February 2004 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:10138] Re: FCC Open Agenda Meeting
by Joel Harrison 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

I really don't see any difference at this point either, Wade. The Commission clearly is aware of and acknowledges the interference potential as noted by their comments, and so is OET. As to how it will actually come down in what is adopted from the NPRM and how it will work in reality is still unknown. So, in the meantime, all we can project is how they currently react. Chris may ring in with other comments as well as Dave, however Dave will be leaving first thing in the morning for the IARU Region III conference in Taipei and I don't know what his email access situation will be. Jim is not happy, to say the least. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: walstrom(a)mchsi.com [mailto:walstrom@mchsi.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 3:08 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10137] Re: FCC Open Agenda Meeting Very interesting! How will mitigating BPL interference problems in the future differ from how the power line operators "mitigate" power line noise interference problems today? >From a practical standpoint, I see little difference. In other words, it could take years to get a BPL operator's attention and more years of being sandbagged by them before the problem is addressed, if ever. 73, Wade W0EJ ,

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[ARRL-ODV:10137] Re: FCC Open Agenda Meeting
by walstrom＠mchsi.com 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

Very interesting! How will mitigating BPL interference problems in the future differ from how the power line operators "mitigate" power line noise interference problems today? >From a practical standpoint, I see little difference. In other words, it could take years to get a BPL operator's attention and more years of being sandbagged by them before the problem is addressed, if ever. 73, Wade W0EJ > Greetings from D.C., > > President Haynie wanted the following sent to advise you of what occurred at > the FCCs Open Agenda Meeting today. > > The Commission unanimously voted to issue an NPRM to authorize BPL. Anh > Wride of FCCs OET presented the NPRM and identified the following four > items included in it: > > 1. Continues current Part 15 emission limits for unlicensed carrier current > systems. > > 2. Requires BPL systems to use adaptive technologies including the reduction > of power dynamically and the ability to include or exclude certain > frequencies. > > 3. BPL has notification requirements the same as power line carrier > requirements and including a database accessible by the public that will > include: > a. Location of BPL system > b. Type of modulation > c. Frequency bands in use > d. Licensed operator interfered with would contact the BPL provider and > the provider must make adjustments to mitigate the interference. > > 4. Guidelines for repeatable measurements of BPL emissions. > > The NPRM also recognizes the concerns of current licensed radio operators > and reaffirmed that licensed services must be protected. > > Some of the comments made by the Commissioners were as follows, which were > addressed by Ed Thomas, Chief of FCC OET: > > Abernathy Asked for an example of an interference situation and how it > would be addressed under the NPRM proposed rules. Thomas said if > interference is detected, the BPL system would be registered and the > provider would be contacted and have responsibility and must mitigate the > interference under all conditions. Technology has capability to notch out > specific freq > > Kopp Supports the technical side, but believed we (FCC) are avoiding very > important parts of the interference issue. > > Martin Sensitive to interference concerns raised by FEMAbut otherwise was > very supportive of it. > > Adelstein have to resolve interference issues before we move on but have > to be mindful of unsupported interference concerns and identify their > validity. > > Powell Commission seeking more solutions to Broadband access. Thinks this > technology is exciting has potential to be broadband hope for rural > America. The Commission continues to drive to empower the technology. We > (FCC) have heard concerns about interference and will work hard on having > our engineering group address those concerns. > > 73 Jim/Joel/Dave/Chris > >

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[ARRL-ODV:10136] FCC Open Agenda Meeting
by Joel Harrison 12 Feb '04

12 Feb '04

Greetings from D.C., President Haynie wanted the following sent to advise you of what occurred at the FCCs Open Agenda Meeting today. The Commission unanimously voted to issue an NPRM to authorize BPL. Anh Wride of FCCs OET presented the NPRM and identified the following four items included in it: 1. Continues current Part 15 emission limits for unlicensed carrier current systems. 2. Requires BPL systems to use adaptive technologies including the reduction of power dynamically and the ability to include or exclude certain frequencies. 3. BPL has notification requirements the same as power line carrier requirements and including a database accessible by the public that will include: a. Location of BPL system b. Type of modulation c. Frequency bands in use d. Licensed operator interfered with would contact the BPL provider and the provider must make adjustments to mitigate the interference. 4. Guidelines for repeatable measurements of BPL emissions. The NPRM also recognizes the concerns of current licensed radio operators and reaffirmed that licensed services must be protected. Some of the comments made by the Commissioners were as follows, which were addressed by Ed Thomas, Chief of FCC OET: Abernathy Asked for an example of an interference situation and how it would be addressed under the NPRM proposed rules. Thomas said if interference is detected, the BPL system would be registered and the provider would be contacted and have responsibility and must mitigate the interference under all conditions. Technology has capability to notch out specific freq Kopp Supports the technical side, but believed we (FCC) are avoiding very important parts of the interference issue. Martin Sensitive to interference concerns raised by FEMAbut otherwise was very supportive of it. Adelstein have to resolve interference issues before we move on but have to be mindful of unsupported interference concerns and identify their validity. Powell Commission seeking more solutions to Broadband access. Thinks this technology is exciting has potential to be broadband hope for rural America. The Commission continues to drive to empower the technology. We (FCC) have heard concerns about interference and will work hard on having our engineering group address those concerns. 73 Jim/Joel/Dave/Chris

