[arrl-odv:29884] FW: [yccc] RSGB suspends multi-op contesting for COVID-19
-----Original Message----- From: yccc@groups.io [mailto:yccc@groups.io] On Behalf Of KA1R Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 10:55 AM To: yccc@groups.io Subject: [yccc] RSGB suspends multi-op contesting for COVID-19 This was recently announced (maybe yesterday): https://www.rsgbcc.org/cv19.shtml I think the main message is that some contest sponsors are risk-averse and might suddenly change rules in an attempt to "help" with COVID-19, or comply with their own interpretations of government edicts. So, rechecking any contest sponsor's web site on the day before a contest might be a good idea now. I asked the WPX contest director but haven't heard back yet. A change of "we will no longer accept multi-operator contest entries" most likely means that the category is eliminated, and you can't work around it by having remote operators at home. (Or, as once happened in YCCC history, a multi-op from two separate homes that were inside a 500-meter circle even though they weren't on the same street.) And, of course, even if most contests' rules remain the same, choosing to do a home multi-op or portable multi-op (or even multi-op mobile in a QSO Party) might mean that nobody would be competing against you. Matt, KA1R -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
While I personally think that RSGB's action is slightly over-kill since there are quite a few remote stations that can be operated in multi-operator style, at least here in this country, it is the safest option and we all know that some hams are crazy. In any event, the thought is well-placed and timely. I believe that ARRL is faced with this issue only in June: June 13-15 VHF contest in which multi-operator, including rover, operations are permitted; then the BIG ONE, Field Day June 27-28; and IARU multi-operator entries for July 11-12. While perhaps it is to early to make a definitive decision(s), it would be good for someone to work out options and pros/cons. Especially for Field Day. I'm guessing that ARRL should wait a bit to have a better idea of what the COVID-19 situation may be in June and July before announcing anything. But it's never too early to have options and a plan that would only be public and effective at later date closer to the activity of concern. 73 & QWH, Dave On 3/20/20, 11:55 AM, "arrl-odv on behalf of hopengarten@post.harvard.edu" <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org on behalf of hopengarten@post.harvard.edu> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: yccc@groups.io [mailto:yccc@groups.io] On Behalf Of KA1R Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 10:55 AM To: yccc@groups.io Subject: [yccc] RSGB suspends multi-op contesting for COVID-19 This was recently announced (maybe yesterday): https://www.rsgbcc.org/cv19.shtml I think the main message is that some contest sponsors are risk-averse and might suddenly change rules in an attempt to "help" with COVID-19, or comply with their own interpretations of government edicts. So, rechecking any contest sponsor's web site on the day before a contest might be a good idea now. I asked the WPX contest director but haven't heard back yet. A change of "we will no longer accept multi-operator contest entries" most likely means that the category is eliminated, and you can't work around it by having remote operators at home. (Or, as once happened in YCCC history, a multi-op from two separate homes that were inside a 500-meter circle even though they weren't on the same street.) And, of course, even if most contests' rules remain the same, choosing to do a home multi-op or portable multi-op (or even multi-op mobile in a QSO Party) might mean that nobody would be competing against you. Matt, KA1R -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
Good point, David, and something we all need to be thinking about. Somewhat related, recently Kermit and I had a member rather vocal about his concerns with state QSO parties and participation by mobile operations, which as you know is a big feature of state QSO parties. 73Rick - K5UR -----Original Message----- From: david davidsiddall-law. com <david@davidsiddall-law.com> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Cc: hopengarten@post.harvard.edu <hopengarten@post.harvard.edu> Sent: Fri, Mar 20, 2020 11:30 am Subject: [arrl-odv:29888] Re: FW: [yccc] RSGB suspends multi-op contesting for COVID-19 While I personally think that RSGB's action is slightly over-kill since there are quite a few remote stations that can be operated in multi-operator style, at least here in this country, it is the safest option and we all know that some hams are crazy. In any event, the thought is well-placed and timely. I believe that ARRL is faced with this issue only in June: June 13-15 VHF contest in which multi-operator, including rover, operations are permitted; then the BIG ONE, Field Day June 27-28; and IARU multi-operator entries for July 11-12. While perhaps it is to early to make a definitive decision(s), it would be good for someone to work out options and pros/cons. Especially for Field Day. I'm guessing that ARRL should wait a bit to have a better idea of what the COVID-19 situation may be in June and July before announcing anything. But it's never too early to have options and a plan that would only be public and effective at later date closer to the activity of concern. 