[arrl-odv:28349] FAA & Tower Markings Web page and story
Rick: At Howard’s direction, and working with input from Fred and Stoc Stone at the FCC, I added a web page on this issue which opened earlier this morning at: http://www.arrl.org/faa-tower-regulation-issues Rick Lindquist is finishing a story for the Web crawl which should go live later today. Many thanks to Fred’s slides, which clearly lay out the exclusions. Doesn’t mean that some towers may not have to be registered in the database, but in total this has only a small impact on the amateur community. The story in the FAA didn’t include the details of the exclusions, which seems to have led to the “sky is falling in” posts and threads as people didn’t seek out the full facts or read the actual Congressional mandate. 73 Dan Henderson, N1ND Assistant Secretary – American Radio Relay League, Inc. Regulatory Information Manager ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio ® 860-594-0236 dhenderson@arrl.org<mailto:dhenderson@arrl.org> From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Rick Roderick via arrl-odv Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 12:19 PM To: Ryan, Jeff, K0RM (Dir, RM) <k0rm@comcast.net> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:28348] Re: FAA & Tower Markings Jeff, I recall the FAA/METs/painted tower issues, etc., but what surprised me (and maybe I just missed it last year) was the mention in the link below of the requirement that any tower 50-200 ft now has to be marked. Our web article mentions towers in rural or agri areas less than 200 ft but the link below to the article dated July 8, 2019, didn’t say that, it said all towers. I read Fred’s info in ODV:28289 which was helpful but still raises questions to me how to answer a member’s question about a 70 ft tower. I can’t wait to use the word “curtilage.” (Hi) Excuse typos. On the road.... 73 Rick - K5UR Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2019, at 12:28 PM, Jeff Ryan <k0rm@comcast.net<mailto:k0rm@comcast.net>> wrote: Ria: The FAA Reauthorization Act was signed into law last fall. Nothing has changed. This act called for the FAA’s database to be ready a year after the law was enacted and we are approaching that date. This is the ‘current news’; the fact that towers which meet the criteria of last year’s law (METs) need to be entered into the database. You can certainly point to the story the League published last October after the law was passed. Last I heard, HQ was working on an update but I don’t have a timeline for if/when that might be made public. I am not an attorney, but my interpretation of everything I’ve read on the subject leads me to believe we should not be too concerned. 73, Jeff, K0RM From: rjairam@gmail.com<mailto:rjairam@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:06 AM To: Jeff Ryan<mailto:k0rm@comcast.net> Cc: arrl-odv<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:28333] Re: FAA & Tower Markings Is this info current? I am getting asked lots of questions now as it is spreading like wildfire. I would like to point to something from ARRL that says that we should not be too concerned, or that we should be concerned. My division newsletter goes out this evening. But I want to make sure the info is current and accurate. I can delay a day if need be. 73 Ria, N2RJ On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 16:03, Jeff Ryan <k0rm@comcast.net<mailto:k0rm@comcast.net>> wrote:
http://www.arrl.org/news/view/faa-reauthorization-act-of-2018-overhauls-mark...
-----Original Message----- From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of rjairam@gmail.com<mailto:rjairam@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:46 PM To: Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org<mailto:wb2itx@arrl.org>> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>> Subject: [arrl-odv:28332] Re: FAA & Tower Markings
Looks like this article is making the rounds on social media now, complete with the mass panic. Hopefully our article can help quell some of the anxiety.
Ria N2RJ
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 18:13, Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org<mailto:wb2itx@arrl.org>> wrote:
I've asked Dan to work with Rick Lindquist to get the straight info out to the members ASAP.
On 07/09/2019 12:44 PM, Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv wrote:
Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts.
How did we miss this?
Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members.
73 Rick - K5UR
-----Original Message----- From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com<mailto:N5AUS@n5aus.com>> To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org<mailto:arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>> Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings
Heads UP
See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower...
Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database.
We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance.
_______________________________________
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HI Dan, Looks like the article references a broken link: On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 12:43, Henderson, Dan N1ND <dhenderson@arrl.org> wrote:
Rick:
At Howard’s direction, and working with input from Fred and Stoc Stone at the FCC, I added a web page on this issue which opened earlier this morning at:
http://www.arrl.org/faa-tower-regulation-issues
Rick Lindquist is finishing a story for the Web crawl which should go live later today.
