[arrl-odv:32664] EmComm Director - requirements issue
This is a follow-up to the posting about the search we are doing for the Director, Emergency Management. In the posting, a requirement listed was for US Citizenship. I received emails within minutes from 2 Directors concerned about this requirement. I will be rewording the requirement, but I have worked with CT counsel and here's the short of it: * It is not illegal to require US Citizenship for a position * The requirement must be tied to a legitimate reason or cause * The reason or cause must be documentable and defendable My assessment was confirmed by counsel. The reasoning is this: * The first two served agencies examined (FEMA, DHS) -REQUIRE- US Citizenship for employment. Although there are "rare exceptions", they require citizenship. * These requirements are public and well documented. * It is not unreasonable to expect that our EmComm Director, in order to attend meetings of a sensitive nature or clearance, would be held to the same standards. * It is not unreasonable to expect that if our EmComm Director did not meet these standards, these agencies could quietly or overtly exclude ARRL from those meetings. It is my intention to add the following language to the job description after having passed it through counsel: "Must be able to be credentialed by our served agencies, who may require US Citizenship and an FBI background check." If you have an issue with this, please contact me directly, ASAP. Thanks. David
David As a Member of the originating ECFSC and the EC, I have no objection to the proposed language or to the underlying reasoning. The language is accurate, does not violate any known law and the supporting reasoning is defensible. I support the publication of the job notice with the proposed language. ______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office:512-445-6262 Cell:512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 *______________________________________* On 8/11/21 4:45 PM, Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) wrote:
This is a follow-up to the posting about the search we are doing for the Director, Emergency Management.
In the posting, a requirement listed was for US Citizenship. I received emails within minutes from 2 Directors concerned about this requirement.
I will be rewording the requirement, but I have worked with CT counsel and here’s the short of it:
* It is not illegal to require US Citizenship for a position * The requirement must be tied to a legitimate reason or cause * The reason or cause must be documentable and defendable
My assessment was confirmed by counsel. The reasoning is this:
* The first two served agencies examined (FEMA, DHS) -REQUIRE- US Citizenship for employment. Although there are “rare exceptions”, they require citizenship. * These requirements are public and well documented. * It is not unreasonable to expect that our EmComm Director, in order to attend meetings of a sensitive nature or clearance, would be held to the same standards. * It is not unreasonable to expect that if our EmComm Director did not meet these standards, these agencies could quietly or overtly exclude ARRL from those meetings.
It is my intention to add the following language to the job description after having passed it through counsel:
“Must be able to be credentialed by our served agencies, who may require US Citizenship and an FBI background check.”
If you have an issue with this, please contact me directly, ASAP.
Thanks.
David
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I am a member of said committee and I oppose even this language. I would encourage all of my fellow directors who do not approve to voice their dissent as well. I do not agree with counsel’s assessment and in our previous communications you have indicated that counsel was “wishy washy” and you didn’t trust what they said. I was not aware that they have firmly come out in favor of this requirement. This is certainly news to me. A well known defense contractor is facing this very issue - Space Exploration Technologies Corp (SpaceX) is facing a federal investigation by the DOJ over alleged discriminatory practices after a candidate who is a permanent resident complained to the EEOC about discrimination based on national origin. ARRL does not deal with national secrets. None of what we do requires any sort of security clearance. As much as ham radio operators would like to pretend that we do, we don’t. If a defense contractor who deals with intelligence gathering and ICBMs can’t impose this requirement, who are we? At the very least we should remove anything that would allow anyone to complain about national origin discrimination. If I were an outsider applying for the job, I would decline to disclose my citizenship status until an offer was made. And I would be well within my rights to do so. Ria N2RJ On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 5:45 PM Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) < dminster@arrl.org> wrote:
This is a follow-up to the posting about the search we are doing for the Director, Emergency Management.
In the posting, a requirement listed was for US Citizenship. I received emails within minutes from 2 Directors concerned about this requirement.
