August 2002 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:7653] Re: Fw: Riley Hollingsworth
by jmax＠attglobal.net 11 Aug '02

11 Aug '02

Same thing has been done for the Pacific Division Convention. All substantive costs are picked up by the convention, such as air transportation and hotel room. 73. Jim, W6CF Tom Frenaye wrote: > At 09:47 PM 8/9/2002 -0400, Wade/W0EJ wrote: > >Do we (the League) fund any of Riley's travels or do we (the taxpayers) pick up all of that bill? > > When he has come to New England to speak at the NE Div convention and the CT State Convention the two convention committees paid for his hotel/meal expenses. I think that's normal. He keeps expenses pretty low when doing the ham radio circuit... > > -- Tom > > ===== > e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ > Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:7652] Re: Fw: Riley Hollingsworth
by Tom Frenaye 10 Aug '02

10 Aug '02

At 09:47 PM 8/9/2002 -0400, Wade/W0EJ wrote: >Do we (the League) fund any of Riley's travels or do we (the taxpayers) pick up all of that bill? When he has come to New England to speak at the NE Div convention and the CT State Convention the two convention committees paid for his hotel/meal expenses. I think that's normal. He keeps expenses pretty low when doing the ham radio circuit... -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:7651] Re: Fw: Riley at Board Meeting
by Wade Walstrom 10 Aug '02

10 Aug '02

I appreciate this information. I have no problem with it, but did not want to make any incorrect statements if asked. 73, Wade W0EJ W5JBP(a)aol.com wrote: > I want to make sure that everyone is clear on Riley's travel. > > I issued an invitation for Riley to address the board on Thursday night. That travel was paid by the League. If we invite him to OUR national, again we pay for it. We have picked up expenses for a number of people that has been officially invited to a board meeting. Last year it was Bill Cross. The meeting in Dallas when we had the president of the FMRE, he paid his airline, we picked up the hotel. The same with the president of RAC. This is customary and they extend the same courtesy to us when we visit their meetings. > > As to Riley's travel to other conventions, the convention picks up the tab, not us. > > Jim Haynie, W5JBP

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[ARRL-ODV:7650] Re: Fw: Riley at Board Meeting
by W5JBP＠aol.com 10 Aug '02

10 Aug '02

I want to make sure that everyone is clear on Riley's travel. I issued an invitation for Riley to address the board on Thursday night. That travel was paid by the League. If we invite him to OUR national, again we pay for it. We have picked up expenses for a number of people that has been officially invited to a board meeting. Last year it was Bill Cross. The meeting in Dallas when we had the president of the FMRE, he paid his airline, we picked up the hotel. The same with the president of RAC. This is customary and they extend the same courtesy to us when we visit their meetings. As to Riley's travel to other conventions, the convention picks up the tab, not us. Jim Haynie, W5JBP

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[ARRL-ODV:7649] Fw: Riley at Board Meeting
by Art Goddard 10 Aug '02

10 Aug '02

Wade, here's Dave's answer to my inquiry... 73, Art ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ" <dsumner(a)arrl.org> To: "Art Goddard" <w6xd(a)attbi.com> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:33 AM Subject: RE: Riley at Board Meeting Yes. The FCC has no travel budget for such contact travel. When Riley travels to an ARRL meeting or national convention, it's at our expense. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Art Goddard [mailto:w6xd@attbi.com] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:53 PM To: David Sumner K1ZZ Subject: Riley at Board Meeting Dave, were any ARRL funds used in connection with Riley's visit to the ARRL Board meeting on July 18? Other than the meal, that is... 73, Art

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[ARRL-ODV:7648] Re: Fw: Riley Hollingsworth vs 147.435 W6NUT Repeater
by Mike Raisbeck 10 Aug '02

