November 2002 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:7928] DS gone Nov 5-30
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

As previously announced, I will be leaving later today for the IARU Administrative Council meeting in San Marino November 7-8 followed by the Region 1 Conference November 10-15 and another brief Administrative Council meeting November 16. On November 17 I go to Geneva to attend the ITU Conference Preparatory Meeting for the IARU. The CPM is scheduled to last two weeks, concluding on November 29. (American Thanksgiving is just another workday in Geneva.) My flight home is Saturday, November 30. I should have email access from Geneva at least, but it didn't work very well in September. I'm hoping the problem has been solved. The HQ staff will know how to reach me in an emergency. Dave K1ZZ

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[ARRL-ODV:7927] VEC Exam Fee for 2003
by Wilson, Mark K1RO 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

As part of the 2003/2004 Plan discussed and approved at the A&F Committee meeting last weekend, we are raising the VEC exam fee to $12, effective January 1, 2003. It is currently $10. Although in recent years we have narrowed the gap between VEC revenues and expenses, the increase to $12 is needed to bring the VEC program to breakeven in 2003 and 2004. We normally set the test fees for the next calendar year in mid-November, and at that time inform the VEs and make a public announcement. Please keep this confidential until the public announcement has been made. 73, Mark K1RO

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[ARRL-ODV:7926] Re: (no subject)
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

Kay sent a good reply to him that she might share if suitably goaded. Members are certainly not unanimous in their support of HR 4720. We have run some exchanges in QST "Correspondence" debating the whole matter of CC&Rs. If you're not personally affected it's easy to dismiss it as a waste of time and resources. I think the best tack to take with such members is to point out that while this may not be their issue, to succeed on other issues that are important to them we need the support of other members for whom those issues may not be important. As Ben Franklin said, "If we don't hang together, we most assuredly will hang separately." I'd be wary of downplaying the commitment of resources we're making to HR 4720. The incremental cost may not be huge since we'd be on the Hill anyway, but the lion's share of our legislative relations effort over the part eight months has been devoted to getting the bill introduced and getting cosponsors. Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Johnston, Gary (Dir, GL) Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:38 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7925] Re: (no subject) on 11/4/02 8:47 PM, W5JBP(a)aol.com at W5JBP(a)aol.com wrote: Sirs, I don't support the CC&R issue and feel the ARRL should stop wasting resources on it. People know the restrictions imposed on them when they move into a controlled area and must live with them. Nothing the ARRL is going to do will change this. If the ARRL continues to waste resources in this manner, it will certainly loose it's credibility with much of its membership. Of course if the only reason the ARRL is doing this is a result of donations received from its membership. Then it is easy to see why it would peruse an obviously futal cause. The clock is ticking and such causes will only hurt this organization in the long-run. Regards, James M Smith KC8SKX I have heard this same sentiment from at least one other ham in the GL Division. It is premised on a "don't rock the boat" - "don't wake the sleeping giant" mentality. And indeed there is some slight fear that the condo associations lobby will come out of the woodwork for this one. But so what? If I were in a condo association I would expect a radio organization to take this stance. And if we don't fight the CC&R's, I suspect it will embolden others attempt to erode the federal preemption itself. This is a good fight for us, and I believe we should be putting more resources into this than a few trips low budget trips to Washington. But let me be even more clear. If James here represents the 2nd person from the Great Lakes Division to echo this line of thought, there have been hundreds of others who have sat through my PowerPoint presentation on CC&R's and all but cheered the League's efforts. Far from doing this just because "donations have been received from the membership," we are doing this because we have a mandate from the membership to save/restore their antennas, and they are articulating that mandate with their wallets. 73, Gary KI4LA

