March 2004 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:10344] Re: BPL and Bush
by Joel Harrison 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

I understand that, Tom, and have no problem with broadband service......wish I could get it out here where I live through the phone/cable lines. My point was my interpretation of the position he seemed to be taking in that broadband has to become a reality all over the country, regardless of the cost to existing services, and that the FCC Chairman and Commissioners would interpret that as a marching order to grab anything that would accomplish that goal, regardless of the cost to existing services. By the way, there is more than one radio astronomer opposed to BPL, their entire group is opposed to it. We've just personally heard from the one that is also a radio amateur. 73 Joel W5ZN >I think we need to be sure we make that very clear -it's BPL we oppose, not broadband. I don't want all 280 million people to be opposed to 680 thousand hams, a dozen CBers >and a radioastronomer.

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[ARRL-ODV:10343] Re: Fwd: [PR:3661] 3657] FEMA's filed comments on BPL
by W5JBP＠aol.com 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

In a message dated 3/27/2004 7:34:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, frenaye(a)pcnet.com writes: > I'd sure like to know what the story is here. So would I. Seems a lot of pressure being put on the NTIA by someone "very" high up. Jim

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[ARRL-ODV:10342] Chicago Tribune's Take On Bush's Broadband Comments
by dick＠pobox.com 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

27 MAR, 2004 - 2030 CST There is no mention of BPL in the Chicago Tribune's report on George Bush's broadband comments in Albuquerque, NM. 73 - Dick, W9GIG ======================================================================= Bush backs broadband push Timing of comment stirs discussion By Jon Van Tribune staff reporter March 27, 2004 President Bush on Friday called for affordable high-speed Internet access for all Americans by 2007 in a speech that left many Washington insiders curious as to what prompted the comment. Campaigning in Albuquerque, Bush also said that once universal broadband is a reality, "we ought to make sure that as soon as possible thereafter consumers have plenty of choices." But while the specifics of the proposal were vague and the topic hardly controversial, it was the first time in nearly two years the president talked about broadband. "It's important that we stay on the cutting edge of technological change, and one way to do so is to have a bold plan for broadband," Bush said. He did not say how the 2007 goal would be met. Executives in the telecom and electronics industries have urged Bush to publicly support broadband as a way of boosting the economy and generating jobs. They thought he would promote broadband in his 2003 State of the Union address, but it never happened. "It's probably an election-year ploy," said Van Cullens, chief of Westell Technologies Inc. "But I'll take it. It could be helpful if the administration follows up with... tax credits for research and development." Cullens' Aurora firm makes broadband equipment and has been working for years with groups seeking to enlist Washington's support. "We're probably the only industrial nation in the world that doesn't have a communications policy," he said. Shortly after President Bush's speech, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry also mentioned the high-speed Internet technology during a speech in Detroit. "I will focus on raising American competitiveness by spurring the growth of new industries like the broadband technology that will dominate the future," Kerry said. While it is unclear why the president broke his silence on the issue Friday, some speculate it is related to the heated battle among phone giants over the wholesale rates they can charge rivals. Since a federal appeals court ruled earlier this month that the current rate system should be scrapped, long-distance carriers AT&T and MCI have been lobbying hard for a Supreme Court appeal. They are opposed by SBC Communications Inc., Verizon Communications Inc. and other local phone giants who applauded the court ruling. The lobbying has included appeals to Bush from economists on both sides of the fight. Bush's administration is split on the rate issue: Michael Powell, chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, sides with SBC, while commissioner Kevin Martin, also a Republican, sides with AT&T. In a statement Friday, Powell said he looked "forward to working with my commission colleagues, Congress and the administration to deliver on this vision for the American people." The fight over wholesale phone rates ultimately raises the bigger question of what the Bush administration's communications policy will look like, said Raymond Gifford, president of the Washington-based Progress & Freedom Foundation. Rather than formulate policies to address thorny telecom issues, Gifford said the Bush administration "acts is if it wishes these issues would just go away." While Bush's broadband pronouncement surprised the telecom industry, it was welcome. "We look forward to working further with the Bush administration on realizing these broadband deployment goals," said H. Russell Frisby Jr., chief of the CompTel/ASCENT Alliance, a trade group representing competitive telecom carriers such as AT&T. Walter B. McCormick Jr., president of the United States Telecom Association-- a trade group representing incumbent carriers, including SBC and Verizon-- also praised Bush's statement. But while Mark Cooper, telecom policy director of the Consumer Federation of America, said he was pleased to hear Bush address the topic, he doubted the comments would lead to anything constructive. "What he probably means is he wants to let the phone companies and the cable operators lock up broadband and squeeze all the money they can out of consumers," he said. Copyright © 2004, <http://www.chicagotribune.com/>Chicago Tribune

