[arrl-odv:17561] Re: Hamfest Coupons Policy
Nice looking certificate. Shouldn't the certificates have an Award Code printed on them? Where do they find the Award Code? The fine print states, "Redeem online at by entering the Award Code during checkout," There should be an expiration date listed. One year is acceptable. There will be hundreds of certificates issued each year. What if folks hold on to them until a new book comes out, this could be three, five or ten years later? Looks like this would generate an accounting problem that increase each year. The accountants would need to account for Hamfest certificate value that may be claimed in the books. 73, Greg Sarratt, W4OZK Quoting "Kramer, Harold, WJ1B" <wj1b@arrl.org>:
Since you asked,
Here is the answer to Joyce's questions. ( I had sent a copy of this response directly to Joyce yesterday)
I have also attached pdfs of the certificates.
Harold
Harold Kramer, WJ1B
Chief Operating Officer
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
860 594 0220
hkramer@arrl.org
From: Kramer, Harold, WJ1B Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:39 PM To: Birmingham, Joyce ( Vice Dir HU) Subject: FW: My reply to Hamfest Coupons Policy
Joyce,
1. First, shipping is free.
2. What about the following:
Joe goes to a hamfest and wins a $50.00 gift certificate....Joe wants to order:
2 ARES FIELD RESOURCES MANUAL - $12.95 each = $25.90
1 Emergency Communications Handbook - $19.95 each
Total of all 3 publications = $45.85
How are you going to account for the $4.15 variance on order and to the recipient (prize winner). Few, if any items, would be able to be combined, I feel, into a 'round' number equal to $25.00 or $50.00. Would you require them to pay for any overage, as well if the order happened to go over by a few dollars?
Here's Jackie's response:
From: Cornell,Jacqueline, KB1PWB Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 11:51 AM To: Kramer, Harold, WJ1B; Inderbitzen, Bob, NQ1R Subject: RE: My reply to Hamfest Coupons Policy
Harold,
People who do go over the $25 or $50 certificate amount, will not be required to pay shipping on the order, but will need to pay the difference. Like any other retailer, if you've purchased more than the value of a certificate when you redeem it, you pay the difference. For example, if someone buys a hardcover Handbook at $59.95, they owe $9.95 after the certificate is redeemed.
The certificates are valid for one transaction only. Since this is a promotion through ARRL the certificates are subject to our terms, therefore it is completely legal. This is included in the limits and exclusions on the bottom of the certificate.
Thanks. Jackie
Greg, 1. There will be a unique code printed on them as I explained previously. 2. The codes are randomly generated by a computer program created by Jon Bloom. 3. Connecticut State Law says that we cannot put an expiration date on a gift certificate. 4. As far as accounting issues, we are developing a methodology for tracking issuance and redemption of the certificates. 73, Harold Harold Kramer, WJ1B Chief Operating Officer ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio 860 594 0220 hkramer@arrl.org -----Original Message----- From: Greg Sarratt [mailto:w4ozk@arrl.org] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:16 PM To: Kramer, Harold, WJ1B Cc: arrl-odv Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:17559] Hamfest Coupons Policy Nice looking certificate. Shouldn't the certificates have an Award Code printed on them? Where do they find the Award Code? The fine print states, "Redeem online at by entering the Award Code during checkout," There should be an expiration date listed. One year is acceptable. There will be hundreds of certificates issued each year. What if folks hold on to them until a new book comes out, this could be three, five or ten years later? Looks like this would generate an accounting problem that increase each year. The accountants would need to account for Hamfest certificate value that may be claimed in the books. 73, Greg Sarratt, W4OZK Quoting "Kramer, Harold, WJ1B" <wj1b@arrl.org>:
Since you asked,
Here is the answer to Joyce's questions. ( I had sent a copy of this response directly to Joyce yesterday)
I have also attached pdfs of the certificates.
Harold
Harold Kramer, WJ1B
Chief Operating Officer
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
860 594 0220
hkramer@arrl.org
From: Kramer, Harold, WJ1B Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:39 PM To: Birmingham, Joyce ( Vice Dir HU) Subject: FW: My reply to Hamfest Coupons Policy
Joyce,
1. First, shipping is free.
2. What about the following:
Joe goes to a hamfest and wins a $50.00 gift certificate....Joe wants to order:
2 ARES FIELD RESOURCES MANUAL - $12.95 each = $25.90
1 Emergency Communications Handbook - $19.95 each
Total of all 3 publications = $45.85
How are you going to account for the $4.15 variance on order and to the recipient (prize winner). Few, if any items, would be able to be combined, I feel, into a 'round' number equal to $25.00 or $50.00. Would you require them to pay for any overage, as well if the order happened to go over by a few dollars?
Here's Jackie's response:
From: Cornell,Jacqueline, KB1PWB Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 11:51 AM To: Kramer, Harold, WJ1B; Inderbitzen, Bob, NQ1R Subject: RE: My reply to Hamfest Coupons Policy
Harold,
People who do go over the $25 or $50 certificate amount, will not be required to pay shipping on the order, but will need to pay the difference. Like any other retailer, if you've purchased more than the value of a certificate when you redeem it, you pay the difference. For example, if someone buys a hardcover Handbook at $59.95, they owe $9.95 after the certificate is redeemed.
The certificates are valid for one transaction only. Since this is a promotion through ARRL the certificates are subject to our terms, therefore it is completely legal. This is included in the limits and exclusions on the bottom of the certificate.
Thanks. Jackie
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