November 2002 - arrl-odv - reflector.arrl.org

[ARRL-ODV:7938] Re: Voters Return Steve Israel to Congress
by w7oz＠attbi.com 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

WB7OCE, Greg Walden also won big in Oregon. 73/& Aloha from the Island of Molokai in Hawaii/KH6 Greg W7OZ > I am sure you were all dying to know this. I am also aware that it may > not be reported nationally. Good news but no surprise to me. > > Our HR4720 sponsor won 53% of the vote in his district and will return > to DC to continue sponsoring our CC&R bill. This will be his second > term in office. > > US Congress Dist. 2 -- 502 of 502 precincts reporting (100%) > > Israel* (D-I-WF) 81,454 58% > Finley (R-C-RtL) 56,784 41% > Keenan (G) 1,494 1% > > Frank...N2FF.... > > >

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[ARRL-ODV:7937] Re: Voters Return Steve Israel to Congress
by Art Goddard 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

Great news!... (given that GOP controls the House) dARTh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Fallon" <n2ff(a)optonline.net> To: "arrl-odv" <arrl-odv(a)reflector.arrl.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:17 AM Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7935] Voters Return Steve Israel to Congress > I am sure you were all dying to know this. I am also aware that it may > not be reported nationally. Good news but no surprise to me. > > Our HR4720 sponsor won 53% of the vote in his district and will return > to DC to continue sponsoring our CC&R bill. This will be his second > term in office. > > US Congress Dist. 2 -- 502 of 502 precincts reporting (100%) > > Israel* (D-I-WF) 81,454 58% > Finley (R-C-RtL) 56,784 41% > Keenan (G) 1,494 1% > > Frank...N2FF.... > > > >

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[ARRL-ODV:7936] Re: Congratulations
by Dennis Bodson 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

Jim: Great job.My thanks to all. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: W5JBP(a)aol.com [mailto:W5JBP@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:04 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:7934] Congratulations In the December issue of QST is a feature article on the progress made with the Education and Technology program (AKA The Big Project). When I read my advance copy, I had to admit that this is just about the best Christmas present that anyone could get. I read it several times, because I wanted to know the teacher comments. I wanted to hear what the kids were saying. I feel you will do the same. My heartfelt thanks to each of you on the board, the staff and Jerry Hill who has done an outstanding job. He has picked up the ball and charged ahead. But, none of this would not be happening without financial support from the donors. Some are recognized in the article, but the rest, you know who you are. Thank you. This weekend the education fund picked up an additional $25,000 and when it is time I will let Mary Hobart announce the donor. We also have a chance to get a grant of $10,000 per year from another association. As you can see, and point with pride, what the League is doing for amateur radio. 73 and thanks Jim Haynie, W5JBP

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[ARRL-ODV:7935] Voters Return Steve Israel to Congress
by Frank Fallon 06 Nov '02

06 Nov '02

I am sure you were all dying to know this. I am also aware that it may not be reported nationally. Good news but no surprise to me. Our HR4720 sponsor won 53% of the vote in his district and will return to DC to continue sponsoring our CC&R bill. This will be his second term in office. US Congress Dist. 2 -- 502 of 502 precincts reporting (100%) Israel* (D-I-WF) 81,454 58% Finley (R-C-RtL) 56,784 41% Keenan (G) 1,494 1% Frank...N2FF....

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[ARRL-ODV:7934] Congratulations
by W5JBP＠aol.com 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

In the December issue of QST is a feature article on the progress made with the Education and Technology program (AKA The Big Project). When I read my advance copy, I had to admit that this is just about the best Christmas present that anyone could get. I read it several times, because I wanted to know the teacher comments. I wanted to hear what the kids were saying. I feel you will do the same. My heartfelt thanks to each of you on the board, the staff and Jerry Hill who has done an outstanding job. He has picked up the ball and charged ahead. But, none of this would not be happening without financial support from the donors. Some are recognized in the article, but the rest, you know who you are. Thank you. This weekend the education fund picked up an additional $25,000 and when it is time I will let Mary Hobart announce the donor. We also have a chance to get a grant of $10,000 per year from another association. As you can see, and point with pride, what the League is doing for amateur radio. 73 and thanks Jim Haynie, W5JBP

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[ARRL-ODV:7933] QCWA National Convention trip report
by Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