I will be rewording the requirement, but I have worked with CT counsel and here’s the short of it:
- It is not illegal to require US Citizenship for a position - The requirement must be tied to a legitimate reason or cause - The reason or cause must be documentable and defendable
My assessment was confirmed by counsel. The reasoning is this:
- The first two served agencies examined (FEMA, DHS) -REQUIRE- US Citizenship for employment. Although there are “rare exceptions”, they require citizenship. - These requirements are public and well documented. - It is not unreasonable to expect that our EmComm Director, in order to attend meetings of a sensitive nature or clearance, would be held to the same standards. - It is not unreasonable to expect that if our EmComm Director did not meet these standards, these agencies could quietly or overtly exclude ARRL from those meetings.
It is my intention to add the following language to the job description after having passed it through counsel:
“Must be able to be credentialed by our served agencies, who may require US Citizenship and an FBI background check.”
If you have an issue with this, please contact me directly, ASAP.
Thanks.
David _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
Ria, I'm afraid I'm going to have to side with Mr. Minster on this one. Before I retired I used to work for a telecom company that did a lot of business with Federal government agencies, and we often had to physically visit our customers in Federal facilities, such as the FBI building in Washington, DC, the FAA headquarters in Oklahoma, a few US military bases, and federally owned centers, such as the Bonneville Power Administration. My boss at the time was from France, and was a French citizen. He was not allowed to accompany us into ANY of these facilities without extensive credentialing many months in advance of the planned visit, if at all. All we US citizens needed was a week or so for a rudimentary background check, at the most. This is not an engineering type position sitting in an office where it won't really matter if they are a US citizen or not, this person could be and will be dealing with people at a high level in government, and has to have access to government facilities where they work. Maybe things have changed under the current Biden administration, but I do not believe the US citizen requirement is unreasonable in this case. It will give them MUCH easier access to our strategic partners in US government facilities. 73; Mike W7VO On 08/11/2021 4:00 PM rjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com> wrote:
I am a member of said committee and I oppose even this language.
I would encourage all of my fellow directors who do not approve to voice their dissent as well.
I do not agree with counsel’s assessment and in our previous communications you have indicated that counsel was “wishy washy” and you didn’t trust what they said. I was not aware that they have firmly come out in favor of this requirement. This is certainly news to me.
A well known defense contractor is facing this very issue - Space Exploration Technologies Corp (SpaceX) is facing a federal investigation by the DOJ over alleged discriminatory practices after a candidate who is a permanent resident complained to the EEOC about discrimination based on national origin.
ARRL does not deal with national secrets. None of what we do requires any sort of security clearance.
As much as ham radio operators would like to pretend that we do, we don’t.
If a defense contractor who deals with intelligence gathering and ICBMs can’t impose this requirement, who are we?
At the very least we should remove anything that would allow anyone to complain about national origin discrimination.
If I were an outsider applying for the job, I would decline to disclose my citizenship status until an offer was made. And I would be well within my rights to do so.
Ria N2RJ
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 5:45 PM Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) < dminster@arrl.org mailto:dminster@arrl.org > wrote:
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This is a follow-up to the posting about the search we are doing for the Director, Emergency Management.
In the posting, a requirement listed was for US Citizenship. I received emails within minutes from 2 Directors concerned about this requirement.
I will be rewording the requirement, but I have worked with CT counsel and here’s the short of it:
* It is not illegal to require US Citizenship for a position * The requirement must be tied to a legitimate reason or cause * The reason or cause must be documentable and defendable
My assessment was confirmed by counsel. The reasoning is this:
* The first two served agencies examined (FEMA, DHS) -REQUIRE- US Citizenship for employment. Although there are “rare exceptions”, they require citizenship. * These requirements are public and well documented. * It is not unreasonable to expect that our EmComm Director, in order to attend meetings of a sensitive nature or clearance, would be held to the same standards. * It is not unreasonable to expect that if our EmComm Director did not meet these standards, these agencies could quietly or overtly exclude ARRL from those meetings.
It is my intention to add the following language to the job description after having passed it through counsel:
“Must be able to be credentialed by our served agencies, who may require US Citizenship and an FBI background check.”
If you have an issue with this, please contact me directly, ASAP.
Thanks.