73 & QWH, Dave On 3/20/20, 11:55 AM, "arrl-odv on behalf of hopengarten@post.harvard.edu" <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org on behalf of hopengarten@post.harvard.edu> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: yccc@groups.io [mailto:yccc@groups.io] On Behalf Of KA1R Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 10:55 AM To: yccc@groups.io Subject: [yccc] RSGB suspends multi-op contesting for COVID-19 This was recently announced (maybe yesterday): https://www.rsgbcc.org/cv19.shtml I think the main message is that some contest sponsors are risk-averse and might suddenly change rules in an attempt to "help" with COVID-19, or comply with their own interpretations of government edicts. So, rechecking any contest sponsor's web site on the day before a contest might be a good idea now. I asked the WPX contest director but haven't heard back yet. A change of "we will no longer accept multi-operator contest entries" most likely means that the category is eliminated, and you can't work around it by having remote operators at home. (Or, as once happened in YCCC history, a multi-op from two separate homes that were inside a 500-meter circle even though they weren't on the same street.) And, of course, even if most contests' rules remain the same, choosing to do a home multi-op or portable multi-op (or even multi-op mobile in a QSO Party) might mean that nobody would be competing against you. Matt, KA1R -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv _______________________________________________ arrl-odv mailing list arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org https://reflector.arrl.org/mailman/listinfo/arrl-odv
Right, one driver and one operator. Had not thought about that until you just wrote that. 6 feet apart is hard to do in a car. We are fully expecting our Governor to follow California here in Washington. Time will tell, but we are planning for it. I still need SC on 80, ME on 40 and MT on 15 for 5BWAS. Perhaps I'll get two weeks off to work on that. :) Mark, HDX On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 9:42 AM Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv < arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote:
Good point, David, and something we all need to be thinking about.
Somewhat related, recently Kermit and I had a member rather vocal about his concerns with state QSO parties and participation by mobile operations, which as you know is a big feature of state QSO parties.
73 Rick - K5UR
-----Original Message----- From: david davidsiddall-law. com <david@davidsiddall-law.com> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Cc: hopengarten@post.harvard.edu <hopengarten@post.harvard.edu> Sent: Fri, Mar 20, 2020 11:30 am Subject: [arrl-odv:29888] Re: FW: [yccc] RSGB suspends multi-op contesting for COVID-19
While I personally think that RSGB's action is slightly over-kill since there are quite a few remote stations that can be operated in multi-operator style, at least here in this country, it is the safest option and we all know that some hams are crazy. In any event, the thought is well-placed and timely. I believe that ARRL is faced with this issue only in June: June 13-15 VHF contest in which multi-operator, including rover, operations are permitted; then the BIG ONE, Field Day June 27-28; and IARU multi-operator entries for July 11-12.
While perhaps it is to early to make a definitive decision(s), it would be good for someone to work out options and pros/cons. Especially for Field Day.
I'm guessing that ARRL should wait a bit to have a better idea of what the COVID-19 situation may be in June and July before announcing anything. But it's never too early to have options and a plan that would only be public and effective at later date closer to the activity of concern.
73 & QWH, Dave
On 3/20/20, 11:55 AM, "arrl-odv on behalf of hopengarten@post.harvard.edu" <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org on behalf of hopengarten@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: yccc@groups.io [mailto:yccc@groups.io] On Behalf Of KA1R Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 10:55 AM To: yccc@groups.io Subject: [yccc] RSGB suspends multi-op contesting for COVID-19
This was recently announced (maybe yesterday):
https://www.rsgbcc.org/cv19.shtml
I think the main message is that some contest sponsors are risk-averse and might suddenly change rules in an attempt to "help" with COVID-19, or comply with their own interpretations of government edicts. So, rechecking any contest sponsor's web site on the day before a contest might be a good idea now.
I asked the WPX contest director but haven't heard back yet.
A change of "we will no longer accept multi-operator contest entries" most likely means that the category is eliminated, and you can't work around it by having remote operators at home. (Or, as once happened in YCCC history, a multi-op from two separate homes that were inside a 500-meter circle even though they weren't on the same street.)
And, of course, even if most contests' rules remain the same, choosing to do a home multi-op or portable multi-op (or even multi-op mobile in a QSO Party) might mean that nobody would be competing against you.
