March 2004 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:10364] Re: Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:09:08 -0500
by Huntington Howard-CADV02 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

Yes, it was from Tom sent Monday 2:57 AM CST. It looks like spam and it was sent to everyone. Howie, K9KM An excerpt: As a former Section Manager and a Life Member I have felt betrayed by ARRL actions, propopsals and responses for several years now. It just keeps getting worse! Thomas I. Geiger, W2KVA/6 retired ARRL Section Manager -----Original Message----- From: Art Goddard [mailto:w6xd@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:42 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10362] Re: Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:09:08 -0500 I have no idea. Why do you think this is Tom? 73, Art ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ" <dsumner(a)arrl.org> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 4:09 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10361] Re: Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:09:08 -0500 Sounds like Tom Geiger, W2KVA. I'm sorry to say that I don't rememebr what originally set Tom off. Perhaps Art remembers. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Weaver, Jim K8JE (DIR, GL) Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:17 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10360] Re: Fwd: A GREAT READ I wonder how Bobby Burns would have reacted to the following statement I recently received indirectly? It was part of a much larger letter from a still-current, non-GLD member. Is there a some sort of legitimate basis the writer's feelings? Can all of the similar feelings toward us be dismissed as being totally off base? "As a former Section Manager and a Life Member I have felt betrayed by ARRL actions, propopsals and responses for several years now. It just keeps getting worse!" I suspect Bobby B might have said something such as The Best Laid Plans of Mouse and Man Oft-time go awry." (OK, one of you Burns scholars, give me the proper quote, please.) 'tis a puzzlement even outside of Siam and to people lesser than kings. Jim W. AMATEUR RADIO: The only fail-safe communications system in the world. ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio is! Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040-9660, Tel. 513-459-0142, E-mail k8je(a)arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:10363] Re: Update on Barry
by Walton Stinson 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

Barry, Good to see you back in the saddle. Hope you are feeling better. Wishing you a full recover, Walt _____ From: Shelley, Barry, N1VXY [mailto:bshelley@arrl.org] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:32 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10347] Re: Update on Barry Jim: David correctly understood my words. It was "atrial flutter". They were able to overcome it by a small electric shock which put my heart beating in rhythym again. But, as you point out, I'm taking several medications at the moment. There was some damage to the heart and it will be a while before we know how much (hopefully all!) of the function will return. I want to thank everyone for their thoughts and wishes. I will be checking e-mail this week but the doctor has said I can't be in the office for at least this week. I'll be seeing him on Monday (4/5/04) and we'll see where it goes from there. 73, Barry, N1VXY -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Sent: Thu 3/25/2004 10:25 PM To: arrl-odv Cc: Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10299] Re: Update on Barry No doubt you're right, Jim. I repeated what I thought Barry told me, but might well have gotten it wrong. Medical terms aren't my strong suit. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Weaver, Jim K8JE (DIR, GL) Sent: Fri 3/26/2004 1:16 AM To: arrl-odv Cc: Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10297] Re: Update on Barry Great news on Barry. I question if his problem was "arterial" flutter and not "atrial" flutter. The atria are the two chambers at the top of the heart through which blood enters the heart and goes on to the ventricles which are the main pumping units of the heart. The ventricles provide the action that forces the blood through the body. Atrial flutter would be non-rhythmic or arrhythmic beating of the atria which would have little value in pushing the blood down into the ventricles. Depending upon the precise situation, atrial flutter or fibrillation is often treated with drugs that prevent the electrical impulse from the atria from going into the ventricles to disrupt the entire beating of the heart. Dave, please pass my good wishes to Barry. It sounds as though he should be up and around very soon. Jim W. AMATEUR RADIO: The only fail-safe communications system in the world. ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio is! Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040-9660, Tel. 513-459-0142, E-mail <mailto:k8je@arrl.org> k8je(a)arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:10362] Re: Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:09:08 -0500
by Art Goddard 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