David
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David, I am not opposed to this language. Many Federal and State agencies require US citizenship as one of the conditions of employment, my own included. I think it is appropriate for this title to have such a requirement for reasons previously stated. TU ES 73 David A. Norris, K5UZ Director, Delta Division ARRL The National Association for Amateur RadioTM -----Original Message----- From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 4:45 PM To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:32664] EmComm Director - requirements issue This is a follow-up to the posting about the search we are doing for the Director, Emergency Management. In the posting, a requirement listed was for US Citizenship. I received emails within minutes from 2 Directors concerned about this requirement. I will be rewording the requirement, but I have worked with CT counsel and here's the short of it: * It is not illegal to require US Citizenship for a position * The requirement must be tied to a legitimate reason or cause * The reason or cause must be documentable and defendable My assessment was confirmed by counsel. The reasoning is this: * The first two served agencies examined (FEMA, DHS) -REQUIRE- US Citizenship for employment. Although there are "rare exceptions", they require citizenship. * These requirements are public and well documented. * It is not unreasonable to expect that our EmComm Director, in order to attend meetings of a sensitive nature or clearance, would be held to the same standards. * It is not unreasonable to expect that if our EmComm Director did not meet these standards, these agencies could quietly or overtly exclude ARRL from those meetings. It is my intention to add the following language to the job description after having passed it through counsel: "Must be able to be credentialed by our served agencies, who may require US Citizenship and an FBI background check." If you have an issue with this, please contact me directly, ASAP. Thanks. David
David, I truly agree with Director Norris, In my own experience with my local county government and the appointments I hold there, and with my term as SEC while operating from the Michigan State EOC, I was by the very nature of being present, exposed to discussions that were restricted to those in attendance who were US citizens with background checks. The same holds true today, while I may not necessarily be a party to the specific discussion, as a committee member, I am in the room while others hold those conversations. US citizenship is entirely appropriate for the position of EMCOMM Director. That person will certainly be attending meetings where the topics are of a very sensitive nature. 73, Dale Williams WA8EFK Director Great Lakes Division On 8/11/2021 5:45 PM, Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) wrote:
This is a follow-up to the posting about the search we are doing for the Director, Emergency Management.
In the posting, a requirement listed was for US Citizenship. I received emails within minutes from 2 Directors concerned about this requirement.
I will be rewording the requirement, but I have worked with CT counsel and here’s the short of it:
* It is not illegal to require US Citizenship for a position * The requirement must be tied to a legitimate reason or cause * The reason or cause must be documentable and defendable
My assessment was confirmed by counsel. The reasoning is this:
* The first two served agencies examined (FEMA, DHS) -REQUIRE- US Citizenship for employment. Although there are “rare exceptions”, they require citizenship. * These requirements are public and well documented. * It is not unreasonable to expect that our EmComm Director, in order to attend meetings of a sensitive nature or clearance, would be held to the same standards. * It is not unreasonable to expect that if our EmComm Director did not meet these standards, these agencies could quietly or overtly exclude ARRL from those meetings.
It is my intention to add the following language to the job description after having passed it through counsel:
“Must be able to be credentialed by our served agencies, who may require US Citizenship and an FBI background check.”
If you have an issue with this, please contact me directly, ASAP.
Thanks.