Many thanks to Fred’s slides, which clearly lay out the exclusions. Doesn’t mean that some towers may not have to be registered in the database, but in total this has only a small impact on the amateur community. The story in the FAA didn’t include the details of the exclusions, which seems to have led to the “sky is falling in” posts and threads as people didn’t seek out the full facts or read the actual Congressional mandate.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
Assistant Secretary – American Radio Relay League, Inc.
Regulatory Information Manager
ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio ®
860-594-0236
dhenderson@arrl.org
From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Rick Roderick via arrl-odv Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 12:19 PM To: Ryan, Jeff, K0RM (Dir, RM) <k0rm@comcast.net> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:28348] Re: FAA & Tower Markings
Jeff, I recall the FAA/METs/painted tower issues, etc., but what surprised me (and maybe I just missed it last year) was the mention in the link below of the requirement that any tower 50-200 ft now has to be marked. Our web article mentions towers in rural or agri areas less than 200 ft but the link below to the article dated July 8, 2019, didn’t say that, it said all towers.
I read Fred’s info in ODV:28289 which was helpful but still raises questions to me how to answer a member’s question about a 70 ft tower. I can’t wait to use the word “curtilage.” (Hi)
Excuse typos. On the road....
73
Rick - K5UR
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 11, 2019, at 12:28 PM, Jeff Ryan <k0rm@comcast.net> wrote:
Ria:
The FAA Reauthorization Act was signed into law last fall. Nothing has changed. This act called for the FAA’s database to be ready a year after the law was enacted and we are approaching that date. This is the ‘current news’; the fact that towers which meet the criteria of last year’s law (METs) need to be entered into the database.
You can certainly point to the story the League published last October after the law was passed. Last I heard, HQ was working on an update but I don’t have a timeline for if/when that might be made public.
I am not an attorney, but my interpretation of everything I’ve read on the subject leads me to believe we should not be too concerned.
73,
Jeff, K0RM
From: rjairam@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:06 AM To: Jeff Ryan Cc: arrl-odv Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:28333] Re: FAA & Tower Markings
Is this info current? I am getting asked lots of questions now as it
is spreading like wildfire. I would like to point to something from
ARRL that says that we should not be too concerned, or that we should
be concerned. My division newsletter goes out this evening. But I want
to make sure the info is current and accurate. I can delay a day if
need be.
73
Ria, N2RJ
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 16:03, Jeff Ryan <k0rm@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.arrl.org/news/view/faa-reauthorization-act-of-2018-overhauls-mark...
-----Original Message-----
From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of rjairam@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:46 PM
To: Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org>
Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>
Subject: [arrl-odv:28332] Re: FAA & Tower Markings
Looks like this article is making the rounds on social media now, complete with the mass panic. Hopefully our article can help quell some of the anxiety.
Ria
N2RJ
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 18:13, Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org> wrote:
I've asked Dan to work with Rick Lindquist to get the straight info out to the members ASAP.
On 07/09/2019 12:44 PM, Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv wrote:
Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts.
How did we miss this?
Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members.
73
Rick - K5UR
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From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com>
To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>
Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am
Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings
Heads UP
See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower...
Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database.
We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance.
_______________________________________
John Robert Stratton
N5AUS
Director
West Gulf Division
Office: 512-445-6262
Cell: 512-426-2028
P.O. Box 2232
Austin, Texas 78768-2232
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Forgot the link: http://www.arrl.org/members-only/PageEdit/42987 On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 at 11:35, rjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com> wrote:
HI Dan,
Looks like the article references a broken link:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 12:43, Henderson, Dan N1ND <dhenderson@arrl.org> wrote:
Rick:
At Howard’s direction, and working with input from Fred and Stoc Stone at the FCC, I added a web page on this issue which opened earlier this morning at:
http://www.arrl.org/faa-tower-regulation-issues
Rick Lindquist is finishing a story for the Web crawl which should go live later today.
Many thanks to Fred’s slides, which clearly lay out the exclusions. Doesn’t mean that some towers may not have to be registered in the database, but in total this has only a small impact on the amateur community. The story in the FAA didn’t include the details of the exclusions, which seems to have led to the “sky is falling in” posts and threads as people didn’t seek out the full facts or read the actual Congressional mandate.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
Assistant Secretary – American Radio Relay League, Inc.
Regulatory Information Manager
ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio ®
860-594-0236
dhenderson@arrl.org
From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Rick Roderick via arrl-odv Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 12:19 PM To: Ryan, Jeff, K0RM (Dir, RM) <k0rm@comcast.net> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:28348] Re: FAA & Tower Markings
Jeff, I recall the FAA/METs/painted tower issues, etc., but what surprised me (and maybe I just missed it last year) was the mention in the link below of the requirement that any tower 50-200 ft now has to be marked. Our web article mentions towers in rural or agri areas less than 200 ft but the link below to the article dated July 8, 2019, didn’t say that, it said all towers.
