty bicon and loop antennas, they wouldn't hear what you hear in your shack. I've drafted a letter to Franca and am trying to get it coordinated today. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Roderick, Rick (aol.com) Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:36 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10943] Re: Re: FW: Complaint Progress Energy Part 15 Devices Oh, gee whiz.... That letter is awful. OK.... notch this, notch that, so you hams have a little interference.... Sorry hams, it ain't that bad. You can see the hand writing on the wall. 73, K5UR In a message dated 7/22/2004 8:31:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ" <dsumner(a)arrl.org> writes: >The FCC has sent the attached letter describing its findings in the North Carolina interference case. > >Obviously we will not let it go unchallenged. > >Dave K1ZZ > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alan Stillwell [mailto:Alan.Stillwell@fcc.gov] >Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:20 AM >To: n4tab(a)earthlink.net >Cc: Len.S.Anthony(a)pgnmail.com; matt.oja(a)pgnmail.com; bill.godwin(a)pgnmail.com; Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; Imlay, Chris; George Dillon; Riley Hollingsworth >Subject: Complaint re: Progress Energy Part 15 Devices > > >Dear Mr. Brown, > >The attached letter responds to your complaint of April 27, 2004 regarding the operations of Progress Energy Corporation's BPL trials in Southern Wake County, North Carolina. A signed copy of this letter is being mailed to your address as provided in your complaint. > >Alan Stillwell >Senior Associate Chief, >Office of Engineering and Technology, >Federal Communications Commission >

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[ARRL-ODV:10943] Re: Re: FW: Complaint Progress Energy Part 15 Devices
by K5ur＠aol.com 22 Jul '04

22 Jul '04

Oh, gee whiz.... That letter is awful. OK.... notch this, notch that, so you hams have a little interference.... Sorry hams, it ain't that bad. You can see the hand writing on the wall. 73, K5UR In a message dated 7/22/2004 8:31:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ" <dsumner(a)arrl.org> writes: >The FCC has sent the attached letter describing its findings in the North Carolina interference case. > >Obviously we will not let it go unchallenged. > >Dave K1ZZ > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alan Stillwell [mailto:Alan.Stillwell@fcc.gov] >Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:20 AM >To: n4tab(a)earthlink.net >Cc: Len.S.Anthony(a)pgnmail.com; matt.oja(a)pgnmail.com; bill.godwin(a)pgnmail.com; Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; Imlay, Chris; George Dillon; Riley Hollingsworth >Subject: Complaint re: Progress Energy Part 15 Devices > > >Dear Mr. Brown, > >The attached letter responds to your complaint of April 27, 2004 regarding the operations of Progress Energy Corporation's BPL trials in Southern Wake County, North Carolina. A signed copy of this letter is being mailed to your address as provided in your complaint. > >Alan Stillwell >Senior Associate Chief, >Office of Engineering and Technology, >Federal Communications Commission >

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[ARRL-ODV:10942] Re: FW: Complaint Progress Energy Part 15 Devices
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 22 Jul '04

22 Jul '04

The FCC has sent the attached letter describing its findings in the North Carolina interference case. Obviously we will not let it go unchallenged. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Alan Stillwell [mailto:Alan.Stillwell@fcc.gov] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:20 AM To: n4tab(a)earthlink.net Cc: Len.S.Anthony(a)pgnmail.com; matt.oja(a)pgnmail.com; bill.godwin(a)pgnmail.com; Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; Imlay, Chris; George Dillon; Riley Hollingsworth Subject: Complaint re: Progress Energy Part 15 Devices Dear Mr. Brown, The attached letter responds to your complaint of April 27, 2004 regarding the operations of Progress Energy Corporation's BPL trials in Southern Wake County, North Carolina. A signed copy of this letter is being mailed to your address as provided in your complaint. Alan Stillwell Senior Associate Chief, Office of Engineering and Technology, Federal Communications Commission

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