David
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I agree with the language proposed by CT counsel. "Able to be credentialed by our served agencies" is not discrimination based on national origin. Examples: Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger (born German), and Madeline Albright (born Czech). Martin Indyk-Pres. Obama's Middle East Envoy and twice US Ambassador to Israel - he and I share common great grandparents, (born British, with parents from Poland). There are many examples of foreign nationals who obtain security clearances. -Fred K1VR From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Dale Williams Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:16 AM To: Minster, David NA2AA (CEO); arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:32669] Re: EmComm Director - requirements issue David, I truly agree with Director Norris, In my own experience with my local county government and the appointments I hold there, and with my term as SEC while operating from the Michigan State EOC, I was by the very nature of being present, exposed to discussions that were restricted to those in attendance who were US citizens with background checks. The same holds true today, while I may not necessarily be a party to the specific discussion, as a committee member, I am in the room while others hold those conversations. US citizenship is entirely appropriate for the position of EMCOMM Director. That person will certainly be attending meetings where the topics are of a very sensitive nature. 73, Dale Williams WA8EFK Director Great Lakes Division On 8/11/2021 5:45 PM, Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) wrote: This is a follow-up to the posting about the search we are doing for the Director, Emergency Management. In the posting, a requirement listed was for US Citizenship. I received emails within minutes from 2 Directors concerned about this requirement. I will be rewording the requirement, but I have worked with CT counsel and here's the short of it: * It is not illegal to require US Citizenship for a position * The requirement must be tied to a legitimate reason or cause * The reason or cause must be documentable and defendable My assessment was confirmed by counsel. The reasoning is this: * The first two served agencies examined (FEMA, DHS) -REQUIRE- US Citizenship for employment. Although there are "rare exceptions", they require citizenship. * These requirements are public and well documented. * It is not unreasonable to expect that our EmComm Director, in order to attend meetings of a sensitive nature or clearance, would be held to the same standards. * It is not unreasonable to expect that if our EmComm Director did not meet these standards, these agencies could quietly or overtly exclude ARRL from those meetings. It is my intention to add the following language to the job description after having passed it through counsel: "Must be able to be credentialed by our served agencies, who may require US Citizenship and an FBI background check." If you have an issue with this, please contact me directly, ASAP. Thanks. David _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
HI All, I also would agree with Fred and the language proposed by the CT counsel. As Fred noted below, Foreign Nationals can be credentialed by the US Government to obtain various types of security clearances. Requiring the ability to be credentialed is not discriminatory, but simply a requirement of the job. Many positions across aerospace, defense contracting , R & D, government service, etc, are advertised as “ability to obtain a US Government Security Clearance is required.” Obtaining a clearance is not just dependent upon the candidate’s nationality. Many other factors are considered in a “background investigation.” Some of these factors include, but are not limited to, the collection of “adverse” information about the individual “nominated” for the particular level of clearance. "Adverse information” can fall into many different categories, such as “drug and alcohol abuse, prior criminal convictions, personal behavior and character, financial position, such as a bankruptcy filing, etc.” The purpose of the evaluation of “adverse information” is to assess the nominee’s susceptibility to coercion and temptation to reveal or share “classified” information with someone who does not have a “need to know.” One should also understand that there are many different levels of security clearances, ranging from “confidential” to “top secret” and “special access programs/ special access required”. Please also note that all US Government Security Clearance Background Investigations are the responsibility of the Defense Investigative Services (DIS) and not the FBI. I hope that this clarifies some of the mystique surrounding Security Clearances. However, most importantly, I would suggest that David Minster discuss with his counterpart at FEMA/DHS, the type and level of clearance a potential ARRL employee might require in this position so as to be able to fully participate in all FEMA/DHS events as required. 73 and best regards to all, Dave, K2DP Dave Propper, K2DP ARRL Midwest Division Vice Director 314-225-5167
On Aug 12, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Fred Hopengarten <hopengarten@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
I agree with the language proposed by CT counsel.
“Able to be credentialed by our served agencies” is not discrimination based on national origin. Examples: Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger (born German), and Madeline Albright (born Czech). Martin Indyk-Pres. Obama’s Middle East Envoy and twice US Ambassador to Israel - he and I share common great grandparents, (born British, with parents from Poland). There are many examples of foreign nationals who obtain security clearances.
-Fred K1VR
From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org <mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org>] On Behalf Of Dale Williams Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:16 AM To: Minster, David NA2AA (CEO); arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:32669] Re: EmComm Director - requirements issue
David,
I truly agree with Director Norris,
In my own experience with my local county government and the appointments I hold there, and with my term as SEC while operating from the Michigan State EOC, I was by the very nature of being present, exposed to discussions that were restricted to those in attendance who were US citizens with background checks.
The same holds true today, while I may not necessarily be a party to the specific discussion, as a committee member, I am in the room while others hold those conversations.
US citizenship is entirely appropriate for the position of EMCOMM Director. That person will certainly be attending meetings where the topics are of a very sensitive nature.
73,
Dale Williams WA8EFK Director Great Lakes Division
On 8/11/2021 5:45 PM, Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) wrote:
This is a follow-up to the posting about the search we are doing for the Director, Emergency Management.
