Chris, In all my experiences when presenting a request for an "amateur" support structure we have always stressed that we are unpaid volunteers and generally ride a white horse and all the rest. When a ham puts a commercial system on his tower he really changes the political dynamic of his situation. These cases/hearings/struggles are always political. I would not be comfortable dealing with your problem in Rancho Palos Verdes. Many towns here are often afraid to give us too much or even anything as it will set a precedent, they feel, for any future dealings they have with the commercial cell tower folks. I do think that any ham who adds a commercial transmitter to his tower clouds the issue and he is certainly no longer riding a white horse as far as the neighbors and the town are concerned, but I guess it is for the courts to determine whether he is wearing a mask in these instances. Frank...N2FF.... W3KD@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 6/14/2002 3:23:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, n2ff@optonline.net writes: My position is, once you put one commercial transmitter on your ham tower it becomes a commercial tower forever. That is exactly the opposite of an argument I have been making in Rancho Palos Verdes, CA, as Art well knows. But it is subject to debate, I will concede. Chris