Not sure if the ODV reflector is down, so I will resend my note. Sorry if there is duplication. '73 de JIM N2ZZ ARRL Vice Director Roanoke Division ARRL, the national association for Amateur RadioT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Being a recent SM (well, about a year ago), I think I see the concern. On the previous website, doing appointments was very easy. The website knew who you were (SM), and what section you were from. The appointments were in a "drop down box". All I had to do was pick the appointment from a drop-down box and put in the call of the appointee. The member database was queried, and member data was displayed. In fact, it would also tell you if the prospective appointee's membership had lapsed-so that you could stop the processing at that point. It would then let you know if the prospective appointee held that position, and give an option to appoint (if not already an appointee) or cancel the appointment. Two or three "clicks" and you were done. The data was then automatically sent to Leona/Steve for entry into the ARRL (Siebel) system. Now I see that the process to add or delete an appointee is much like the old postcard system, just with no stamp needed. So, it is true that the functionality of adding/deleting appointees has decreased. I polled our Division SM's. Of the two that responded, one would deal directly with Leona, and the other fills out the top two and bottom two lines of the web form and submits it to Leona. So, I mention this as an observation. I was very impressed with the functionality of doing appointments with the previous website. This one is functional, but not quite as elegant. The difference is invisible to us and the members, but not to the SM's. '73 de JIM N2ZZ ARRL Vice Director Roanoke Division ARRL, the national association for Amateur RadioT