Trip Report QCWA National Convention Kissimmee, Florida - October 25-27, 2002 I was invited to be banquet speaker at this year's QCWA National Convention. I am a QCWA member and had attended an earlier QCWA National Convention in Manchester, New Hampshire, so I had some idea of what to expect. Because the convention was held in his division, Frank Butler also attended. Attendance was only about 125 and there were no commercial exhibits. It was good to see Leo Meyerson, W0GFQ. Sadly, Leo's wife passed away after a long illness, but he is now freer to travel and is still able to do so. I hope I look as good at age 61 as he does at 91. I arrived Friday afternoon, in time for the welcoming reception and prize drawing. I was met at the airport by Joe Pendergrass, W6AAB, a recent transplant to the Orlando area. Joe and I were members of the Michigan State University Amateur Radio Club, W8SH, in the late 1960s when he was WA8UEY. Joe told me he is the youngest member of his local QCWA chapter, which holds its meetings a weekday noon - convenient for retirees but not for those like Joe who still work. There's quite a generation gap plaguing QCWA. I'm 15 years older than many amateurs who are now qualifying for QCWA membership but most of the members are at least 20 years older than me. QCWA hasn't found a way to be interesting or relevant to amateurs my age, much less those who are younger. This doesn't bode well for the future of the organization unless they make a serious effort to address the interests of younger amateurs. Saturday morning I was given an hour for a forum which was well attended, with about 75 present. I spent the first half of the forum reviewing the events of the past year, using the December QST editorial (which no one had seen yet) as the outline, and took questions for the second half. When the hour was already over and I was trying to wrap things up, John Huntoon, W1RW, asked what the reaction had been to dropping Section News. I didn't know it at the time, but apparently the question was prompted by the fact that the QCWA Board has been discussing dropping Chapter News from the QCWA quarterly journal in order to save money. I replied that the reaction had been mixed but that most Section Managers seemed to accept it and most members didn't mind. (Frank told me later that he wished he had also had the opportunity to reply.) We had lunch with the new QCWA President, Croft Taylor, VE3CT, and past President Gary Harrison, K0BC. Croft is retired from Canadian Bell where he held a senior technical position. I had decided to devote the banquet speech to the future and to talk about what QCWA members could do to ensure a healthy future for Amateur Radio. The essence of the message was, "Share your passion for radio with newcomers." I managed to work in that if you could, you should also write a check since the programs needed for a healthy future were beyond what an organization could support through membership dues. Over breakfast at the airport the following morning I talked with QCWA Director Arch Doty, W7ACD, about the draft revised MOU between ARRL and QCWA. The existing MOU dates to 1984 and has a number of obsolete references (for example, to the ARRL having a Canadian division) that require updating. A draft exists that accomplishes this that has been worked on in VRC, but there is still an obsolete reference to "information mailings" to QCWA Chapters that has been overtaken by our dissemination of information electronically. I think the reference instead should be to linking to one another's Web sites as a specific example of cooperation between the two organizations. Arch said the matter wasn't urgent, but it would be nice to get it settled. David Sumner, K1ZZ Chief Executive Officer, ARRL November 5, 2002

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[ARRL-ODV:7932] Re: (no subject)
by W5JBP＠aol.com 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

Yes, it was a great response. I regret that mine was a little short. I had just got in from a 375 mile trip to West Texas on top of the Denver trip (I finally got my bags last night) and it irritated me that this person insinuated that we were literally spending the bank on something he did not agree. Dave is correct in that if we did add up all the peripheral items, the costs are more than most realize. But also, we are in Washington anyway so you have to spread the cost of HR-4720 over a number of things rather than just the one. Good response Kay. 73 Jim Haynie

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[ARRL-ODV:7931] Re: (no subject)
by W3KD＠aol.com 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

I can see why Dave was impressed with Kay's letter on CC&Rs. I thought it one of the best written responses to a member I have ever seen. Bravo, Kay. Superb. 73, Chris W3KD

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[ARRL-ODV:7930] FW: CC&R's
by Gary Johnston 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