I read Fred’s info in ODV:28289 which was helpful but still raises questions to me how to answer a member’s question about a 70 ft tower. I can’t wait to use the word “curtilage.” (Hi)
Excuse typos. On the road....
73
Rick - K5UR
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 11, 2019, at 12:28 PM, Jeff Ryan <k0rm@comcast.net> wrote:
Ria:
The FAA Reauthorization Act was signed into law last fall. Nothing has changed. This act called for the FAA’s database to be ready a year after the law was enacted and we are approaching that date. This is the ‘current news’; the fact that towers which meet the criteria of last year’s law (METs) need to be entered into the database.
You can certainly point to the story the League published last October after the law was passed. Last I heard, HQ was working on an update but I don’t have a timeline for if/when that might be made public.
I am not an attorney, but my interpretation of everything I’ve read on the subject leads me to believe we should not be too concerned.
73,
Jeff, K0RM
From: rjairam@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:06 AM To: Jeff Ryan Cc: arrl-odv Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:28333] Re: FAA & Tower Markings
Is this info current? I am getting asked lots of questions now as it
is spreading like wildfire. I would like to point to something from
ARRL that says that we should not be too concerned, or that we should
be concerned. My division newsletter goes out this evening. But I want
to make sure the info is current and accurate. I can delay a day if
need be.
73
Ria, N2RJ
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 16:03, Jeff Ryan <k0rm@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.arrl.org/news/view/faa-reauthorization-act-of-2018-overhauls-mark...
-----Original Message-----
From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of rjairam@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:46 PM
To: Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org>
Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>
Subject: [arrl-odv:28332] Re: FAA & Tower Markings
Looks like this article is making the rounds on social media now, complete with the mass panic. Hopefully our article can help quell some of the anxiety.
Ria
N2RJ
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 18:13, Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org> wrote:
I've asked Dan to work with Rick Lindquist to get the straight info out to the members ASAP.
On 07/09/2019 12:44 PM, Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv wrote:
Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts.
How did we miss this?
Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members.
73
Rick - K5UR
-----Original Message-----
From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com>
To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>
Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am
Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings
Heads UP
See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower...
Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database.
We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance.
_______________________________________
John Robert Stratton
N5AUS
Director
West Gulf Division
Office: 512-445-6262
Cell: 512-426-2028
P.O. Box 2232
Austin, Texas 78768-2232
_______________________________________
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Hello Ria, Dan and Rick; I have spent some time looking over the FAA Advisory CircularAC70/7460-1L and it appears if the structure is covered under theAct then it must be marked *OR* registered. The League's web article is not a complete treatise for some extreme stations. In the Central Division stations such as W0AIH, K9CT, W9RE, just to name a few, might require registration. I have been asked by some of the owners of larger station in rural areas for a better description of the steps necessary to determine if a larger installation is "covered" by the act and how to insure compliance in the "gray" locations. For instance there is aneed to have more information on the method that will be expected on how to register should that be necessary. Friday's web-press releaseis fine for 99% of amateurs but misses the mark for a lot of larger stations whose towers arguably cannot be described as being within a curtiledgeof a farm, and whose location is in a rural agricultural area. ...and I never thought that there would be an advantage to have my farmsurrounded by the town.... 73, Kermit W9XA On Friday, July 12, 2019, 11:43:31 AM CDT, Henderson, Dan N1ND <dhenderson@arrl.org> wrote: Rick: At Howard’s direction, and working with input from Fred and Stoc Stone at the FCC, I added a web page on this issue which opened earlier this morning at: http://www.arrl.org/faa-tower-regulation-issues Rick Lindquist is finishing a story for the Web crawl which should go live later today. Many thanks to Fred’s slides, which clearly lay out the exclusions. Doesn’t mean that some towers may not have to be registered in the database, but in total this has only a small impact on the amateur community. The story in the FAA didn’t include the details of the exclusions, which seems to have led to the “sky is falling in” posts and threads as people didn’t seek out the full facts or read the actual Congressional mandate. 