I have no idea. Why do you think this is Tom? 73, Art ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ" <dsumner(a)arrl.org> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 4:09 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10361] Re: Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:09:08 -0500 Sounds like Tom Geiger, W2KVA. I'm sorry to say that I don't rememebr what originally set Tom off. Perhaps Art remembers. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Weaver, Jim K8JE (DIR, GL) Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:17 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10360] Re: Fwd: A GREAT READ I wonder how Bobby Burns would have reacted to the following statement I recently received indirectly? It was part of a much larger letter from a still-current, non-GLD member. Is there a some sort of legitimate basis the writer's feelings? Can all of the similar feelings toward us be dismissed as being totally off base? "As a former Section Manager and a Life Member I have felt betrayed by ARRL actions, propopsals and responses for several years now. It just keeps getting worse!" I suspect Bobby B might have said something such as The Best Laid Plans of Mouse and Man Oft-time go awry." (OK, one of you Burns scholars, give me the proper quote, please.) 'tis a puzzlement even outside of Siam and to people lesser than kings. Jim W. AMATEUR RADIO: The only fail-safe communications system in the world. ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio is! Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040-9660, Tel. 513-459-0142, E-mail k8je(a)arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:10361] Re:
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

Sounds like Tom Geiger, W2KVA. I'm sorry to say that I don't rememebr what originally set Tom off. Perhaps Art remembers. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Weaver, Jim K8JE (DIR, GL) Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:17 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10360] Re: Fwd: A GREAT READ I wonder how Bobby Burns would have reacted to the following statement I recently received indirectly? It was part of a much larger letter from a still-current, non-GLD member. Is there a some sort of legitimate basis the writer's feelings? Can all of the similar feelings toward us be dismissed as being totally off base? "As a former Section Manager and a Life Member I have felt betrayed by ARRL actions, propopsals and responses for several years now. It just keeps getting worse!" I suspect Bobby B might have said something such as The Best Laid Plans of Mouse and Man Oft-time go awry." (OK, one of you Burns scholars, give me the proper quote, please.) 'tis a puzzlement even outside of Siam and to people lesser than kings. Jim W. AMATEUR RADIO: The only fail-safe communications system in the world. ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio is! Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040-9660, Tel. 513-459-0142, E-mail k8je(a)arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:10360] Re: Fwd: A GREAT READ
by James Weaver 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

I wonder how Bobby Burns would have reacted to the following statement I recently received indirectly? It was part of a much larger letter from a still-current, non-GLD member. Is there a some sort of legitimate basis the writer's feelings? Can all of the similar feelings toward us be dismissed as being totally off base? "As a former Section Manager and a Life Member I have felt betrayed by ARRL actions, propopsals and responses for several years now. It just keeps getting worse!" I suspect Bobby B might have said something such as The Best Laid Plans of Mouse and Man Oft-time go awry." (OK, one of you Burns scholars, give me the proper quote, please.) 'tis a puzzlement even outside of Siam and to people lesser than kings. Jim W. AMATEUR RADIO: The only fail-safe communications system in the world. ARRL: The reason Amateur Radio is! Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division ARRL 5065 Bethany Rd., Mason, OH 45040-9660, Tel. 513-459-0142, E-mail k8je(a)arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:10359] Re: Fwd: A GREAT READ
by Art Goddard 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

Aye, twas Bobby Burns who said that! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Huntington Howard-CADV02" <Howard.Huntington(a)motorola.com> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:54 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10358] Re: Fwd: A GREAT READ > I can't remember who wrote this line, but I remember it well, at least close that is: > > "Oh wud someone the giftie gie us, to see ourselves as ithers see us." > > Howie, K9KM > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kay Craigie [mailto:wt3p@comcast.net] > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:45 PM > To: arrl-odv > Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10330] Re: Fwd: A GREAT READ > > > Rich wrote, "The American Radio Relay League's membership may have > fallen sharply in the past decade, but that has more to do with how the > organization is perceived by many hams than with the number or licensed > or even active hams." > > He could have left that out. It's a cheap shot. However, think of the > letter as tossing one small rock at the ARRL but aiming an artillery > barrage at the WSJ's reportage. > > Dennis Silage K3DS, professor of electrical and computer engineering at > Temple University, wrote the WSJ to set them straight on the idea that > ham radio is all old-timey stuff practiced by aging kooks. Among his > comments: "I use amateur radio to teach 'cutting edge' communication > technology to undergraduate electrical and computer engineers. Last > year's capstone senior project (by a group of female undergraduates) was > a digital voice compression system for amateur radio." Dennis serves on > our HSMM working group, I believe. > > I also saw a cc: of an e-mail from Ed Hare to a ham who didn't like the > article, indicating that the reporter was indeed given a "comprehensive > overview" of ham radio today. Apparently the reporter selected only the > information that made hams seem like the Amishmen of the technological > world. Read over your e-mails from the past six months and tell me we > don't have some of that in the family! The guy wasn't lying ... he just > wasn't telling the truth. I guess when you work for the big media, you > may learn how to do that. > > 73 - Kay N3KN > >