10 Aug '02

In many case in which members may perceive that the League pays, it's actually someone else. I'm thinking in particular of the NE Division Convention. 73, Mike K1TWF -----Original Message----- From: Wade Walstrom [mailto:walstrom@mchsi.com] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 9:48 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7647] Re: Fw: Riley Hollingsworth vs 147.435 W6NUT Repeater KB6IAT makes one statement I was curious about. Do we (the League) fund any of Riley's travels or do we (the taxpayers) pick up all of that bill? 73, Wade W0EJ Art Goddard wrote: > That makes at least four replies, then. (Tuck, we'll talk about copying > your Director off-line) Folks, it's a common practice for people, usually > flamers, to send what appears to be an individually addressed message to a > list. They are thrilled to receive a bunch of replies - and especially like > it when they get conflicting replies. > > Please do not feel obligated to reply to KB6IAT further... > > 73, Art W6XD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tuck Miller NZ6T ARRL SWD Vice Director" <nz6t(a)arrl.org> > To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:03 PM > Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7643] Re: Fw: Riley Hollingsworth vs 147.435 W6NUT > Repeater > > I did reply to him as it was addressed to me, and invited him to attend > Riley's > enforcement program on Friday nite, and ask him for himself. 73, > > Tuck > > Art Goddard wrote: > > > Folks, KB6IAT has received replies from at least 3 of you so far - it's > not > > necessary to reply further, unless you really feel you must. > > > > 73, Art W6XD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wade Walstrom" <walstrom(a)mchsi.com> > > To: <kb6iat(a)arrl.net> > > Cc: <w6xd(a)arrl.org> > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 4:22 PM > > Subject: Re: Riley Hollingsworth vs 147.435 W6NUT Repeater > > > > KB6IAT wrote: > > > > > Mr. Riley Hollingsworth is doing a poor job in regard to the 147.435 > > > W6NUT Repeater in Los Angeles. > > > > > > I, being an ARRL Member, do not appreciate the use of ARRL Funds to pay > > > the expenses of Mr. Hollingsworth to attend ARRL Functions. > > > > > > I realize that this will cause me to catch "Flack" and receive > > > "Harassment" from various sources but, I most certainly believe in > > > exercising my right of free speech. > > > > You have done that. > > > > > > > > > > > Why would I make such a statement? > > > > > > Please review my Web Page http://www.w6nut.com and listen to the > > > UN-edited recordings of the "Out of Control" 147.435 W6NUT Los Angeles > > > Repeater. There is my answer. > > > > > > RCrow kb6iat(a)arrl.net > > > > > > http://www.w6nut.com > > > > Thanks for the input. > > > > 73, > > > > Wade Walstrom W0EJ > > Director, ARRL Midwest Division > > -- > ************************************************ > Remember, Helping Others....Always Worthwhile!! > Southwestern Division Vice Director > American Radio Relay League (ARRL) > The national association for AMATEUR RADIO > Are you a member yet? If not, visit http://www.arrl.org/join.html > 2002 SWD Convention, Aug 16-18 For Registration forms, click on > http://sd2002.hamcon.net/mainpage.html?registration.html > Tuck's Personal Web Page: http://www.qsl.net/nz6t > Follow Tuck around the Division via APRS: > http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?NZ6T-9

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[ARRL-ODV:7647] Re: Fw: Riley Hollingsworth vs 147.435 W6NUT Repeater
by Wade Walstrom 10 Aug '02

10 Aug '02

KB6IAT makes one statement I was curious about. Do we (the League) fund any of Riley's travels or do we (the taxpayers) pick up all of that bill? 73, Wade W0EJ Art Goddard wrote: > That makes at least four replies, then. (Tuck, we'll talk about copying > your Director off-line) Folks, it's a common practice for people, usually > flamers, to send what appears to be an individually addressed message to a > list. They are thrilled to receive a bunch of replies - and especially like > it when they get conflicting replies. > > Please do not feel obligated to reply to KB6IAT further... > > 73, Art W6XD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tuck Miller NZ6T ARRL SWD Vice Director" <nz6t(a)arrl.org> > To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:03 PM > Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7643] Re: Fw: Riley Hollingsworth vs 147.435 W6NUT > Repeater > > I did reply to him as it was addressed to me, and invited him to attend > Riley's > enforcement program on Friday nite, and ask him for himself. 73, > > Tuck > > Art Goddard wrote: > > > Folks, KB6IAT has received replies from at least 3 of you so far - it's > not > > necessary to reply further, unless you really feel you must. > > > > 73, Art W6XD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wade Walstrom" <walstrom(a)mchsi.com> > > To: <kb6iat(a)arrl.net> > > Cc: <w6xd(a)arrl.org> > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 4:22 PM > > Subject: Re: Riley Hollingsworth vs 147.435 W6NUT Repeater > > > > KB6IAT wrote: > > > > > Mr. Riley Hollingsworth is doing a poor job in regard to the 147.435 > > > W6NUT Repeater in Los Angeles. > > > > > > I, being an ARRL Member, do not appreciate the use of ARRL Funds to pay > > > the expenses of Mr. Hollingsworth to attend ARRL Functions. > > > > > > I realize that this will cause me to catch "Flack" and receive > > > "Harassment" from various sources but, I most certainly believe in > > > exercising my right of free speech. > > > > You have done that. > > > > > > > > > > > Why would I make such a statement? > > > > > > Please review my Web Page http://www.w6nut.com and listen to the > > > UN-edited recordings of the "Out of Control" 147.435 W6NUT Los Angeles > > > Repeater. There is my answer. > > > > > > RCrow kb6iat(a)arrl.net > > > > > > http://www.w6nut.com > > > > Thanks for the input. > > > > 73, > > > > Wade Walstrom W0EJ > > Director, ARRL Midwest Division > > -- > ************************************************ > Remember, Helping Others....Always Worthwhile!! > Southwestern Division Vice Director > American Radio Relay League (ARRL) > The national association for AMATEUR RADIO > Are you a member yet? If not, visit http://www.arrl.org/join.html > 2002 SWD Convention, Aug 16-18 For Registration forms, click on > http://sd2002.hamcon.net/mainpage.html?registration.html > Tuck's Personal Web Page: http://www.qsl.net/nz6t > Follow Tuck around the Division via APRS: > http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?NZ6T-9

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[ARRL-ODV:7646] Re: Minutes on paper
by Bernard E. Fuller 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