73 Dan Henderson, N1ND Assistant Secretary – American Radio Relay League, Inc. Regulatory Information Manager ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio ® 860-594-0236 dhenderson@arrl.org From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Rick Roderick via arrl-odv Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 12:19 PM To: Ryan, Jeff, K0RM (Dir, RM) <k0rm@comcast.net> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:28348] Re: FAA & Tower Markings Jeff, I recall the FAA/METs/painted tower issues, etc., but what surprised me (and maybe I just missed it last year) was the mention in the link below of the requirement that any tower 50-200 ft now has to be marked. Our web article mentions towers in rural or agri areas less than 200 ft but the link below to the article dated July 8, 2019, didn’t say that, it said all towers. I read Fred’s info in ODV:28289 which was helpful but still raises questions to me how to answer a member’s question about a 70 ft tower. I can’t wait to use the word “curtilage.” (Hi) Excuse typos. On the road.... 73 Rick - K5UR Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2019, at 12:28 PM, Jeff Ryan <k0rm@comcast.net> wrote: Ria: The FAA Reauthorization Act was signed into law last fall. Nothing has changed. This act called for the FAA’s database to be ready a year after the law was enacted and we are approaching that date. This is the ‘current news’; the fact that towers which meet the criteria of last year’s law (METs) need to be entered into the database. You can certainly point to the story the League published last October after the law was passed. Last I heard, HQ was working on an update but I don’t have a timeline for if/when that might be made public. I am not an attorney, but my interpretation of everything I’ve read on the subject leads me to believe we should not be too concerned. 73, Jeff, K0RM From: rjairam@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:06 AM To: Jeff Ryan Cc: arrl-odv Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:28333] Re: FAA & Tower Markings Is this info current? I am getting asked lots of questions now as it is spreading like wildfire. I would like to point to something from ARRL that says that we should not be too concerned, or that we should be concerned. My division newsletter goes out this evening. But I want to make sure the info is current and accurate. I can delay a day if need be. 73 Ria, N2RJ On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 16:03, Jeff Ryan <k0rm@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.arrl.org/news/view/faa-reauthorization-act-of-2018-overhauls-mark...
-----Original Message-----
From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Ofrjairam@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:46 PM
To: Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org>
Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>
Subject: [arrl-odv:28332] Re: FAA & Tower Markings
Looks like this article is making the rounds on social media now, complete with the mass panic. Hopefully our article can help quell some of the anxiety.
Ria
N2RJ
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 18:13, Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org> wrote:
I've asked Dan to work with Rick Lindquist to get the straight info out to the members ASAP.
On 07/09/2019 12:44 PM, Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv wrote:
Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts.
How did we miss this?
Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members.
73
Rick - K5UR
-----Original Message-----
From: John Robert Stratton <N5AUS@n5aus.com>
To: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>
Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am
Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings
Heads UP
See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower...
Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database.
We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance.
_______________________________________
John Robert Stratton
N5AUS
Director
West Gulf Division
Office: 512-445-6262
Cell: 512-426-2028
P.O. Box 2232
Austin, Texas 78768-2232
_______________________________________
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Chief Executive Officer
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Telephone: +1 860-594-0404
email: hmichel@arrl.org
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On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:08 PM, Kermit Carlson via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote:
… if the structure is covered under the Act then it must be marked *OR* registered...In the Central Division stations such as W0AIH, K9CT, W9RE, just to name a few, might require registration.
This is probably the only time in my life my station will be listed along with the likes of those guys. Bud, W2RU
Even so, registration isn't that big of a deal. You can submit the FAA study request online. I did it for my towers as I am 2 miles from KFWN airport. Within about a week they gave me a letter that said I didn't need to register. I may do it again just in case. Ria N2RJ On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 at 20:08, Kermit Carlson via arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> wrote:
Hello Ria, Dan and Rick;
I have spent some time looking over the FAA Advisory Circular AC70/7460-1L and it appears if the structure is covered under the Act then it must be marked *OR* registered. The League's web article is not a complete treatise for some extreme stations. In the Central Division stations such as W0AIH, K9CT, W9RE, just to name a few, might require registration.
I have been asked by some of the owners of larger station in rural areas for a better description of the steps necessary to determine if a larger installation is "covered" by the act and how to insure compliance in the "gray" locations. For instance there is a need to have more information on the method that will be expected on how to register should that be necessary. Friday's web-press release is fine for 99% of amateurs but misses the mark for a lot of larger stations whose towers arguably cannot be described as being within a curtiledge of a farm, and whose location is in a rural agricultural area.
...and I never thought that there would be an advantage to have my farm surrounded by the town....
