July 2003 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:9175] Fwd: Greetings from BA4ED, Shanghai, China
by W5JBP＠aol.com 27 Jul '03

27 Jul '03

One would have never thought that "Amateur Radio Today" would get such play. Jim Haynie

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[ARRL-ODV:9174] VRC Report
by Jim Weaver 26 Jul '03

26 Jul '03

Official or not, the report IS public. Any official release of it at this time would do nothing more than to make readers who haven't seen it in its "unofficial" venues are as up-to-date as others. Why not release it if we haven't already? Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division k8je(a)arrl.org - Tel. 513-459-0142 ARRL -- The reason Amateur Radio is! GREAT LAKES DIVISION CONVENTION, September 6, 2003: See http://greatlakes.arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:9173] Re: Wishful Dreaming?
by Jim Weaver 26 Jul '03

26 Jul '03

Powell? Wasn't he a screen actor from the 50s or so? Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division k8je(a)arrl.org - Tel. 513-459-0142 ARRL -- The reason Amateur Radio is! GREAT LAKES DIVISION CONVENTION, September 6, 2003: See http://greatlakes.arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:9172] Re: Division and Section emails
by Frank Fallon - N2FF 26 Jul '03

26 Jul '03

Jim, Exactly. I thought it was agreed that we would send the opt out message along with the first bulletin sent. I believe that we agreed that we did not want folks to get a cold message and to then opt out before they ever saw what they were getting for free. As our great Vice President, Fried Hein, has said too many times, "The devil is in the details." Frank...N2FF..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Weaver" <K8JE(a)arrl.org> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 1:02 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9170] Re: Division and Section emails > Frank, > > I agree with you that "we" were going to advise the "not opted in" > members of the change in policy on Director/SM E-mail; however, it was > equally my understanding (wrong?) that several of us wanted this > announcement to be part of the first message we sent out, not ahead of > this. I definitely think the members should be told what has happened > and why, but I don't think we ought to "invite" them to opt out by > sending a cold message to them saying they were added and telling them > how to opt out before they see what it is we send out. > > 73, > > Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division > k8je(a)arrl.org - Tel. 513-459-0142 > > ARRL -- The reason Amateur Radio is! > > GREAT LAKES DIVISION CONVENTION, September 6, 2003: See > http://greatlakes.arrl.org > > >

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[ARRL-ODV:9171] Re: Wishful Dreaming?
by Greg Milnes 26 Jul '03

26 Jul '03

Powell has clearly missed the partnership boat with a very important constituency...us. 73/Greg W7OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: W3KD(a)aol.com To: arrl-odv Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 5:48 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9154] Re: Wishful Dreaming? In a message dated 7/24/2003 7:46:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, w7oz(a)comcast.net writes: I read in the Oregonian newspaper today that if Powell's FCC bill (up to 45% ownership) is voted down in Congress, he (Powell) will resign. 73/Greg W7OZ He has been looking around anyway, but the House, 400 to 20 or so, voted to reduce the cap to 35% Wednesday, so it isn't looking good for a long tenure for Mike Powell. The Post today said that he has been uniquely incompetent in coalition building and other handy political tools. chris

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[ARRL-ODV:9170] Re: Division and Section emails
by Jim Weaver 26 Jul '03

26 Jul '03

Frank, I agree with you that "we" were going to advise the "not opted in" members of the change in policy on Director/SM E-mail; however, it was equally my understanding (wrong?) that several of us wanted this announcement to be part of the first message we sent out, not ahead of this. I definitely think the members should be told what has happened and why, but I don't think we ought to "invite" them to opt out by sending a cold message to them saying they were added and telling them how to opt out before they see what it is we send out. 73, Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division k8je(a)arrl.org - Tel. 513-459-0142 ARRL -- The reason Amateur Radio is! GREAT LAKES DIVISION CONVENTION, September 6, 2003: See http://greatlakes.arrl.org

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[ARRL-ODV:9169] 2003 July Board Minutes
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 25 Jul '03

25 Jul '03

Here are the official Minutes. Thanks to everyone who reviewed them and gave me feedback. 73, Dave K1ZZ <<2003 July Board Minutes.doc>>

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[ARRL-ODV:9168] Re: Division and Section emails
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 25 Jul '03

25 Jul '03

Yes, Frank. But they still have the option to uncheck the box. We can't force someone to receive email that they don't want. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Fallon, Frank (Dir, Hudson) Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 4:54 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9167] Re: Division and Section emails Dave, Re: As for members already signed up for Members-only, some of them would regard it as a breach of trust on our part if we were to change the privacy policy, without telling them, in a way that affects what reaches their inboxes. It was my understanding that staff was going to send them a notice of the change in policy but that EVERYONE would begin to receive the Director and SM bulletins just as they receive QST. I thought we were agreed that we would inform them. I am getting a little punchy trying to follow the thread here and I am not at all sure we are on the same page. Frank.....N2FF......

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[ARRL-ODV:9167] Re: Division and Section emails
by Frank Fallon - N2FF 25 Jul '03

25 Jul '03

Dave, Re: As for members already signed up for Members-only, some of them would regard it as a breach of trust on our part if we were to change the privacy policy, without telling them, in a way that affects what reaches their inboxes. It was my understanding that staff was going to send them a notice of the change in policy but that EVERYONE would begin to receive the Director and SM bulletins just as they receive QST. I thought we were agreed that we would inform them. I am getting a little punchy trying to follow the thread here and I am not at all sure we are on the same page. Frank.....N2FF......

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[ARRL-ODV:9166] Re: Division and Section emails
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 25 Jul '03

25 Jul '03

Jim, I'm not sure what you mean by "new" members. Effective now, someone signing up for Members-only access for the first time will have the box for receiving "News and information from your Division Director and Section Manager" checked for them. They will have to uncheck it in order not to receive these kinds of messages. We will not be sending them anything inviting them to uncheck it. As for members already signed up for Members-only, some of them would regard it as a breach of trust on our part if we were to change the privacy policy, without telling them, in a way that affects what reaches their inboxes. 73, Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Weaver, Jim K8JE (DIR, GL) Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 4:48 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:9144] Re: Division and Section emails Ladies and gentlemen: As I mentioned earlier today to Mark, I thought the directors preferred we not send an opt-out notice to "new" members to the DIR/SM E-mail lists BEFORE they have seen what we send them and know from what they are opting-out. If I am correct, now seems to be the time to say so before these "new" ones are "invited" to opt out from something for which we have just opted them in. I realize this aspect of our discussion was not included in the motion, but it part of the "legislative history" as I remember it. For this matter, I don't recall that the motion mandated Mark and company to send a special opt-out invitation. Am I correct or did someone put a hallucinogen in my Diet Pepsi? Jim Weaver, K8JE, Director, Great Lakes Division k8je(a)arrl.org - Tel. 513-459-0142 ARRL -- The reason Amateur Radio is! GREAT LAKES DIVISION CONVENTION, September 6, 2003: See http://greatlakes.arrl.org

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