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[ARRL-ODV:7925] Re: (no subject)
by Gary Johnston 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

on 11/4/02 8:47 PM, W5JBP(a)aol.com at W5JBP(a)aol.com wrote: > Sirs, > > I don't support the CC&R issue and feel the ARRL should stop wasting resources > on it. People know the restrictions imposed on them when they move into a > controlled area and must live with them. Nothing the ARRL is going to do will > change this. If the ARRL continues to waste resources in this manner, it will > certainly loose it's credibility with much of its membership. Of course if the > only reason the ARRL is doing this is a result of donations received from its > membership. Then it is easy to see why it would peruse an obviously futal > cause. The clock is ticking and such causes will only hurt this organization > in the long-run. > > Regards, > James M Smith > KC8SKX I have heard this same sentiment from at least one other ham in the GL Division. It is premised on a ³don¹t rock the boat² - ³don¹t wake the sleeping giant² mentality. And indeed there is some slight fear that the condo associations lobby will come out of the woodwork for this one. But so what? If I were in a condo association I would expect a radio organization to take this stance. And if we don¹t fight the CC&R¹s, I suspect it will embolden others attempt to erode the federal preemption itself. This is a good fight for us, and I believe we should be putting more resources into this than a few trips low budget trips to Washington. But let me be even more clear. If James here represents the 2nd person from the Great Lakes Division to echo this line of thought, there have been hundreds of others who have sat through my PowerPoint presentation on CC&R¹s and all but cheered the League¹s efforts. Far from doing this just because ³donations have been received from the membership,² we are doing this because we have a mandate from the membership to save/restore their antennas, and they are articulating that mandate with their wallets. 73, Gary KI4LA

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[ARRL-ODV:7924] Re: (no subject)
by Tuck Miller 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

Disregard my last. Thanks Jim. 73, Tuck W5JBP(a)aol.com wrote: > Possibly not all got the original, so here it is. JH > ================================================== > > > Subj: CC&R Restrictions > Date: 11/04/2002 11:39:04 AM Central Standard Time > From: jimmys1111(a)hotmail.com (James Smith) > To: w5jbp(a)arrl.org > > > > Sirs, > > I don't support the CC&R issue and feel the ARRL should stop wasting > resources on it. > > People know the restrictions imposed on them when they move into a > controlled area and must live with them. Nothing the ARRL is going to > do will change this. > > If the ARRL continues to waste resources in this manner, it will > certainly loose it's credibility with much of its membership. > > Of course if the only reason the ARRL is doing this is a result of > donations received from its membership. Then it is easy to see why it > would peruse an obviously futal cause. > > The clock is ticking and such causes will only hurt this organization > in the long-run. > > Regards, > James M Smith > KC8SKX > > > > -- ************************************************ Remember, Helping Others....Always Worthwhile!! Southwestern Division Vice Director American Radio Relay League (ARRL) The national association for AMATEUR RADIO Are you a member yet? If not, visit http://www.arrl.org/join.html Tuck's Personal Web Page: http://www.qsl.net/nz6t Follow Tuck around the Division via APRS: http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?NZ6T-9 To send a brief (110 Character max) e-mail, send to nz6t(a)amsat.org

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[ARRL-ODV:7923] (no subject)
by W5JBP＠aol.com 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

Possibly not all got the original, so here it is. JH ================================================== Subj: CC&R Restrictions Date: 11/04/2002 11:39:04 AM Central Standard Time From: jimmys1111(a)hotmail.com (James Smith) To: w5jbp(a)arrl.org Sirs, I don't support the CC&R issue and feel the ARRL should stop wasting resources on it. People know the restrictions imposed on them when they move into a controlled area and must live with them. Nothing the ARRL is going to do will change this. If the ARRL continues to waste resources in this manner, it will certainly loose it's credibility with much of its membership. Of course if the only reason the ARRL is doing this is a result of donations received from its membership. Then it is easy to see why it would peruse an obviously futal cause. The clock is ticking and such causes will only hurt this organization in the long-run. Regards, James M Smith KC8SKX

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[ARRL-ODV:7922] Re: CC&R's
by Tuck Miller 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

