[arrl-odv:31781] Good Morning America newsbit
This apparently aired this morning on GMA, by Martha Radditz. Copied from a MyARRLVoice post. 73; Mike W7VO
Well, if it’s on the internet – especially My ARRL Voice – it must be true. From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Michael Ritz Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 2:45 PM To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:31781] Good Morning America newsbit This apparently aired this morning on GMA, by Martha Radditz. Copied from a MyARRLVoice post. 73; Mike W7VO
There is a bit of truth to them using amateur radios. Oathkeeper groups have a comms plan that recommends buying ham equipment. Like this one: http://indianaoathkeepers.org/assets/1_recommendedequipment_092920.pdf Ria N2RJ On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 2:44 PM Michael Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net> wrote:
This apparently aired this morning on GMA, by Martha Radditz. Copied from a MyARRLVoice post.
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The name listed on the Indiana Oathkeepers announcement about what radios to buy is Walter Huyck and he ppears to be the “Comms Coordinator for the Indiana group. Turns out there on QRZ.com Walter Huyck W9KJO listed as living in Terra Haute, Indiana. He is a league member. Rod W6ROD From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> on behalf of "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com> Date: Monday, January 18, 2021 at 12:19 PM To: Michael Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net> Cc: "arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org" <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:31783] Re: Good Morning America newsbit There is a bit of truth to them using amateur radios. Oathkeeper groups have a comms plan that recommends buying ham equipment. Like this one: http://indianaoathkeepers.org/assets/1_recommendedequipment_092920.pdf Ria N2RJ On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 2:44 PM Michael Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net> wrote: This apparently aired this morning on GMA, by Martha Radditz. Copied from a MyARRLVoice post. 73; Mike W7VO _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
I would guess that you are correct given his tweets (@W9KJO) <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiblv6yrKbuAhV0GFkFHUG3Du84FBAWMAN6BAgBEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fw9kjo&usg=AOvVaw2n0T1FRTo_MQwdcZ0JaCWi> Walter D Huyck Jr (@W9KJO) | Twitter<https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiblv6yrKbuAhV0GFkFHUG3Du84FBAWMAN6BAgBEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fw9kjo&usg=AOvVaw2n0T1FRTo_MQwdcZ0JaCWi> twitter.com › ...<https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiblv6yrKbuAhV0GFkFHUG3Du84FBAWMAN6BAgBEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fw9kjo&usg=AOvVaw2n0T1FRTo_MQwdcZ0JaCWi> The latest Tweets from Walter D Huyck Jr (@W9KJO): "So tired of the fake news. We need true journalist and news in America again #FakeNews" 73, Dave From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> on behalf of Rodney Stafford <w6rod@comcast.net> Date: Monday, January 18, 2021 at 3:38 PM To: "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com>, Michael Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net> Cc: "arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org" <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:31784] Re: Good Morning America newsbit The name listed on the Indiana Oathkeepers announcement about what radios to buy is Walter Huyck and he ppears to be the “Comms Coordinator for the Indiana group. Turns out there on QRZ.com Walter Huyck W9KJO listed as living in Terra Haute, Indiana. He is a league member. Rod W6ROD From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> on behalf of "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com> Date: Monday, January 18, 2021 at 12:19 PM To: Michael Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net> Cc: "arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org" <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:31783] Re: Good Morning America newsbit There is a bit of truth to them using amateur radios. Oathkeeper groups have a comms plan that recommends buying ham equipment. Like this one: http://indianaoathkeepers.org/assets/1_recommendedequipment_092920.pdf Ria N2RJ On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 2:44 PM Michael Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net<mailto:w7vo@comcast.net>> wrote: This apparently aired this morning on GMA, by Martha Radditz. Copied from a MyARRLVoice post. 73; Mike W7VO _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
The fact that "Oathkeepers" have a comms plan that "recommends" buying ham equipment is NOT evidence that there were either licensees assisting the crowd or that non-licensees were operating illegally on amateur radio assigned frequencies. It is irresponsible to — without any evidence — to publicly "admit"/"concede" that either licensees or non-licensees were involved. It is damage that no amount of PR can undo. If evidence — hard, provable evidence — emerges, then we can deal with it. But throwing amateur radio under the bus by the use of flippant and careless language should cease. Huyck's recommendations are not evidence; stupid and perhaps actionable by the ARRL, but the blatherings of a disturbed person are not evidence. ______________________________________ John Robert Stratton N5AUS Director West Gulf Division Office:512-445-6262 Cell:512-426-2028 P.O. Box 2232 Austin, Texas 78768-2232 *______________________________________* On 1/18/21 2:18 PM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:
There is a bit of truth to them using amateur radios. Oathkeeper groups have a comms plan that recommends buying ham equipment.
Like this one:
http://indianaoathkeepers.org/assets/1_recommendedequipment_092920.pdf <http://indianaoathkeepers.org/assets/1_recommendedequipment_092920.pdf>
Ria N2RJ
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 2:44 PM Michael Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net <mailto:w7vo@comcast.net>> wrote:
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Good points. This topic makes me as uncomfortable as it does, I'm sure, everyone else. How can we find out how big a problem this all is? Can we develop an approach (or should we) to contact hams, especially members, who are recommending the illegal use of ham radio? Or are we stuck just biting our fingernails? 73, Art Arthur I. Zygielbaum, K0AIZ ARRL Midwest Division Director On 1/18/2021 2:55 PM, John Robert Stratton wrote:
The fact that "Oathkeepers" have a comms plan that "recommends" buying ham equipment is NOT evidence that there were either licensees assisting the crowd or that non-licensees were operating illegally on amateur radio assigned frequencies.
It is irresponsible to — without any evidence — to publicly "admit"/"concede" that either licensees or non-licensees were involved. It is damage that no amount of PR can undo. If evidence — hard, provable evidence — emerges, then we can deal with it.
But throwing amateur radio under the bus by the use of flippant and careless language should cease.
Huyck's recommendations are not evidence; stupid and perhaps actionable by the ARRL, but the blatherings of a disturbed person are not evidence.
______________________________________
John Robert Stratton
N5AUS
Director
West Gulf Division
Office:512-445-6262
Cell:512-426-2028
P.O. Box 2232
Austin, Texas 78768-2232
*______________________________________*
On 1/18/21 2:18 PM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:
There is a bit of truth to them using amateur radios. Oathkeeper groups have a comms plan that recommends buying ham equipment.
Like this one:
http://indianaoathkeepers.org/assets/1_recommendedequipment_092920.pdf <http://indianaoathkeepers.org/assets/1_recommendedequipment_092920.pdf>
Ria N2RJ
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This isn’t a definitive statement that they are using amateur frequencies. It is definitive that they are using amateur radios - radios commonly used in the amateur radio service. The numerous posts on Parler and other social media proudly showing baofengs and other radios commonly being used are proof positive that these radios were being used. Being associated with oathkeepers and their sympathizers is not comforting in the least. While we shouldn’t put out a statement, it is prudent to not associate with them. Ria N2RJ On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:55 PM John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> wrote:
The fact that "Oathkeepers" have a comms plan that "recommends" buying ham equipment is NOT evidence that there were either licensees assisting the crowd or that non-licensees were operating illegally on amateur radio assigned frequencies.
It is irresponsible to — without any evidence — to publicly "admit"/"concede" that either licensees or non-licensees were involved. It is damage that no amount of PR can undo. If evidence — hard, provable evidence — emerges, then we can deal with it.
But throwing amateur radio under the bus by the use of flippant and careless language should cease.
Huyck's recommendations are not evidence; stupid and perhaps actionable by the ARRL, but the blatherings of a disturbed person are not evidence.
______________________________________
John Robert Stratton
N5AUS
Director
West Gulf Division
Office: 512-445-6262
Cell: 512-426-2028
P.O. Box 2232
Austin, Texas 78768-2232
*______________________________________* On 1/18/21 2:18 PM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:
There is a bit of truth to them using amateur radios. Oathkeeper groups have a comms plan that recommends buying ham equipment.
Like this one:
http://indianaoathkeepers.org/assets/1_recommendedequipment_092920.pdf
Ria N2RJ
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 2:44 PM Michael Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net> wrote:
This apparently aired this morning on GMA, by Martha Radditz. Copied from a MyARRLVoice post.
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The "s" is the klinker. "Ham radios" does not have the same meaning as "Ham radio". Few, if any, in the media or public will understand the difference. Mark, HDX On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 1:50 PM rjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com> wrote:
This isn’t a definitive statement that they are using amateur frequencies. It is definitive that they are using amateur radios - radios commonly used in the amateur radio service.
The numerous posts on Parler and other social media proudly showing baofengs and other radios commonly being used are proof positive that these radios were being used.
Being associated with oathkeepers and their sympathizers is not comforting in the least. While we shouldn’t put out a statement, it is prudent to not associate with them.
Ria N2RJ
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:55 PM John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com> wrote:
The fact that "Oathkeepers" have a comms plan that "recommends" buying ham equipment is NOT evidence that there were either licensees assisting the crowd or that non-licensees were operating illegally on amateur radio assigned frequencies.
It is irresponsible to — without any evidence — to publicly "admit"/"concede" that either licensees or non-licensees were involved. It is damage that no amount of PR can undo. If evidence — hard, provable evidence — emerges, then we can deal with it.
But throwing amateur radio under the bus by the use of flippant and careless language should cease.
Huyck's recommendations are not evidence; stupid and perhaps actionable by the ARRL, but the blatherings of a disturbed person are not evidence.
______________________________________
John Robert Stratton
N5AUS
Director
West Gulf Division
Office: 512-445-6262
Cell: 512-426-2028
P.O. Box 2232
Austin, Texas 78768-2232
*______________________________________* On 1/18/21 2:18 PM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:
There is a bit of truth to them using amateur radios. Oathkeeper groups have a comms plan that recommends buying ham equipment.
Like this one:
http://indianaoathkeepers.org/assets/1_recommendedequipment_092920.pdf
Ria N2RJ
On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 2:44 PM Michael Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net> wrote:
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Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) -
rjairam＠gmail.com -
Rodney Stafford