Sorry folks, my attempt at humor apparently missed the mark. I’m fully on board with the DXCC Desk on this. 73, Jay, KØQB -----Original Message----- From: Dwayne Allen [mailto:dwayne@wy7fd.com] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 9:30 AM To: arrl-odv Subject: FW: W4TV's measurments _____ From: Dwayne Allen <dwayne@wy7fd.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 08:17 To: John Bellows <jbellows@skypoint.com> Subject: RE: W4TV's measurments Jay, I see your argument. However, the rounding was thrown in just to show that it is a small amount. If the greater circle method was employed, the distance meets the requirement. Chris and the remaining possibly offended members in the law profession, I meant no disrespect. WY7FD _____ From: John Bellows <jbellows@skypoint.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 07:22 To: 'Dwayne Allen' <dwayne@wy7fd.com> Subject: RE: W4TV's measurments Dwayne: First of all, I’m no engineer, just a lawyer (thankfully) but I have to wonder if rounding up is the best way to go. For example, if the span between two piers is 80 feet would a girder 79 ft 11 inches be adequate or would it be acceptable to just call it 80 feet and hope for the best. ;<) The is forwarded in the same mode as David Norris’ email. 73, Jay, KØQB -----Original Message----- From: Dwayne Allen [mailto:dwayne@wy7fd.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: arrl-odv Subject: W4TV's measurments Folks, I am no lawyer (thankfully) but the following was copied from the DXCC rules. 2. Geographic Separation Entity b) Island Areas (Separation by Water): ii) The island is separated from its Parent by 350 kilometers or more, and from any other island attached to that Parent in the same or a different island group by 800 kilometers or more. I see no instructions on the method of measurement to be employed in determining the distance between the islands or island group. If the greater circle method was used in determining the correct distance between Saba and Bonaire, then the distance is 801 KM. This is clearly a case of nit-picking. Also if one employs the scientific significant figures rules, 799.609 will round to 800 anyway. If I am wrong, please correct me… I am used to it. . My two cents worth. 73, WY7FD, Dwayne Allen Vice-Director ARRL Rocky Mountain Division