Matt, KA1R
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Rover ops can be multi - K2EZ and I won June VHF, limited rover in 2018. Both of us were operating. After that we met up with Bart W9JJ and Steve Simons for lunch and then to HQ. With that said, a lot of members are asking about field day. I tell them that I simply don't know what we are doing about field day yet. But there is concern and there is advance planning now for June. I think limited field day ops that don't have visitors can be done. 73 Ria. N2RJ On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 12:53, Mark J Tharp <kb7hdx@gmail.com> wrote:
Right, one driver and one operator. Had not thought about that until you just wrote that. 6 feet apart is hard to do in a car.
We are fully expecting our Governor to follow California here in Washington. Time will tell, but we are planning for it.
I still need SC on 80, ME on 40 and MT on 15 for 5BWAS. Perhaps I'll get two weeks off to work on that. :)
Mark, HDX
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 9:42 AM Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote:
Good point, David, and something we all need to be thinking about.
Somewhat related, recently Kermit and I had a member rather vocal about his concerns with state QSO parties and participation by mobile operations, which as you know is a big feature of state QSO parties.
73 Rick - K5UR
-----Original Message----- From: david davidsiddall-law. com <david@davidsiddall-law.com> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Cc: hopengarten@post.harvard.edu <hopengarten@post.harvard.edu> Sent: Fri, Mar 20, 2020 11:30 am Subject: [arrl-odv:29888] Re: FW: [yccc] RSGB suspends multi-op contesting for COVID-19
While I personally think that RSGB's action is slightly over-kill since there are quite a few remote stations that can be operated in multi-operator style, at least here in this country, it is the safest option and we all know that some hams are crazy. In any event, the thought is well-placed and timely. I believe that ARRL is faced with this issue only in June: June 13-15 VHF contest in which multi-operator, including rover, operations are permitted; then the BIG ONE, Field Day June 27-28; and IARU multi-operator entries for July 11-12.
While perhaps it is to early to make a definitive decision(s), it would be good for someone to work out options and pros/cons. Especially for Field Day.
I'm guessing that ARRL should wait a bit to have a better idea of what the COVID-19 situation may be in June and July before announcing anything. But it's never too early to have options and a plan that would only be public and effective at later date closer to the activity of concern.
73 & QWH, Dave
On 3/20/20, 11:55 AM, "arrl-odv on behalf of hopengarten@post.harvard.edu" <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org on behalf of hopengarten@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: yccc@groups.io [mailto:yccc@groups.io] On Behalf Of KA1R Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 10:55 AM To: yccc@groups.io Subject: [yccc] RSGB suspends multi-op contesting for COVID-19
This was recently announced (maybe yesterday):
https://www.rsgbcc.org/cv19.shtml
I think the main message is that some contest sponsors are risk-averse and might suddenly change rules in an attempt to "help" with COVID-19, or comply with their own interpretations of government edicts. So, rechecking any contest sponsor's web site on the day before a contest might be a good idea now.
I asked the WPX contest director but haven't heard back yet.
A change of "we will no longer accept multi-operator contest entries" most likely means that the category is eliminated, and you can't work around it by having remote operators at home. (Or, as once happened in YCCC history, a multi-op from two separate homes that were inside a 500-meter circle even though they weren't on the same street.)
And, of course, even if most contests' rules remain the same, choosing to do a home multi-op or portable multi-op (or even multi-op mobile in a QSO Party) might mean that nobody would be competing against you.
Matt, KA1R
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Thanks, Fred. I'm assuming that something will come up on the contesting.com reflector should something happen. I was going to do a M/2 effort for WPX (as WW7E) next weekend, it appears I might just be doing a single-op effort. 73; Mike W7VO
On March 20, 2020 at 8:55 AM hopengarten@post.harvard.edu wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: yccc@groups.io [mailto:yccc@groups.io] On Behalf Of KA1R Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 10:55 AM To: yccc@groups.io Subject: [yccc] RSGB suspends multi-op contesting for COVID-19
This was recently announced (maybe yesterday):
https://www.rsgbcc.org/cv19.shtml
I think the main message is that some contest sponsors are risk-averse and might suddenly change rules in an attempt to "help" with COVID-19, or comply with their own interpretations of government edicts. So, rechecking any contest sponsor's web site on the day before a contest might be a good idea now.
I asked the WPX contest director but haven't heard back yet.
A change of "we will no longer accept multi-operator contest entries" most likely means that the category is eliminated, and you can't work around it by having remote operators at home. (Or, as once happened in YCCC history, a multi-op from two separate homes that were inside a 500-meter circle even though they weren't on the same street.)
And, of course, even if most contests' rules remain the same, choosing to do a home multi-op or portable multi-op (or even multi-op mobile in a QSO Party) might mean that nobody would be competing against you.
Matt, KA1R
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