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[ARRL-ODV:10358] Re: Fwd: A GREAT READ
by Huntington Howard-CADV02 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

I can't remember who wrote this line, but I remember it well, at least close that is: "Oh wud someone the giftie gie us, to see ourselves as ithers see us." Howie, K9KM -----Original Message----- From: Kay Craigie [mailto:wt3p@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:45 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10330] Re: Fwd: A GREAT READ Rich wrote, "The American Radio Relay League's membership may have fallen sharply in the past decade, but that has more to do with how the organization is perceived by many hams than with the number or licensed or even active hams." He could have left that out. It's a cheap shot. However, think of the letter as tossing one small rock at the ARRL but aiming an artillery barrage at the WSJ's reportage. Dennis Silage K3DS, professor of electrical and computer engineering at Temple University, wrote the WSJ to set them straight on the idea that ham radio is all old-timey stuff practiced by aging kooks. Among his comments: "I use amateur radio to teach 'cutting edge' communication technology to undergraduate electrical and computer engineers. Last year's capstone senior project (by a group of female undergraduates) was a digital voice compression system for amateur radio." Dennis serves on our HSMM working group, I believe. I also saw a cc: of an e-mail from Ed Hare to a ham who didn't like the article, indicating that the reporter was indeed given a "comprehensive overview" of ham radio today. Apparently the reporter selected only the information that made hams seem like the Amishmen of the technological world. Read over your e-mails from the past six months and tell me we don't have some of that in the family! The guy wasn't lying ... he just wasn't telling the truth. I guess when you work for the big media, you may learn how to do that. 73 - Kay N3KN

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[ARRL-ODV:10357] Re: Fwd: [PR:3661] 3657] FEMA's filed comments on BPL
by W3KD＠aol.com 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

In a message dated 3/28/2004 6:07:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, W5JBP(a)aol.com writes: > > So would I. Seems a lot of pressure being put on the NTIA by someone "very" > high up. > > Jim > > Well, it sure looks that way. When Paul Rinaldo and I made our BPL presentation to the IRAC at NTIA, I had a long chat afterward with the FEMA rep to the IRAC. He said that he would "love to be able to tell me what really happened" but that I could guess. I told him it looked to me as though FCC put some pressure on FEMA to back off on the first letter. He said emphatically that didn't happen (almost too emphatically) but I tried another route. I said it also looked as though the author of the first article was at the Mt. Weather, Virginia FEMA office (which handles RACES and a lot of HF issues) and that it probably was released before it was coordinated with the FEMA office in Washington, which then issued the crawfish letter. He said that was exactly what happened. Maybe, maybe not..... Chris

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[ARRL-ODV:10356] BPL
by Dick Mondro 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

I had an opportunity to listen to Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell, W6OBB this morning and he had quite a few callers that were asking about BPL and Jim Haynies appearance on his show last week. Art spoke on the subject for quite a while indicating that SWL's would also be affected as well as governmental agencies and felt it was a very bad move. A strong point was made that BPL is being marketed as a broadband service for people in the country but it's target is the big cities, where the largest population lives. He is very outspoken on this subject, although I see he is not a League member. It is good to have a strong media voice in our corner. Dick Mondro, W8FQT --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.639 / Virus Database: 408 - Release Date: 3/22/2004

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[ARRL-ODV:10355] Brief Chicago Area Hamfest Report
by dick＠pobox.com 29 Mar '04

29 Mar '04

28 MAR, 2004 - 1800 CST The hot button issue at the hamfest I attended this morning in Grayslake, Illinois was not license restructuring... it's BPL. A lot of hams are really getting steamed at the FCC and if they know the relationship, the White House. The hamfest turnout was about 500, but we sold ten new memberships and one renewal (after many year's absence from the fold) this morning. 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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