Don't back down, Dwayne. These are lawyers who couldn't handle the rigors of engineering school so they opted instead for a law degree. (Inequitable cheap shot delivered...running for hard cover now...buying kevlar to wear at EC meeting in a few weeks) 73, Brian N5ZGT On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Dwayne Allen wrote:

-----Original Message----- From: Dwayne Allen <dwayne@wy7fd.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 08:17 To: John Bellows <jbellows@skypoint.com> Subject: RE: W4TV's measurments

Jay,

I see your argument. However, the rounding was thrown in just to show that it is a small amount. If the greater circle method was employed, the distance meets the requirement.

Chris and the remaining possibly offended members in the law profession,

I meant no disrespect.

WY7FD

From: John Bellows <jbellows@skypoint.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 07:22 To: 'Dwayne Allen' <dwayne@wy7fd.com> Subject: RE: W4TV's measurments

Dwayne: � First of all, I�m no engineer, just a lawyer (thankfully) but I have to wonder if rounding up is the best way to go. For example, if the span between two piers is 80 feet would a girder 79 ft 11 inches be adequate or would it be acceptable to just call it 80 feet and hope for the best. ;<) � The is forwarded in the same mode as David Norris� email. � 73, � Jay, K�QB � -----Original Message----- From: Dwayne Allen [mailto:dwayne@wy7fd.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: W4TV's measurments � Folks, � I am no lawyer (thankfully) but the following was copied from the DXCC rules. � � 2. Geographic Separation Entity � b) Island Areas (Separation by Water): � ii) The island is separated from its Parent by 350 kilometers or more, and from any other island attached to that Parent in the same or a different island group by 800 kilometers or more. � I see no instructions on the method of measurement to be employed in determining the distance between the islands or island group.� If the greater circle method was used in determining the correct distance between Saba and Bonaire, then the distance is 801 KM. ��This is clearly a case of nit-picking.� Also if one employs the scientific significant figures rules, 799.609 will round to 800 anyway. � If I am wrong, please correct me� I am used to it. . � My two cents worth.� 73, � WY7FD, Dwayne Allen Vice-Director ARRL Rocky Mountain Division

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