I think he's mellowed......or I had a worse impression of him years ago. Maybe I've changed, or just couldn't care less what he thinks these days!! ZN -----Original Message----- From: dick@pobox.com [mailto:dick@pobox.com] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:19 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [ARRL-ODV:11074] The More So Effect 12 AUG, 2004 - 1515 CDT For the last 15 to 20 years, Judy and I have been observing the more so effect as it relates to aging. As a person gets older, their personality traits become more pronounced. If the individual was a pain in the a-- early in life, he or she becomes more so with advancing age. It certainly appears this applies to JJ. - Dick, W9GIG