73, Kermit W9XA
On Friday, July 12, 2019, 11:43:31 AM CDT, Henderson, Dan N1ND <dhenderson@arrl.org> wrote:
Rick:
At Howard’s direction, and working with input from Fred and Stoc Stone at the FCC, I added a web page on this issue which opened earlier this morning at:
http://www.arrl.org/faa-tower-regulation-issues
Rick Lindquist is finishing a story for the Web crawl which should go live later today.
Many thanks to Fred’s slides, which clearly lay out the exclusions. Doesn’t mean that some towers may not have to be registered in the database, but in total this has only a small impact on the amateur community. The story in the FAA didn’t include the details of the exclusions, which seems to have led to the “sky is falling in” posts and threads as people didn’t seek out the full facts or read the actual Congressional mandate.
73
Dan Henderson, N1ND
Assistant Secretary – American Radio Relay League, Inc.
Regulatory Information Manager
ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio ®
860-594-0236
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From: arrl-odv <arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org> On Behalf Of Rick Roderick via arrl-odv Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 12:19 PM To: Ryan, Jeff, K0RM (Dir, RM) <k0rm@comcast.net> Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org> Subject: [arrl-odv:28348] Re: FAA & Tower Markings
Jeff, I recall the FAA/METs/painted tower issues, etc., but what surprised me (and maybe I just missed it last year) was the mention in the link below of the requirement that any tower 50-200 ft now has to be marked. Our web article mentions towers in rural or agri areas less than 200 ft but the link below to the article dated July 8, 2019, didn’t say that, it said all towers.
I read Fred’s info in ODV:28289 which was helpful but still raises questions to me how to answer a member’s question about a 70 ft tower. I can’t wait to use the word “curtilage.” (Hi)
Excuse typos. On the road....
73
Rick - K5UR
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On Jul 11, 2019, at 12:28 PM, Jeff Ryan <k0rm@comcast.net> wrote:
Ria:
The FAA Reauthorization Act was signed into law last fall. Nothing has changed. This act called for the FAA’s database to be ready a year after the law was enacted and we are approaching that date. This is the ‘current news’; the fact that towers which meet the criteria of last year’s law (METs) need to be entered into the database.
You can certainly point to the story the League published last October after the law was passed. Last I heard, HQ was working on an update but I don’t have a timeline for if/when that might be made public.
I am not an attorney, but my interpretation of everything I’ve read on the subject leads me to believe we should not be too concerned.
73,
Jeff, K0RM
From: rjairam@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:06 AM To: Jeff Ryan Cc: arrl-odv Subject: Re: [arrl-odv:28333] Re: FAA & Tower Markings
Is this info current? I am getting asked lots of questions now as it
is spreading like wildfire. I would like to point to something from
ARRL that says that we should not be too concerned, or that we should
be concerned. My division newsletter goes out this evening. But I want
to make sure the info is current and accurate. I can delay a day if
need be.
73
Ria, N2RJ
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 16:03, Jeff Ryan <k0rm@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.arrl.org/news/view/faa-reauthorization-act-of-2018-overhauls-mark...
-----Original Message-----
From: arrl-odv [mailto:arrl-odv-bounces@reflector.arrl.org] On Behalf Of rjairam@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 1:46 PM
To: Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org>
Cc: arrl-odv <arrl-odv@reflector.arrl.org>
Subject: [arrl-odv:28332] Re: FAA & Tower Markings
Looks like this article is making the rounds on social media now, complete with the mass panic. Hopefully our article can help quell some of the anxiety.
Ria
N2RJ
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 18:13, Michel, Howard, WB2ITX (CEO) <wb2itx@arrl.org> wrote:
I've asked Dan to work with Rick Lindquist to get the straight info out to the members ASAP.
On 07/09/2019 12:44 PM, Roderick, Rick, K5UR via arrl-odv wrote:
Howard, we need a game plan on this pronto. When our members hear about this they will go nuts.
How did we miss this?
Fred, I only glanced at your email as I'm buried this morning, but I take it your interpretation is that it is not that big of a problem. Nonetheless, we need to communicate quickly to our members.
73
Rick - K5UR
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Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 10:00 am
Subject: [arrl-odv:28284] FAA & Tower Markings
Heads UP
See: https://generalaviationnews.com/2019/07/08/new-faa-regulations-require-tower...
Note that communications towers have the option of being "logged" into the FAA database.
We need to confirm the FAA's requirements and provide our members with instructions on the need and method of compliance.
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