It sounds reasonable to me. The fewer pieces of paper floating around the better from a security view. Bernie-N3EFN -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:31 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7645] Re: Minutes on paper To answer Tom's question, the mailing of the Board and Executive Committee Minutes to Assistant Directors and Section Managers is about the last vestige of the old "Director's Letter" system whereby we mailed out copies of FCC filings, etc. to about 700 people. I think it would be consistent with the direction things are going to make the July 2002 Board meeting the last for which we make the mailing, except in response to a request. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 3:51 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7612] Re: Minutes on paper At 01:13 PM 8/6/2002 -0400, K1ZZ wrote: > Sometimes we have the turning radius of the Queen Mary. Sometimes you can really tell that Dave has been on vacation. Opens up a whole new dimension in his e-mail messages. I like it. I have to say that I do like the paper copy of the minutes, and appreciated getting it, despite my mania for electronic stuff. Already used it once since it was more convenient to refer to than the electronic version - and I was responding to an e-mail message at the time. In cutting the "chains" of paper Board minutes, is it just the Board we will be severing ties to, or does that mean Section Managers and others will not get them on paper now? I seem to recall that Assistant Directors used to get them on paper also. I'm not necessarily opposed, just want to make sure I know what is planned. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/02

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[ARRL-ODV:7645] Re: Minutes on paper
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

To answer Tom's question, the mailing of the Board and Executive Committee Minutes to Assistant Directors and Section Managers is about the last vestige of the old "Director's Letter" system whereby we mailed out copies of FCC filings, etc. to about 700 people. I think it would be consistent with the direction things are going to make the July 2002 Board meeting the last for which we make the mailing, except in response to a request. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 3:51 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7612] Re: Minutes on paper At 01:13 PM 8/6/2002 -0400, K1ZZ wrote: > Sometimes we have the turning radius of the Queen Mary. Sometimes you can really tell that Dave has been on vacation. Opens up a whole new dimension in his e-mail messages. I like it. I have to say that I do like the paper copy of the minutes, and appreciated getting it, despite my mania for electronic stuff. Already used it once since it was more convenient to refer to than the electronic version - and I was responding to an e-mail message at the time. In cutting the "chains" of paper Board minutes, is it just the Board we will be severing ties to, or does that mean Section Managers and others will not get them on paper now? I seem to recall that Assistant Directors used to get them on paper also. I'm not necessarily opposed, just want to make sure I know what is planned. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki(a)arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444

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[ARRL-ODV:7644] Re: Fw: Riley Hollingsworth vs 147.435 W6NUT Repeater
by Art Goddard 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

That makes at least four replies, then. (Tuck, we'll talk about copying your Director off-line) Folks, it's a common practice for people, usually flamers, to send what appears to be an individually addressed message to a list. They are thrilled to receive a bunch of replies - and especially like it when they get conflicting replies. Please do not feel obligated to reply to KB6IAT further... 73, Art W6XD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tuck Miller NZ6T ARRL SWD Vice Director" <nz6t(a)arrl.org> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:03 PM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7643] Re: Fw: Riley Hollingsworth vs 147.435 W6NUT Repeater I did reply to him as it was addressed to me, and invited him to attend Riley's enforcement program on Friday nite, and ask him for himself. 73, Tuck Art Goddard wrote: > Folks, KB6IAT has received replies from at least 3 of you so far - it's not > necessary to reply further, unless you really feel you must. > > 73, Art W6XD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wade Walstrom" <walstrom(a)mchsi.com> > To: <kb6iat(a)arrl.net> > Cc: <w6xd(a)arrl.org> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 4:22 PM > Subject: Re: Riley Hollingsworth vs 147.435 W6NUT Repeater > > KB6IAT wrote: > > > Mr. Riley Hollingsworth is doing a poor job in regard to the 147.435 > > W6NUT Repeater in Los Angeles. > > > > I, being an ARRL Member, do not appreciate the use of ARRL Funds to pay > > the expenses of Mr. Hollingsworth to attend ARRL Functions. > > > > I realize that this will cause me to catch "Flack" and receive > > "Harassment" from various sources but, I most certainly believe in > > exercising my right of free speech. > > You have done that. > > > > > > > Why would I make such a statement? > > > > Please review my Web Page http://www.w6nut.com and listen to the > > UN-edited recordings of the "Out of Control" 147.435 W6NUT Los Angeles > > Repeater. There is my answer. > > > > RCrow kb6iat(a)arrl.net > > > > http://www.w6nut.com > > Thanks for the input. > > 73, > > Wade Walstrom W0EJ > Director, ARRL Midwest Division -- ************************************************ Remember, Helping Others....Always Worthwhile!! Southwestern Division Vice Director American Radio Relay League (ARRL) The national association for AMATEUR RADIO Are you a member yet? If not, visit http://www.arrl.org/join.html 2002 SWD Convention, Aug 16-18 For Registration forms, click on http://sd2002.hamcon.net/mainpage.html?registration.html Tuck's Personal Web Page: http://www.qsl.net/nz6t Follow Tuck around the Division via APRS: http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?NZ6T-9

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