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[ARRL-ODV:10341] FW: editorial QS-5
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

Since Tom mentioned our earlier exchange, here is the reply I sent to him. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Sent: Sat 3/27/2004 8:41 PM To: Frenaye, Tom (Dir, NE) Cc: Haynie, Jim (President) Subject: RE: editorial QS-5 Tom, the extreme example was deliberate (however, I didn't say "porn") and I was willing to put my name on it to make two points. First, there are very real consequences to amateurs from the FCC's Ivory Tower "don't worry, the rules protect you" approach. Second, there is no reason whatsoever for us to be defensive about the quality of the content of amateur communications compared to the Internet. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Frenaye, Tom (Dir, NE) Sent: Sat 3/27/2004 8:25 PM To: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Cc: Haynie, Jim (President) Subject: editorial QS-5 I showed off your May editorial at the Maine State Convention ARRL forum today. One person said he was pretty uncomfortable with the choice of words - drunk neighbor downloading porn. I tend to agree that it may be too inflammatory or at least not the nest choice. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:10340] Re: Fwd: [PR:3661] 3657] FEMA's filed comments on BPL
by Tom Frenaye 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

I'd sure like to know what the story is here. -- Tom >Subject: [PR:3661] Re: 3657] FEMA's filed comments on BPL >Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:29:57 -0500 >From: "Hagy Jennifer, N1TDY" <n1tdy(a)arrl.org> >To: "pr list" <pr(a)reflector.arrl.org> > >Actually, in a letter that just became public record, FEMA has backed down a bit on its position. I don't know what the story is there, but I'm including a link to that letter. For that reason, it might be a good idea to leave FEMA out of the mix for now. > >FEMA letter - <http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_docume…> > >Also, and this is not in response to Rich's letter, but in response to the many others I've seen...I would urge anyone writing to Ken Brown - or any other reporter for that matter - to carefully consider the letter's tone and content before pushing "send." I've seen several that are downright rude, with incorrect technical information. If we want reporters to respect the Amateur Radio community and cover the ham radio angle in the future, we need to be sure that our responses are appropriate. It's easy to do more harm than good. > >73 >Jen Hagy, N1TDY >ARRL > >-----Original Message----- >From: alan.kaul(a)att.net [mailto:alan.kaul@att.net] >Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 5:43 PM >To: pr >Subject: [PR:3657] FEMA's filed comments on BPL > >If anyone on this list is planning on writing >a news release, making a speech, or being >interviewed by the Wall Street Journal or any >other publication, re: BPL, I would urge you >to make use of (i.e. quote from, etc.) the FEMA >(Federal Emergency Management Agency) FCC filing >on this topic. > >You can find it on the FCC website by clicking >on the following url: > >http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_docume… > >This particular version of the FEMA position is >in Adobe Acrobat (.pdf) format. > >73 DE ALAN > >-- >Alan Kaul W6RCL LaCanada, CA 91011 >e-mail: w6rcl(a)amsat.org >http://home.att.net/~alan.kaul/index.html ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:10339] Re: BPL and Bush
by Tom Frenaye 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

This was posted on some other e-mail reflector I subscribe to, I forget which one. The really key thing to understand is that broadband does not mean BPL. I like broadband. Just deliver it to me via cable, or satellite, or microwave radio or fiber. It's BPL delivery of broadband that is bad. I'm even for subsidized broadband to serve rural areas, just like power and telephone were extended. Just not BPL. I think we need to be sure we make that very clear -it's BPL we oppose, not broadband. I don't want all 280 million people to be opposed to 680 thousand hams, a dozen CBers and a radioastronomer. -- Tom At 03:26 PM 3/27/2004, you wrote: >Here is the relevant excerpt of the speech from the transcript on the White House Web site. > >This gives us a hook to encourage members to do something that at least one member has been urging us to do: write to the President about the BPL interference issue. > >Dave K1ZZ > > >I want to talk about one other thing we've got to do to make sure this is a good place for people to realize their dreams and start a business and get well educated, is we've got to make sure this country is on the leading end of broadband technology. You see, new ideas and new businesses and new ways to educate people in Farmington, New Mexico are going to occur when we're able to get information flowing across cables and telephone lines in a fast way. That's what broadband technology is. It means we'll open the highways of knowledge -- new highways of knowledge. > >This country needs a national goal for broadband technology, for the spread of broadband technology. We ought to have a universal, affordable access for broadband technology by the year 2007, and then we ought to make sure as soon as possible thereafter, consumers have got plenty of choices when it comes to purchasing the broadband carrier. See, the more choices there are, the more the price will go down. And the more the price goes down, the more users there will be. And the more users there will be, the more likely it is America will stay on the competitive edge of world trade. > >The more users there are, the more likely it is people will be able to have interesting new ways to receive doctors' advices in the home. The more affordable broadband technology is, the more innovative we can be with education. It's important that we stay on the cutting edge of technological change, and one way to do so is to have a bold plan for broadband. > > ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:10338] Re: May QST editorial
by Tom Frenaye 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

