[arrl-odv:33654] Problem With ARRL.net Forwarding
There is a problem with ARRL.net forwarding. See below. 73, Dick, N6AA Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com" <MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com> To: "richardjnorton@yahoo.com" <richardjnorton@yahoo.com> Cc: Sent: Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 4:33 PM Subject: Failure Notice Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. <n6tv@arrl.net>: 550: 5.1.1 <n6tv@arrl.net>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Qwertyuiop Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
I’m getting a number of emails about this. Can we get a status update? On Apr 16, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Richard Norton via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>> wrote: There is a problem with ARRL.net<http://ARRL.net> forwarding. See below. 73, Dick, N6AA Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com<mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com>" <MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com<mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com>> To: "richardjnorton@yahoo.com<mailto:richardjnorton@yahoo.com>" <richardjnorton@yahoo.com<mailto:richardjnorton@yahoo.com>> Cc: Sent: Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 4:33 PM Subject: Failure Notice Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. <n6tv@arrl.net<mailto:n6tv@arrl.net>>: 550: 5.1.1 <n6tv@arrl.net<mailto:n6tv@arrl.net>>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Qwertyuiop Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv -Kristen (K6WX) "Your eyes ... it's a day's work just looking into them" Laurie Anderson (--... ...-- -.. . -.- -.... .-- -..-)
There is no status update, per se’ We struggle with downstream post offices along the way all the time marking us as spam creators given what is being aliased through arrl.net. With the one example Dick provided we are having an in-depth conversation with the vendor to see what the deal is with this particular account. Jim will also broaden the discussion to other potential error causes such as server timeouts and non-deliverable messages which again are sourced at the server level. Frankly, arrl.net is a remarkable time sink for this organization that shows very little benefit compared to what its original intent was. And when it was created, there was little to no anti-spam engines on mail servers auto blacklisting sites or domain alias servers. It was simple to implement and move on from. Stay tuned. David From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Kristen McIntyre Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 3:11 PM To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:33655] Re: Problem With ARRL.net Forwarding I’m getting a number of emails about this. Can we get a status update? On Apr 16, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Richard Norton via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>> wrote: There is a problem with ARRL.net<http://ARRL.net> forwarding. See below. 73, Dick, N6AA Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com<mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com>" <MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com<mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com>> To: "richardjnorton@yahoo.com<mailto:richardjnorton@yahoo.com>" <richardjnorton@yahoo.com<mailto:richardjnorton@yahoo.com>> Cc: Sent: Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 4:33 PM Subject: Failure Notice Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. <n6tv@arrl.net<mailto:n6tv@arrl.net>>: 550: 5.1.1 <n6tv@arrl.net<mailto:n6tv@arrl.net>>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Qwertyuiop Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv -Kristen (K6WX) "Your eyes ... it's a day's work just looking into them" Laurie Anderson (--... ...-- -.. . -.- -.... .-- -..-)
Thanks for the update David. In this particular case we are getting error 550, which generally means that we got put on an RBL blacklist. It might be worth getting a monitor going with MXToolbox so that we can be more proactive. I think you have to pay for some level of service to get realtime monitoring. According to them, arrl.net<http://arrl.net> is not currently on a blacklist. It may take some time for removals to propagate. https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3aarrl.net&run=toolpag... I certainly understand the cost benefit. One of my emails was from N6TV, who is operating his business using that alias. That seems dicey to me, but there you go. There is an implicit expectation of service out there, apparently. On Apr 18, 2022, at 12:48 PM, Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) <dminster@arrl.org<mailto:dminster@arrl.org>> wrote: There is no status update, per se’ We struggle with downstream post offices along the way all the time marking us as spam creators given what is being aliased through arrl.net<http://arrl.net/>. With the one example Dick provided we are having an in-depth conversation with the vendor to see what the deal is with this particular account. Jim will also broaden the discussion to other potential error causes such as server timeouts and non-deliverable messages which again are sourced at the server level. Frankly, arrl.net<http://arrl.net/> is a remarkable time sink for this organization that shows very little benefit compared to what its original intent was. And when it was created, there was little to no anti-spam engines on mail servers auto blacklisting sites or domain alias servers. It was simple to implement and move on from. Stay tuned. David From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org>> On Behalf Of Kristen McIntyre Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 3:11 PM To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@arrl.org>> Subject: [arrl-odv:33655] Re: Problem With ARRL.net<http://ARRL.net> Forwarding I’m getting a number of emails about this. Can we get a status update? On Apr 16, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Richard Norton via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>> wrote: There is a problem with ARRL.net<http://arrl.net/> forwarding. See below. 