Another reply to James, FYI. ------ Forwarded Message From: Gary Johnston <ki4la(a)arrl.org> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 08:39:28 -0500 To: <jimmys1111(a)hotmail.com> Cc: Jim Haynie <W5JBP(a)aol.com>, Dick Mondro <w8fqt(a)arrl.org>, Debbie Kirkbride <KA8YKK(a)concentric.net> Subject: CC&R's > Sirs, > > I don't support the CC&R issue and feel the ARRL should stop wasting resources > on it. People know the restrictions imposed on them when they move into a > controlled area and must live with them. Nothing the ARRL is going to do will > change this. If the ARRL continues to waste resources in this manner, it will > certainly loose it's credibility with much of its membership. Of course if the > only reason the ARRL is doing this is a result of donations received from its > membership. Then it is easy to see why it would peruse an obviously futal > cause. The clock is ticking and such causes will only hurt this organization > in the long-run. > > Regards, > James M Smith > KC8SKX James, President Haynie copied me on your message since I am your Great Lakes Division director. I see you live right on White Lake in Michigan, just a bit east of I-75. I was just by there a week or so ago on my way up to the Sault Ste. Marie hamfest. What a pretty part of the country! I have heard the sentiment you voice from at least one other ham in the GL Division. And I understand the ³don¹t rock the boat² - ³don¹t wake the sleeping giant² thinking. Indeed I share some slight fear that the condo associations lobby will come out of the woodwork for this one. But is that really something we should fear? If I were in a condo association I would expect a radio organization to take this stance. On the other hand, if we DON¹T fight the CC&R¹s, I suspect it will embolden others who will in turn attempt to erode the federal preemption (PRB-1) itself. That would be a disaster. This is a good fight for us, and I believe we should be putting more rather than fewer resources into this effort. You represent the 2nd person I have heard from in the Great Lakes Division (or anywhere else) to echo this line of thinking. But there have been hundreds of others who have sat through my PowerPoint presentation on CC&R¹sat hamfest forums and club meetings and all but cheered the League¹s efforts. (Of course, you could be right and everybody else wrong.) I must take issue with one of your premises. Far from doing this just because ³donations have been received from the membership,² we are doing this because we have a mandate from the membership to save/restore their antennas, and they are articulating that mandate with their wallets, not the other way round. I hope we can meet at the Monroe Hamfest in 2003 (closest one to you I know I will be attending). Meanwhile, thanks for your thoughts. And, again, I do understand where you are coming from on this, but I think it is a battle in which we must engage. 73, Gary KI4LA +----------Gary L. Johnston KI4LA------------+ | ARRL Great Lakes Division Director | | The National Association for Amateur Radio | | ki4la(a)arrl.org | | 10-10 # 08361 | | 425-984-7957 eFAX | | http://www.arrl.org | | http://www.nku.edu/~johnston/hambio.htmlx | | http://greatlakes.arrl.org | +-------Visit Our Division Web Site----------+ * Prospective hams... call the New Ham Hotline! * 1-800-32 NEW HAM (1-800-326-3942) * Or surf to <http://www.arrl.org/hamradio.html>! "I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do." - Edward Everette Hale "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." - Albert Einstein "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin, ~1784 ------ End of Forwarded Message

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[ARRL-ODV:7929] Re: (no subject)
by Kay Craigie 05 Nov '02

05 Nov '02

Here is what I wrote to Mr. Smith: ================================ Dear James, Thanks for letting me know your views on the CC&R issue. The ARRL is pursuing this subject because a significant number of hams in the USA believe it is essential for the future of our radio service. In some parts of the country, though perhaps not where you live, it is virtually impossible to purchase newly-constructed homes without restrictions making antennas out of bounds. That includes simple, nearly-invisible wires for HF and small verticals for VHF/UHF. Thus, if a family wants to live in a nice neighborhood, forget about ham radio at home. Also, many people decide they want to become hams long after purchasing their homes. They didn't make a choice, because they weren't hams when they bought their houses. The donations ARRL receives for the advocacy program, which deals with this and other issues affecting ham radio in the USA, do not provide any excess of revenue over expenses. Also, all money that is donated for a specific purpose must be spent for that purpose, under IRS rules. It can't be used, say, to pay for regular operating expenses of the organization if it was donated for, say, defense of spectrum. Ten years ago, getting the FCC to enforce their Rules for the Amateur service appeared to be hopeless. The ARRL received every excuse in the book why enforcement was impossible. But the ARRL continued to seek ways to achieve the enforcement that responsible hams demanded. Finally, a breakthrough occurred and now enforcement is a reality again. This wouldn't have happened had the ARRL decided it was no use and a poor way to spend the membership's money. True, solving the CC&R problem will not happen rapidly and it will cost a lot of money. But thousands of hams in many communities across the USA say they expect the ARRL to work on it. We won't let them down. 73 - Kay WT3P --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 10/31/2002

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