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[ARRL-ODV:10135] Re: Ward's Done It Again
by dick＠pobox.com 11 Feb '04

11 Feb '04

11 FEB, 2004 - 1135 CST Hello Kay... I was going to delay reading the current Contest Rate Sheet in my inbox until later today. After seeing your comments here, I went right to it and I whole-heartedly agree with you. I wonder if Ward could be talked into enlarging his theme for use as a QST editorial or Op Ed piece? 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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[ARRL-ODV:10134] Ward's done it again
by Kay Craigie 11 Feb '04

11 Feb '04

I'm more convinced than ever that Ward Silver N0AX writes the best perspective pieces about ham radio of anybody whose callsign isn't K1ZZ. If you don't subscribe to the ARRL Contest Rate Sheet, please get the 11 February 2004 issue and read Ward's editorial. Great stuff. 73 - Kay N3KN

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[ARRL-ODV:10133] W6QYT SK
by Frank Fallon - N2FF 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

I had some trouble sending this to the reflector. Perhaps you have already seen this: The Sunday New York Times ran an obit on page 35 for Oswald Villard, Jr., W6QYT, who until 2001 was an ARRL member. He passed away in a nursing home. According to the piece: Dr. Villard, an electronics engineer, parlayed his youthful interest in radio into advanced research with military and other uses, including "stealth" technology to stop radar from bouncing back from aircraft, so planes are nearly invisible to it." As a student at Stanford he was part of the team that developed the klystron and at Harvard during WWII at the Radio Research Laboratory he worked on pioneering studies of radar jamming. He wrote over 60 technical papers and held six patents. When he was twelve the family chauffeur gave him a radio put together from a kit. His greatest contribution was leading research that vastly expanded the range of high frequency radar signals by bouncing them off the ionosphere. Frank Fallon........ N2FF

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[ARRL-ODV:10132] Re: W6QYT SK
by Hobart, Mary K1MMH 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

Dave, Do you happen to know his sons' names? I went to school with a Dimitri Villard in Washington. I wonder if there is any relation. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 9:07 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10131] Re: W6QYT SK We ran an extensive obit on Mike Villard a couple of weeks ago: http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2004/01/27/1/?nc=1 Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Fallon, Frank (Dir, Hudson) Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 9:04 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10130] W6QYT SK The Sunday New York Times ran an obit on page 35 for Oswald Villard, Jr., W6QYT, who until 2001 was an ARRL member. He passed away in a nursing home. According to the piece: Dr. Villard, an electronics engineer, parlayed his youthful interest in radio into advanced research with military and other uses, including "stealth" technology to stop radar from bouncing back from aircraft, so planes are nearly invisible to it." As a student at Stanford he was part of the team that developed the klystron and at Harvard during WWII at the Radio Research Laboratory he worked on pioneering studies of radar jamming. He wrote over 60 technical papers and held six patents. When he was twelve the family chauffeur gave him a radio put together from a kit. His greatest contribution was leading research that vastly expanded the range of high frequency radar signals by bouncing them off the ionosphere. Frank Fallon........ N2FF

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[ARRL-ODV:10131] Re: W6QYT SK
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

We ran an extensive obit on Mike Villard a couple of weeks ago: http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2004/01/27/1/?nc=1 Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Fallon, Frank (Dir, Hudson) Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 9:04 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:10130] W6QYT SK The Sunday New York Times ran an obit on page 35 for Oswald Villard, Jr., W6QYT, who until 2001 was an ARRL member. He passed away in a nursing home. According to the piece: Dr. Villard, an electronics engineer, parlayed his youthful interest in radio into advanced research with military and other uses, including "stealth" technology to stop radar from bouncing back from aircraft, so planes are nearly invisible to it." As a student at Stanford he was part of the team that developed the klystron and at Harvard during WWII at the Radio Research Laboratory he worked on pioneering studies of radar jamming. He wrote over 60 technical papers and held six patents. When he was twelve the family chauffeur gave him a radio put together from a kit. His greatest contribution was leading research that vastly expanded the range of high frequency radar signals by bouncing them off the ionosphere. Frank Fallon........ N2FF

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[ARRL-ODV:10130] W6QYT SK
by Frank Fallon - N2FF 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

The Sunday New York Times ran an obit on page 35 for Oswald Villard, Jr., W6QYT, who until 2001 was an ARRL member. He passed away in a nursing home. According to the piece: Dr. Villard, an electronics engineer, parlayed his youthful interest in radio into advanced research with military and other uses, including "stealth" technology to stop radar from bouncing back from aircraft, so planes are nearly invisible to it." As a student at Stanford he was part of the team that developed the klystron and at Harvard during WWII at the Radio Research Laboratory he worked on pioneering studies of radar jamming. He wrote over 60 technical papers and held six patents. When he was twelve the family chauffeur gave him a radio put together from a kit. His greatest contribution was leading research that vastly expanded the range of high frequency radar signals by bouncing them off the ionosphere. Frank Fallon........ N2FF

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[ARRL-ODV:10129] FCC Feb 12th meeting live
by Tom Frenaye 07 Feb '04

07 Feb '04

The FCC's meeting where BPL is to be discussed on Feb 12th at 9:30am ET will be broadcast on the Internet: http://www.fcc.gov/realaudio/#feb12 I would not pass this URL on to others, there is a limit on how many people can view the meeting at once (200). -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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