73, Dick, N6AA Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com<mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com>" <MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com<mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com>> To: "richardjnorton@yahoo.com<mailto:richardjnorton@yahoo.com>" <richardjnorton@yahoo.com<mailto:richardjnorton@yahoo.com>> Cc: Sent: Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 4:33 PM Subject: Failure Notice Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. <n6tv@arrl.net<mailto:n6tv@arrl.net>>: 550: 5.1.1 <n6tv@arrl.net<mailto:n6tv@arrl.net>>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Qwertyuiop Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv -Kristen (K6WX) "Your eyes ... it's a day's work just looking into them" Laurie Anderson (--... ...-- -.. . -.- -.... .-- -..-) -Kristen (K6WX) "Your eyes ... it's a day's work just looking into them" Laurie Anderson (--... ...-- -.. . -.- -.... .-- -..-)
My arrl.net address has been fully functional. Getting spotty failure reports from this area. 73, - Dale WA8EFK On 4/18/2022 3:48 PM, Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) wrote:
There is no status update, per se’
We struggle with downstream post offices along the way all the time marking us as spam creators given what is being aliased through arrl.net.
With the one example Dick provided we are having an in-depth conversation with the vendor to see what the deal is with this particular account. Jim will also broaden the discussion to other potential error causes such as server timeouts and non-deliverable messages which again are sourced at the server level.
Frankly, arrl.net is a remarkable time sink for this organization that shows very little benefit compared to what its original intent was. And when it was created, there was little to no anti-spam engines on mail servers auto blacklisting sites or domain alias servers. It was simple to implement and move on from.
Stay tuned.
David
*From:* arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> *On Behalf Of *Kristen McIntyre *Sent:* Monday, April 18, 2022 3:11 PM *To:* arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> *Subject:* [arrl-odv:33655] Re: Problem With ARRL.net Forwarding
I’m getting a number of emails about this. Can we get a status update?
On Apr 16, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Richard Norton via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote:
There is a problem with ARRL.net <http://ARRL.net> forwarding.
See below.
73,
Dick, N6AA
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
----- Forwarded Message -----
*From:*"MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com" <MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com>
*To:*"richardjnorton@yahoo.com" <richardjnorton@yahoo.com>
*Cc:*
*Sent:*Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 4:33 PM
*Subject:*Failure Notice
Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address.
<n6tv@arrl.net>:
550: 5.1.1 <n6tv@arrl.net>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Qwertyuiop
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
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"Your eyes ... it's a day's work just looking into them" Laurie Anderson
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I just tried and it’s still happening. [Image.jpeg] ________________________________ From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> on behalf of Kristen McIntyre <kristen@alum.mit.edu> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 3:11:08 PM To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:33655] Re: Problem With ARRL.net Forwarding I’m getting a number of emails about this. Can we get a status update? On Apr 16, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Richard Norton via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>> wrote: There is a problem with ARRL.net<http://ARRL.net> forwarding. See below. 73, Dick, N6AA Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com<mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com>" <MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com<mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com>> To: "richardjnorton@yahoo.com<mailto:richardjnorton@yahoo.com>" <richardjnorton@yahoo.com<mailto:richardjnorton@yahoo.com>> Cc: Sent: Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 4:33 PM Subject: Failure Notice Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. <n6tv@arrl.net<mailto:n6tv@arrl.net>>: 550: 5.1.1 <n6tv@arrl.net<mailto:n6tv@arrl.net>>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Qwertyuiop Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv -Kristen (K6WX) "Your eyes ... it's a day's work just looking into them" Laurie Anderson (--... ...-- -.. . -.- -.... .-- -..-)
participants (5)
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Dale Williams -
Jairam, Ria, N2RJ (Dir, HD) -
Kristen McIntyre -
Minster, David NA2AA (CEO) -
Richard Norton