We'll never satisfy every member all the time, but the time we should start worrying is when they stop caring. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Pace, Jim, K7CEX Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:58 AM To: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ; Norris, David, K5UZ; arrl-odv Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:24061] Re: RHR Add on Adjacent Page to K1ZZ Artiicle I don't know either, Dave, but am seeing another publishing decision that has caused some membership anxiety. As for P&SC, I have no idea as I am not on that committee. I'm sure we will get through this one, as in the previous ones. 73, Jim -----Original Message----- From: Sumner, Dave, K1ZZ [mailto:dsumner@arrl.org] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 7:17 AM To: Pace, Jim, K7CEX; Norris, David, K5UZ; arrl-odv Subject: RE: [arrl-odv:24061] Re: RHR Add on Adjacent Page to K1ZZ Artiicle Jim, I don't know how we could have achieved "a little more conservative placement." RHR's payment for the placement is on an ongoing basis (since the February issue) and is not tied to whatever the topic of the editorial on the facing page might be. In any case, the editorial isn't likely to revisit the topic of remote operation any time soon. The subject isn't on the PSC agenda for further consideration, is it? 73, Dave K1ZZ -----Original Message----- From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Pace, Jim, K7CEX Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 6:33 PM To: Norris, David, K5UZ; arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:24061] Re: RHR Add on Adjacent Page to K1ZZ Artiicle All: I'm afraid this is not playing well in the NW Division either. Although I understand we need advertisers, I feel that we should have used a little more conservative placement, until we finalized our rule planning/changing and input from our members in regards to DXCC and Contest issues vs. For lease/hire stations. I'm sure we will weather the storm but it might have been easier after a full review of rules in regards to the foregoing. 73, Jim -----Original Message----- From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of David Norris Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 9:45 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:24057] RHR Add on Adjacent Page to K1ZZ Artiicle GM All, I have received a number if very angry complaints from some notable DXers in this division about this poorly placed add in April QST Digital Ed. Was this done on purpose or by coincidence? Many feel this to be a direct insult to their achievements in the DXCC program. Further, this is giving legs to the false claim circulating around that the ARRL is "selling out" to the commercial remote interests. This ad placement was not well thought out and now I have a good number of angry members demanding an apology and a one actually calling for an investigation. This continues to be a hot button issue for many of us and inattentive actions like this cause more controversy and do not facilitate an environment where we can settle any outstanding differences in a calm and reasonable manner among our members. Who did this ad layout and page selection? Does the hard copy April QST have the same page sequence? Someone needs to start using a little more thought and common sense. "40 over 9! RHR ad adjacent to that remote operating editorial? Really?? We're just asking for it! 73 David A. Norris, K5UZ Director Delta Division Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv