Tom, I'm open to any specific suggestions you have. If I left you (and anyone else) with the impression that I only think we should use or web site then I did not get my point across. As I said in my general response to Karl's post, I firmly believe we can do better and we must work to that end. That includes using everything possible and a variety of media and means and you have my commitment to fully support and participate in whatever we decide to pursue. I do not, however, believe that should include confronting the people that rant in the chat rooms directly in the chat rooms. That was the point I was trying to get across. We can see who the people are that get involved in the chat rooms and I would encourage the Directors to engage in some one-on-one conversation with those members from their division....some "grassroots" effort if you will, to help resolve any issues a person may have. I think the "local" touch would go a long way. If you and Andy want to jump in to the chat rooms you're welcome to do so, I don't have a problem with you doing so, I just believe there is a better use of our time and talents in more effective areas. 73 Joel W5ZN -----Original Message----- From: Tom Frenaye [mailto:frenaye@pcnet.com] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:46 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: [arrl-odv:15495] RE: [arrl-odv:15492] RE: [arrl-odv:15485] Interesting Poll on 11306 At 09:29 PM 4/28/2007, Joel Harrison wrote:

They already know what we post on our web site, Andy. They visit our website daily and look at the posts and make reference to them.

The guys in the chat rooms see our posts. We just need to stay focused and get our factual message and educational material out via our medium.

I completely agree with Andy, not Joel, on this one. We need to look beyond our own web site. One of the reasons we're in such a bad situation on the bandwidth issue is because we're too ivory tower. We have to risk something by trying to use all of the options we have available. Why would the ARRL be different than any other company? The others understand the value of advertising and use many outlets. I hope we'll be using some PR expertise in our self-evaluation - we have a PR manager and an incredibly talented PR Committee. From what I've seen they haven't been involved in any part of the process with the bandwidth issue. -- Tom ===== e-mail: k1ki@arrl.org ARRL New England Division Director http://www.arrl.org/ Tom Frenaye, K1KI, P O Box J, West Suffield CT 06093 Phone: 860-668-5444