In the posting, a requirement listed was for US Citizenship. I received emails within minutes from 2 Directors concerned about this requirement.
I will be rewording the requirement, but I have worked with CT counsel and here’s the short of it:
It is not illegal to require US Citizenship for a position The requirement must be tied to a legitimate reason or cause The reason or cause must be documentable and defendable
My assessment was confirmed by counsel. The reasoning is this:
The first two served agencies examined (FEMA, DHS) -REQUIRE- US Citizenship for employment. Although there are “rare exceptions”, they require citizenship. These requirements are public and well documented. It is not unreasonable to expect that our EmComm Director, in order to attend meetings of a sensitive nature or clearance, would be held to the same standards. It is not unreasonable to expect that if our EmComm Director did not meet these standards, these agencies could quietly or overtly exclude ARRL from those meetings.
It is my intention to add the following language to the job description after having passed it through counsel:
“Must be able to be credentialed by our served agencies, who may require US Citizenship and an FBI background check.”
If you have an issue with this, please contact me directly, ASAP.
Thanks.
David
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Thank you Dave. As I had noted, the language still contains a statement that US nationality may be required. I have had employment for state and local Government (New York State and City) as a contractor and FTE including critical transportation and other infrastructure and never once was nationality ever a consideration. I was not a US citizen at that time, but I did have a green card. I've passed background checks for that employment without issue. I agree that we should have discussed this with FEMA/DHS and taken guidance from them. Ria N2RJ On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 2:16 PM David Propper <k2dp@charter.net> wrote:
HI All,
I also would agree with Fred and the language proposed by the CT counsel.
As Fred noted below, Foreign Nationals can be credentialed by the US Government to obtain various types of security clearances.
Requiring the ability to be credentialed is not discriminatory, but simply a requirement of the job. Many positions across aerospace, defense contracting , R & D, government service, etc, are advertised as “ability to obtain a US Government Security Clearance is required.”
Obtaining a clearance is not just dependent upon the candidate’s nationality. Many other factors are considered in a “background investigation.” Some of these factors include, but are not limited to, the collection of “adverse” information about the individual “nominated” for the particular level of clearance. "Adverse information” can fall into many different categories, such as “drug and alcohol abuse, prior criminal convictions, personal behavior and character, financial position, such as a bankruptcy filing, etc.” The purpose of the evaluation of “adverse information” is to assess the nominee’s susceptibility to coercion and temptation to reveal or share “classified” information with someone who does not have a “need to know.” One should also understand that there are many different levels of security clearances, ranging from “confidential” to “top secret” and “special access programs/ special access required”. Please also note that all US Government Security Clearance Background Investigations are the responsibility of the Defense Investigative Services (DIS) and not the FBI.
I hope that this clarifies some of the mystique surrounding Security Clearances. However, most importantly, I would suggest that David Minster discuss with his counterpart at FEMA/DHS, the type and level of clearance a potential ARRL employee might require in this position so as to be able to fully participate in all FEMA/DHS events as required.
73 and best regards to all,
Dave, K2DP
Dave Propper, K2DP ARRL Midwest Division Vice Director 314-225-5167
On Aug 12, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Fred Hopengarten <hopengarten@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
I agree with the language proposed by CT counsel.
“Able to be credentialed by our served agencies” is not discrimination based on national origin. Examples: Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger (born German), and Madeline Albright (born Czech). Martin Indyk-Pres. Obama’s Middle East Envoy and twice US Ambassador to Israel - he and I share common great grandparents, (born British, with parents from Poland). There are many examples of foreign nationals who obtain security clearances.
-Fred K1VR
From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of Dale Williams Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:16 AM To: Minster, David NA2AA (CEO); arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:32669] Re: EmComm Director - requirements issue
David,
I truly agree with Director Norris,
In my own experience with my local county government and the appointments I hold there, and with my term as SEC while operating from the Michigan State EOC, I was by the very nature of being present, exposed to discussions that were restricted to those in attendance who were US citizens with background checks.
The same holds true today, while I may not necessarily be a party to the specific discussion, as a committee member, I am in the room while others hold those conversations.
