August 2003 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:9241] Re: Vacation
by Jim Weaver 12 Aug '03

12 Aug '03

Dave, enjoy. Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division k8je(a)arrl.org - Tel. 513-459-0142 ARRL -- The reason Amateur Radio is! GREAT LAKES DIVISION CONVENTION, September 6, 2003: See http://greatlakes.arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:9239] Vacation
by Mendelsohn, Stephen A. 12 Aug '03

12 Aug '03

>> My daughter Deryn, N1UCI, is home from college for a few days so I'm taking some time off. >> I am home now and will return to the office August 21. I will be out again August 26-29. Will we have the pleasure of your company on Saturday, August 23rd for the wedding? -73- Steve, W2ML Steve Mendelsohn Senior Audio/Video Systems Design Engineer ABC Television Network (W) (212) 456-4983 (PGR) (877) 537-2977 (C) (201) 981-9922

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[ARRL-ODV:9238] Vacation
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 12 Aug '03

12 Aug '03

My daughter Deryn, N1UCI, is home from college for a few days so I'm taking some time off. I am home now and will return to the office August 21. I will be out again August 26-29. The staff can reach me by cell phone and I will be checking email occasionally. 73, Dave K1ZZ

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[ARRL-ODV:9237] Re: Ham Radio PAC
by dick＠pobox.com 12 Aug '03

12 Aug '03

11 AUG, 2003 - 2115 CDT I agree that we should look very closely and carefully into this idea. We have to have weapons appropriate to the fight. One does not get into a gun fight armed only with a knife. It may prove to not be workable. But I will sleep better knowing we thoroughly checked out the pros and cons. 73 - Dick, W9GIG

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[ARRL-ODV:9236] Re: Ham Radio PAC?
by Tom Frenaye 12 Aug '03

12 Aug '03

At 06:44 PM 8/11/2003 -0400, K8JE wrote: >Why NOT look into this? I agree with Jim W and Jim H on this, I think we should look into it closely and see if there is a way to make it happen. Whoever gets there "first" would have a open playing field. I'd hate to see a CWPAC or any PAC organized to represent Amateur Radio that does not closely align with ARRL goals. Sure it can't be controlled by ARRL, but it can be organized and run by former ARRL Board members (maybe even Vice Directors...). They would certainly have the same interests in mind that we do. As the ARPAC or ARRLPAC is organized, it can even be structured to say that the goal is to influence legislation as described in the Legislative Positions of the American Radio Relay League ( http://www.arrl.org/govrelations/ ). I hope it does take a little money away from ARRL fund raising. I'd gladly budget $25k of ARRL money for direct political influence, and we can't do it today. So if a PAC can raise $25k I think it'd be money that would be used well and do a lot more good than some things we spend $25k on today... Maybe we can get some research on this done in the next few months so we can do some serious study in advance of the January meeting. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:9235] Re: Ham Radio PAC?
by W5JBP＠aol.com 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

In a message dated 08/11/2003 5:16:04 PM Central Daylight Time, bfuller(a)gremlan.org writes: > A separate 501(c)(4) would have to be created. That is exactly what I was talking about. Jim Haynie, W5JBP

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[ARRL-ODV:9234] Re: Ham Radio PAC?
by Jim Weaver 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

I'm, too, am in "Dave's court," but I think it is time to serve -- maybe, just maybe, an ace. I think we ought to explore very thoroughly what we can, cannot, should and should not do. I doubt if there is anyone of us in the total Board Family who wants to jeopardize our 501c3 status. I fought to get one for a local group I organized and I certainly do not want to lose this status for anyone. But, these are times that suggest -- actually, demand -- that we roll up our figurative sleeves (these are sleeves made or very substantial cloth) and find out how we can fight for our needs and survival, not better, but best. We cannot do this until we determine what we can, cannot, should and should not do. Why NOT look into this? Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division k8je(a)arrl.org - Tel. 513-459-0142 ARRL -- The reason Amateur Radio is! GREAT LAKES DIVISION CONVENTION, September 6, 2003: See http://greatlakes.arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:9233] Re: Ham Radio PAC?
by Bernard E. Fuller 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

I'm in Dave's court on this one. We have to be very, very careful not to knee-jerk this one!!! Bernie-N3EFN -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:54 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9229] Re: Ham Radio PAC? The conclusion of our earlier investigation was that as a 501(c)(3) the ARRL could not organize a PAC. A separate 501(c)(4) would have to be created. The ARRL could not support either the 501(c)(4) or the PAC, either financially or with in-kind services. Dave K1ZZ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release Date: 8/1/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release Date: 8/1/03

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[ARRL-ODV:9232] Re: Ham Radio PAC?
by W5JBP＠aol.com 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

I have not had a chance to discuss the PAC with you very much as of late, but it IS a doable deal. Many associations such as ours has a political action committee and in these days and times it is more important that ever. Over the years, I made a number of friends on the hill and one day I just came out and ask how a congressman or senator viewed visits like ours. The staff person said that it was quite simple. If we had not been in before, but had requested an appointment, two folders were checked, the first was: "Have they donated to the campaign?" and the second was how much influence do they have. Well, we do pretty good on the second but bat "zero" on the first. I have received letters from capitol hill offices, especially after a trip, soliciting campaign funds. Most are quite small, $250.00 is about average. The largest was $1,000, but it involved the chance to rub elbows with a number of senators at a game lodge. I understand Dave Sumner's hesitancy as he nor any of us want to jeopardize our present 501(c)3 designation. But as I said before, it is a doable thing, and I am glad that you are talking about it. Do you want to take it a step further? 73 Jim Haynie, W5JBP

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[ARRL-ODV:9231] PAC or NO PAC, THIS IS THE QUESTION
by Jim Weaver 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

But . . . even if ARRL can not form a PAC, there is nothing preventing us from coordinating our advocacy thoroughly with our members. If I had my choice between operating through a PAC that has no member coordination for follow-up vs. having coordinated member advocacy action with no PAC I'd clearly take the latter Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division k8je(a)arrl.org - Tel. 513-459-0142 ARRL -- The reason Amateur Radio is! GREAT LAKES DIVISION CONVENTION, September 6, 2003: See http://greatlakes.arrl.org

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