At 10:35 AM 3/26/2004, Joel Harrison wrote [to K1ZZ]: >Don't misunderstand my comment - it is a very good editorial. I especially liked the comment about the drunken neighbor! Actually, I think the drunken neighbor [watching porn] comment is not appropriate. I sent a private message to Dave about it earlier today. It "feels good" to read it and to understand it as something special since Dave doesn't often write like that. But, it is more like a private comment, not one for public consumption. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:10337] Re: BPL and Bush
by Joel Harrison 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

[ARRL-ODV:10332] BPL and BushI watched the speech live on TV. That's pretty much to the T what he said, except that he did specifically mention the need to expand the cable and phone lines to bring this about. He did not say anything about BPL, although I sure thought he was heading that way. Anywho, the point was clear, at least in my mind, that his position and the one FCC is marching to is that we need broadband access more than anything in this country, and if that comes at the expense of something else, then apply the Russian phrase "tuff shitzky". 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 2:26 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10336] Re: BPL and Bush Here is the relevant excerpt of the speech from the transcript on the White House Web site. This gives us a hook to encourage members to do something that at least one member has been urging us to do: write to the President about the BPL interference issue. Dave K1ZZ I want to talk about one other thing we've got to do to make sure this is a good place for people to realize their dreams and start a business and get well educated, is we've got to make sure this country is on the leading end of broadband technology. You see, new ideas and new businesses and new ways to educate people in Farmington, New Mexico are going to occur when we're able to get information flowing across cables and telephone lines in a fast way. That's what broadband technology is. It means we'll open the highways of knowledge -- new highways of knowledge. This country needs a national goal for broadband technology, for the spread of broadband technology. We ought to have a universal, affordable access for broadband technology by the year 2007, and then we ought to make sure as soon as possible thereafter, consumers have got plenty of choices when it comes to purchasing the broadband carrier. See, the more choices there are, the more the price will go down. And the more the price goes down, the more users there will be. And the more users there will be, the more likely it is America will stay on the competitive edge of world trade. The more users there are, the more likely it is people will be able to have interesting new ways to receive doctors' advices in the home. The more affordable broadband technology is, the more innovative we can be with education. It's important that we stay on the cutting edge of technological change, and one way to do so is to have a bold plan for broadband.

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[ARRL-ODV:10336] Re: BPL and Bush
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

Here is the relevant excerpt of the speech from the transcript on the White House Web site. This gives us a hook to encourage members to do something that at least one member has been urging us to do: write to the President about the BPL interference issue. Dave K1ZZ I want to talk about one other thing we've got to do to make sure this is a good place for people to realize their dreams and start a business and get well educated, is we've got to make sure this country is on the leading end of broadband technology. You see, new ideas and new businesses and new ways to educate people in Farmington, New Mexico are going to occur when we're able to get information flowing across cables and telephone lines in a fast way. That's what broadband technology is. It means we'll open the highways of knowledge -- new highways of knowledge. This country needs a national goal for broadband technology, for the spread of broadband technology. We ought to have a universal, affordable access for broadband technology by the year 2007, and then we ought to make sure as soon as possible thereafter, consumers have got plenty of choices when it comes to purchasing the broadband carrier. See, the more choices there are, the more the price will go down. And the more the price goes down, the more users there will be. And the more users there will be, the more likely it is America will stay on the competitive edge of world trade. The more users there are, the more likely it is people will be able to have interesting new ways to receive doctors' advices in the home. The more affordable broadband technology is, the more innovative we can be with education. It's important that we stay on the cutting edge of technological change, and one way to do so is to have a bold plan for broadband.

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[ARRL-ODV:10335] Re: May QST editorial
by James Weaver 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

Dave, You are correct, of course, regarding "released to the members." I inadvertently overstated this point. My fault. I apologize for the misstatement. Going from this point of agreement I have to admit that I discarded the draft of the "kit" after having read through it. This doubtlessly was a foolish thing to do, but it was done because I understood from the wording of Rick's motion (as it was passed) that Directors, Vice Directors and Section Managers would be given the completed materials no later than March 1. If the provisions of this motion have indeed been met, I'd like to receive the completed kit. If these provisions have not been met, please resend the draft to me. If the provisions of the motion have not been met, can you please advise me when this will occur? Tnx, 73, Jim W. AMATEUR RADIO: The only fail-safe communications system in the world. ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio is! Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040-9660, Tel. 513-459-0142, E-mail <mailto:k8je@arrl.org> k8je(a)arrl.org

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