US citizenship is entirely appropriate for the position of EMCOMM Director. That person will certainly be attending meetings where the topics are of a very sensitive nature.
73,
Dale Williams WA8EFK Director Great Lakes Division
On 8/11/2021 5:45 PM, Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) wrote:
This is a follow-up to the posting about the search we are doing for the Director, Emergency Management.
In the posting, a requirement listed was for US Citizenship. I received emails within minutes from 2 Directors concerned about this requirement.
I will be rewording the requirement, but I have worked with CT counsel and here’s the short of it:
It is not illegal to require US Citizenship for a position The requirement must be tied to a legitimate reason or cause The reason or cause must be documentable and defendable
My assessment was confirmed by counsel. The reasoning is this:
The first two served agencies examined (FEMA, DHS) -REQUIRE- US Citizenship for employment. Although there are “rare exceptions”, they require citizenship. These requirements are public and well documented. It is not unreasonable to expect that our EmComm Director, in order to attend meetings of a sensitive nature or clearance, would be held to the same standards. It is not unreasonable to expect that if our EmComm Director did not meet these standards, these agencies could quietly or overtly exclude ARRL from those meetings.
It is my intention to add the following language to the job description after having passed it through counsel:
“Must be able to be credentialed by our served agencies, who may require US Citizenship and an FBI background check.”
If you have an issue with this, please contact me directly, ASAP.
Thanks.
David
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Clearly, the authority to hire and fire employees rests with the CEO. It is an executive function. I appreciate his candor and notification of postings to us, but this is yet another of the hundreds of decisions that he has made - most outside our visibility - that are reasoned and appropriate. I encourage all of my colleagues to allow Mr. Minster to continue to do his job and remember the old adage, "praise in public, criticize in private." It turns out that immigrants who are permanent residents are routinely granted TS and above security clearances. Some international students are admitted to the US service academies and OCS programs and are cleared to the TS-SCI level and are trained as officers identically to US appointees. If you are involved in hiring elsewhere, I suggest you read the Department of Justice's Best Practices for Recruiting and Hiring at https://www.justice.gov/crt/best-practices-recruiting-and-hiring-workers Lest you believe this page has changed due to political winds, you'll see at the bottom of the page that the DOJ page was last updated in January, 2019, likely by career staff. Mickey Baker, N4MB Director, Southeastern Division ARRL Phone: 561 320-2775 Email: n4mb@arrl.org
I support your view, Mickey. Well said. Lot's of people trusted their instincts when Mr. Minster was hired. Now it's time that we trust them enough to trust him. 73, Art Arthur I. Zygielbaum, K0AIZ ARRL Midwest Division Director ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio® On 8/12/2021 11:14 AM, Baker, Mickey, N4MB (Dir, SE) wrote:
Clearly, the authority to hire and fire employees rests with the CEO. It is an executive function.
I appreciate his candor and notification of postings to us, but this is yet another of the hundreds of decisions that he has made – most outside our visibility – that are reasoned and appropriate.
I encourage all of my colleagues to allow Mr. Minster to continue to do his job and remember the old adage, “praise in public, criticize in private.”
It turns out that immigrants who are permanent residents are routinely granted TS and above security clearances. Some international students are admitted to the US service academies and OCS programs and are cleared to the TS-SCI level and are trained as officers identically to US appointees.
If you are involved in hiring elsewhere, I suggest you read the Department of Justice’s /Best Practices for Recruiting and Hiring/ at https://www.justice.gov/crt/best-practices-recruiting-and-hiring-workers <https://www.justice.gov/crt/best-practices-recruiting-and-hiring-workers>
Lest you believe this page has changed due to political winds, you’ll see at the bottom of the page that the DOJ page was last updated in January, 2019, likely by career staff.
*Mickey Baker, N4MB*
Director, Southeastern Division
ARRL
Phone: 561 320-2775
Email: n4mb@arrl.org
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Arthur I. Zygielbaum, K0AIZ -
Baker, Mickey, N4MB (Dir, SE) -
Dale Williams -
David Norris -
David Propper -
Fred Hopengarten -
John Robert Stratton -
Michael Ritz -
Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) -
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