Jim, if possible, could you forward the original as well. I did not receive it, and possibly others did not as well. Thanks, 73, Tuck W5JBP(a)aol.com wrote: > This is my response. I am sending it to all, as it seems many of you > were on a hidden list. > > Jim Haynie > > ====================Subj: Re: CC&R Restrictions > Date: 11/04/2002 7:31:31 PM Central Standard Time > From: W5JBP > To: jimmys1111(a)hotmail.com > > > > James, thanks for the note. So far, I think we have spent less than a > thousand dollars. More than likely about five hundred. My time is > free, so the only expense was two days in a hotel in Washington and > air fair. > > 73 > > Jim Haynie, W5JBP > President, ARRL -- ************************************************ Remember, Helping Others....Always Worthwhile!! Southwestern Division Vice Director American Radio Relay League (ARRL) The national association for AMATEUR RADIO Are you a member yet? If not, visit http://www.arrl.org/join.html Tuck's Personal Web Page: http://www.qsl.net/nz6t Follow Tuck around the Division via APRS: http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?NZ6T-9 To send a brief (110 Character max) e-mail, send to nz6t(a)amsat.org

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[ARRL-ODV:7921] CC&R's
by W5JBP＠aol.com 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

This is my response. I am sending it to all, as it seems many of you were on a hidden list. Jim Haynie ====================Subj: Re: CC&R Restrictions Date: 11/04/2002 7:31:31 PM Central Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:W5JBP">W5JBP</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:jimmys1111@hotmail.com">jimmys1111(a)hotmail.com</A> James, thanks for the note. So far, I think we have spent less than a thousand dollars. More than likely about five hundred. My time is free, so the only expense was two days in a hotel in Washington and air fair. 73 Jim Haynie, W5JBP President, ARRL

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[ARRL-ODV:7920] Acceptable "interference temperature"
by Fried Heyn(3rd VP) 01 Nov '02

01 Nov '02

>From RCR Wireless News, http://www.rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=5701: ............ Powell suggests setting 'interference temperature' for underutilized spectrum Oct. 31, 2002 7:46 AM EST WASHINGTON--FCC Chairman Michael Powell on Wednesday called for the Federal Communications Commission to set an "interference temperature" as a way of using underutilized spectrum. "The time has come to consider an entirely new paradigm for interference protection. . There may be a clear quantitative application of what is acceptable interference for both license holders and the devices that can cause interference. Transmitters would be required to ensure that the interference level - or 'interference temperature' - is not exceeded. Receivers would be required to tolerate an interference level," said Powell. In a speech given Wednesday at the Silicon Flatirons Telecommunications Program at the University of Colorado at Boulder, Powell outlined his vision for spectrum policy. One part of Powell's vision is that spectrum is not scarce or at least not as scarce as it once was. "Scarcity will not be replaced by abundance; there will be places and times when services are spectrum constrained. However, scarcity need no longer be the lodestar by which we guide the spectrum ship of state," he said. Powell uses as evidence of less scarce spectrum a test that was conducted by the Spectrum Policy Task Force and the FCC's Office of Engineering and Technology. These tests measured the use of spectrum in five major U.S. cities, he said, not naming the cities. "The results showed that while some bands were heavily used, others either were not used or were used only part of the time. In appeared that these 'holes' in bandwidth or time could be used to provide significant increases in communication capacity, without impacting current users, through [the] use of new technologies. . Indeed it appears that most of [the] spectrum is not in use most of the time," said Powell. The wireless industry praised Powell's effort, even while reserving judgement on the final outcome of his spectrum policy vision and cautioning that any future spectrum policy must take into account what has happened up to now. "Chairman Powell is to be saluted for speaking out about the elephant in the room that has been in full view but ignored for so long - the absence of a spectrum policy for the nation. The question is: what kind of policy will fill that void?" asked Thomas Wheeler, president of the Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association. "Any spectrum policy will also have to deal with the fact that while the government has not had a plan, that has not inhibited it from making determinations upon which were based both corporate and consumer spending decisions."

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