One thing I've struggled with, especially with the new pro-Winlink group but also the other emails, is how to let them know it was a great idea to go to FCC to see what we could salvage of the petition, without coming out and saying "and they invited us to do so". So Joel -- there were no supporting comments from the Winlink types? I've been telling these recent correspondents that they needed to generate many more supportive comments next time. I didn't realize they'd done NONE on this. 73 Bruce K0BJ